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chellekitty -> RE: Why do leather Masters/Daddies always want multiple partners? & more questions sure to upset!!!! (11/2/2007 9:45:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: HOUDINI1961

ohhhh noooooooo, i'm not dissing any females. my comment was actually a comment on the last few responses, im new to the forum so i don't reply after every comment.

sorry if you were offended.



just wanted to make sure that wasn't the case...the longer explination was for someone else's benifit, not yours [;)] i have found so many amazing men and women in the leather community and have been flabbergasted at people who will not talk to someone by what does or does not hang between their legs...you are doing fine, and we all have our faux pas, even the magnificent me...so....no worries.......

that was sarcasm, btw...the magnificent part...

chelle, the kitty...who is still pouting over not getting to go to Florida last weekend....




Archer -> RE: Why do leather Masters/Daddies always want multiple partners? & more questions sure to upset!!!! (11/2/2007 9:46:04 AM)

Houdini I think the image you have of what a Leather Family is and does may be a bit scewed. Those in your area may have shown you what they think it means but I can tell you not all Leather Families are sexually involved across relationships.
ie not everyone in the family sleeps with everyone else. I know more than a few who the Daddy and boy are sexually monogomous (or very limited in including others) but they are part of a Family to promote brotherhood, support each other in various normal things, and provide for a means to discuss the challanges of being a Daddy and boy with other family members.

Lots of ways Leather Families can be set up and managed that don't involve sexual contact between everyone.

In Leather

Archer




BootBlackBlast -> RE: Why do leather Masters/Daddies always want multiple partners? & more questions sure to upset!!!! (11/2/2007 10:10:34 AM)

Houdini,

You also should keep in mind that sometimes Daddies, Master's, and their friends will tell you what they think you want to hear in regards to their "skills." Leathermen and people in general tend to exagerate or emphasize their play habits and experiences because they assume that that's what you are most interested in.

We tend to forget that there is a large large portion of TPE relationships where daily life is involved and that portion tends to not be discussed in the early phases and discussions regarding TPE. Even in my 24/7 TPE relationships in the past, there is not constant scening. Things like dinner, dishes, bills, car maintenance, jobs, and all kinds of other things get in the way. Although, there are often constant reminders of the relationship in the form of chastity devices, collars, and rituals.

When I have them, my slaves are not doormats, they are involved in the community on whatever level we decide is appropriate for them. However, all of my slaves know that I am active in the leather community and they are expected to be visible with me at events. Whether or not they get used for demos, loaned to others, or are expected or allowed to have sex with others at my whim is all pre-negotiated long before they are collared.




DarkDaddyZ -> RE: Why do leather Masters/Daddies always want multiple partners? & more questions sure to upset!!!! (11/2/2007 1:02:59 PM)

As Archer and BootBlackBlast both mentioned. Is that there is a "myth" that Leather Daddies but gay and het have to have multiple partners and sex and so on.  Life gets in the way in Power exchange and many leather families look for family members that can all grow together in life's rich pageant as well as power exchange.  It takes time to find what you are looking for and with patience and time you'll find it.  It SHOULD be challenging because it is so rewarding.

Good luck,
Z-




chiaThePet -> RE: Why do leather Masters/Daddies always want multiple partners? & more questions sure to upset!!!!!! (11/2/2007 2:09:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HOUDINI1961


Why do the real ones into the scene always want sex parties, multiple partners, use the boy in demos, suck his friends off, etc. etc.




Names?  Addresses?  Phone Numbers? 

And the best times to reach them would be appreciated.

chia* (the pet)




Prinsexx -> RE: Why do leather Masters/Daddies always want multiple partners? & more questions sure to upset!!!! (11/2/2007 2:14:51 PM)

Hi.
I am opposite in only two factors; female and HIV- (there for the grace of god and three monthly check-ups go  I).
I find it difficult to find a Dom who wanat true poly like I do instead of wanting the world and his wife to fuck me, parade me and pimp off me.
I have views on this but I am not airing them publicly as I might be bullied by possters and or shut down by moderation.
On the plus side though at least its YOU they are wanting to use like a freak show and not some other dude.







HOUDINI1961 -> RE: Why do leather Masters/Daddies always want multiple partners? & more questions sure to upset!!!! (11/2/2007 2:17:44 PM)

oh yes, so sorry. it has nothing to do with where they live. i know wealthy people who are ultra-trashy! hey, my grandmother lives in a trailer of sorts, not in a park but she i would definitely not call trashy.

i don't think i referred to money in my post, i was more looking at the rounded-out individual. i actually don't care for materialistic people, i own no fancy jewelry, etc. but not sure if my leather sleepsack, armbinders, canvas sack, hoods, 14 pairs of cuffs, fist mitts, etc. qualify me as materialistic. To someone like me, they are necessities like clothes.

