EmeraldSlave2
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However, like multiple orgasms, many people can LEARN to have OOBEs consciously, any time they like (if you believe in it to begin with). Interesting, although I am not sure that I would want to be able to do that at random. I do have the ability to "disconnect" from almost any given situation, but not to that extent. I have to wonder, are there significant differences than the kind I experience during subspace and the time I experienced it from trauma. You are correct in that I believe I was very close to death at that moment in time. However, although the experiences are different in some manner...I have found them to always be complimented by a feeling of peace. The one I experienced traumatically also had a quality of intense sadness and a sense of urgency...but it was a place where the pain receded. It's very difficult to say, all "altered states" are so unknown and confusing to begin with, it's not something we are taught about unfortunately. Beyond just waking, dreaming, day dreaming, hypnosis, meditations, drug induction, out of body experiences, body chemical highs and lows, lucid dreaming and MORE...there's just so many possible experiences to have. I know what *I* experience, what *I* believe things are, but that's not much help to you since it's such a personal experience. There are likely some differences between your subspace separation and your traumatic separation, however there are likely significant commonalities as well. Most "subspace" arises from a body's feeling of trauma, endorphin and adrenaline rushes, prolonged "abuse," and a need to cope with difficult stuff. **As a sidenote, I think this is also why subspace gets such an adored status in our culture, sharing traumatic experiences is a deep, intense and swift way to form solid bonds Unfortunately sharing a trumatic experience is a very bad way to judge someones day to day character over the long term. Thus we have the oh too common issue of frenzied newbies forming swift and deep attachments with total dorks leading to disillusionment down the road.** If you feel like you want to explore OOBE's or such more in-depth I certainly encourage it. Aside from the "weirded out" feeling, there really aren't any side effects or problems. (though please don't do it while driving or anything where you need your FULL conscious self available). Oh, and I wouldn't suggest going for another NDE just to get it...there's much calmer and simpler ways to get there. Even more than hypnosis, you are in total control and can direct it and return from it whenever you like. But if it's just something curious in your life, that's fine as well. I know I have OOBE's, always have and likely always will, but they don't really mean terribly much to me other than what they provide in terms of perspective and understanding. Again, it helps that I didn't get freaked out when it first happened, and it's not associated with trauma in my life. To me OOBE's aren't the goal, they are simply one way amongst many to get to the goal.
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