Hey, i dated that vanilla guy who was a Buddhist and one of the nicest people i ever met. he was also HIV+ and definitely not wealthy. And if he had been kinky, i think i would have found what i was looking for.

i'm sure many would think i was a slut or diseased or something being HIV. i've had some MASTERS diss me because of that. With HIV, one never knows when one will or may get sick.

so no it's not their bank account, it's their ability to make me a better person than i am, to train me, get into my head and own me. now that i think of it, more than a few MASTERS after a conversation or two wanted a detailed list of my belongings to see what they wanted to keep or sell. one even sent me a Power of Attorney form via email after one conversation!

i have to admit, having a MASTER control everything including my money and accounts, etc. is very exciting to me, the more control they can take the better.

so again, sorry if i offended any nice, decent people who live in trailer parks, it was not my intention.




DarkDaddyZ -> RE: Why do leather Masters/Daddies always want multiple partners? & more questions sure to upset!!!! (11/2/2007 2:23:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

Hi.
I am opposite in only two factors; female and HIV- (there for the grace of god and three monthly check-ups go  I).
I find it difficult to find a Dom who wanat true poly like I do instead of wanting the world and his wife to fuck me, parade me and pimp off me.
I have views on this but I am not airing them publicly as I might be bullied by possters and or shut down by moderation.
On the plus side though at least its YOU they are wanting to use like a freak show and not some other dude.


Sounds like a good thread for me! Go for it!




HOUDINI1961 -> RE: Why do leather Masters/Daddies always want multiple partners? & more questions sure to upset!!!! (11/2/2007 2:37:15 PM)

thanks DarkDaddyZ, i really liked your line:
"It SHOULD be challenging because it is so rewarding. "
gee's i can't wait to see and feel the rewards!(that is, if i'm not hooded and wearing fistmitts! haha)




MistressPurpleFL -> RE: Why do leather Masters/Daddies always want multiple partners? & more questions sure to upset!!!!!! (11/2/2007 2:38:01 PM)

Hmmm hello??? The guy was asking for advice not sarcasm... Just a thought,
 
*******
Also to the OP.  A lot of other people are going through what you are dealing with now.. There is NO perfect person but the perfect one for you will show himself it just may take a long time for you to find him or for him to find you.  Sometimes if we just slow down, breathe and be ourselves and stop looking he or she may find us.
 
It can be a rather frustrating and tedious task to find a real person with some real experience that is REALLY available and interested in a one on one relationship.  I wish you the best in your search ALSO you should be very specific in what you are searching for and do not settle for anything less on the things that are really important to you.  Compromise is a good thing but do not settle less than you really want.
 
Smiles,
MP




HOUDINI1961 -> RE: Why do leather Masters/Daddies always want multiple partners? & more questions sure to upset!!!! (11/2/2007 2:45:38 PM)

thanks for your words of encouragement MISTRESSPURPLEFL. i do feel less hopeless after reading some of these posts!




YourhandMyAss -> RE: Why do leather Masters/Daddies always want multiple partners? & more questions sure to upset!!!!!! (11/2/2007 2:50:35 PM)

My daddy lives in a trailer park/ rv park, and it's a really nice one, with tree's all over fruit tree's too, and a really nice community room with a 50 inch tv. Not all trailer parks are icky, and for two he drove an old beat up toyota, 1983 that just finally gave out in september after being owned by his step father, and then daddy. He don't have a shitty job however, but becareful of painting others who may live in similar situations Ie trailer, and a crappy car with a bad brush.

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ORIGINAL: HOUDINI1961
If i meet one more "real" leather guy who lives in a trailer park, drives a shitty car, has a drug addiction or alcohol problem and a crappy job, i think i will scream! why does this kink world attract those lower on the totem pole.





ameha21 -> RE: Why do leather Masters/Daddies always want multiple partners? & more questions sure to upset!!!! (11/2/2007 3:09:46 PM)

It's not about being being gay/straight, or master/dom or being a daddy...its about control....some just find it challenging and a turn on to have multiple slaves (male or female). i wish to have muptiple slavegirls. i crave the challenge. plus i wouldn't mind watching them play with eachother either. 




DarkDaddyZ -> RE: Why do leather Masters/Daddies always want multiple partners? & more questions sure to upset!!!!!! (11/2/2007 4:02:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

My daddy lives in a trailer park/ rv park, and it's a really nice one, with tree's all over fruit tree's too, and a really nice community room with a 50 inch tv. Not all trailer parks are icky, and for two he drove an old beat up toyota, 1983 that just finally gave out in september after being owned by his step father, and then daddy. He don't have a shitty job however, but becareful of painting others who may live in similar situations Ie trailer, and a crappy car with a bad brush.

Off topic: I've always wanted to host a leather retreat about taboos. Race play as well as trailer parks in a trailer park somewhere.. Oh the possiblities.

Back to your schedule programing!





Wickad -> RE: Why do leather Masters/Daddies always want multiple partners? & more questions sure to upset!!!! (11/2/2007 10:34:38 PM)

(fast reply)

A bit on Leather Families....

I agree with many of the posters that being part of a Leather Family does not mean that it's a massive orgy when everyone gets together.  I am part of a Pansexual Leather Family based out of AB, CA and most of our members are pairings of one form or another.  Most of us live in monogomous relationships though there are a few who live in alternative couplings. 

Our family is about similiar values and goals.  We are here to support and help each other learn and grow.  These are some of the best people I know and I am proud to call them my brothers and sisters in Leather.

Wickad




kitttty -> RE: Why do leather Masters/Daddies always want multiple partners? & more questions sure to upset!!!! (11/3/2007 9:41:35 AM)

maybe you should move somewhere with a more affluent demographic. you wont get trailer trash if you dont live where trailor trash do.




LATEXBABY64 -> RE: Why do leather Masters/Daddies always want multiple partners? & more questions sure to upset!!!! (11/3/2007 9:46:55 AM)

it is power trip cause I can thing.   But does not make them a better Dom domme or what ever. have to watch the label thingy or the fashion Nazis will get ne for posting about labels rofl




HOUDINI1961 -> RE: Why do leather Masters/Daddies always want multiple partners? & more questions sure to upset!!!! (11/3/2007 10:31:02 AM)

thanks, why didn't i think of that, i'll take a drive up to PALM BEACH this afternoon!?!




kitttty -> RE: Why do leather Masters/Daddies always want multiple partners? & more questions sure to upset!!!! (11/3/2007 11:15:58 AM)

Palm Beach- I encourage it!

So, I really liked your profile. I thought it was intelligent and to the point. Maybe your image is a problem because from your videos you would seem like the type of guy that would want a rugged Dom- the type of guy that lives in a trailor park in the backwoods and has a lot of guns. It's not a bad thing- it has it's appeal, even to me.

I mean, I hope you don't walk around trying to pick up Doms wearing that camoflauge wife beater. Maybe you should invest in a really chic dress shirt and some nice slacks. And I would advise you to make sure your fo hawk is really nicely gelled and arranged in a cool way- a fuzzy fo hawk seems like a good way of alienating classy Doms because it looks like something a guy from a biker gang would have and so they might assume that you only want Doms that are the biker gang type.

So, did you ever see opposite of sex? And you know Christina Ricci's gay uncle (is he a professor)? In the movie he is just protrayed as the responsible mature guy, but personally I think a guy like that could be a great dom for another guy. He would be into a meaninful monogamous relationship, he would push you to improve your life and keep things together. If you wanted a guy like that, a good step would be to read some good style magazines for guys to make sure that you really have the right image.

I think it would be hot to have a sub with really pumped up biceps who gives the public appearance of being a cultured type of guy. I mean, if I were a classy gay dom that is. I'm a chick so I could be totally wrong about this.




PairOfDimes -> RE: Why do leather Masters/Daddies always want multiple partners? & more questions sure to upset!!!! (11/3/2007 12:15:44 PM)

No, some people don't try for monogamy. I think that's far better than trying for monogamy and doing it badly.

Also, different people have different levels of social/private needs. It's good that you know that you want your relationship to be prior to social life. But that's somethign that will limit your pool (and that's not necessarily a bad thing!)

Sure, there are a number of people in kink and leather communities who aren't very high class or well-educated. I enjoy spending time with some of them despite that; for others, it's too great of a barrier, so we maintain a nodding acquaintance.

I see that you want to cede authority to a person who you believe is better at managing things than you. This seems reasonable to me--although I realize others don't do it quite that way. The trouble with that, as you have identified, is that sometimes it is hard to find people who are clearly better than you. Assuming that you are squarely average within the men's kink community, half the guys you meet will be less competent than you, and a number of them will be fairly even with you.

So, you want someone who is male, monogamous, gay, prefers private time with his lover to social time, is 'better' than you in some relatively obvious way, is physically fit, is skilled at bondage, is willing to accept authority over another person, and is attracted to you. These are all perfectly fine things to want. Reasonably, they limit your search quite a bit. I've often said that I've given up trying to pick people up in non-kink, non-queer spaces because although I see plenty of attractive people, the odds are horrid that a given person will be okay with my being poly and partnered, kinky, kinky in the precise ways I am kinky, interested in a relatively casual relationship, attracted to women in general, articulate and intelligent, and finally, attracted to me. Each of my criteria, as with your criteria, limits the search in significant ways. (And let's not think about what I might be doing if I was looking for another life partner--then we would have to have compatible ideas about urban/suburban/rural living, compatible diets, compatible financial strategies, and so on.) This isn't a bad thing to have all these limits, but it does mean that it's a little harder for us to find playmates or mates than people with fewer restrictions, and that we have to look harder and keep looking, and try to find ways to avoid becoming resentful in the process.




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