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RE: Interested in hypnosis with BDSM, ideas? - 11/6/2007 6:46:26 PM

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lol maybe i have something wrong with me but that kinda sounds like a pretty name to give to a child :P

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RE: Interested in hypnosis with BDSM, ideas? - 11/6/2007 7:09:06 PM

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all that stuff you listed in the OP can be done without hypnosis, it just takes conditioned response. Hypnosis doesn't automatically instill triggers, and it's effectiveness is quite variable (largely based on the willingness of the subject). Maybe for some subjects, they might feel less inhibited to cooperate as they can view the hypnosis as something done to them (and they're not responsible for the results), but the lifestyle choices we're talking about, I'd think such a subject would be willing to explore these areas under normal conscious conditions and the experience for both would be more interactive.

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RE: Interested in hypnosis with BDSM, ideas? - 11/6/2007 7:36:31 PM

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How about:

turn off one or more of the subs senses in whole or in part. ex: imagine not being able to feel anything on your external skin, but still being able to feel penetration.
switch the feelings of pleasure and pain. ex: orgasm causes pain while a spanking gives great pleasure.
temporarily alter her personality to that of a literal sex slave.
remove or increase her sense of balance.
any touch from your right hand causes pain, any touch from your left hand causes pleasure.
vaginal penetration inflicts as much pain as it gives pleasure.

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RE: Interested in hypnosis with BDSM, ideas? - 11/6/2007 10:37:28 PM

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lol you must like to cause pain just as much as pleasure. luckly for me my Master doens't:P
i get overly hyper synsitive and especially after sex. so one of the things my Master has done is make it feel like my pussy was on a table. i could touch myself, see myself, but not "feel" myself. but i just had to becarful with what i did to the table cause i would deffo feel that

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RE: Interested in hypnosis with BDSM, ideas? - 11/7/2007 6:59:33 PM

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I don't get called "evil fucker" for nothing.

Another interesting toy: every time she touches something with her finger tips the sensation goes straight to her clit. Can anyone say pinching, pin pricks, or paper cuts?

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RE: Interested in hypnosis with BDSM, ideas? - 11/8/2007 1:50:05 AM

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ORIGINAL: Vanatru

all that stuff you listed in the OP can be done without hypnosis, it just takes conditioned response. Hypnosis doesn't automatically instill triggers, and it's effectiveness is quite variable (largely based on the willingness of the subject). Maybe for some subjects, they might feel less inhibited to cooperate as they can view the hypnosis as something done to them (and they're not responsible for the results), but the lifestyle choices we're talking about, I'd think such a subject would be willing to explore these areas under normal conscious conditions and the experience for both would be more interactive.

Technically you are right, the starting examples I gave can be done without intentional hypnosis.

Let me ask you something though, look into hypnosis in the future and consider this: how much of your conditioning isn't a form of (unintentional) hypnosis?

Example: orgasming on command. One of my subs was trained to orgasm on command for one dom before meeting me. When she told me how it worked (reach sexual extacy, and just as she was about to orgasm repeating the command over and over just before and as she orgasmed, simple concept), I told her what I'm about to tell you. Sexual extacy brings about a light trance, everyone goes into light trances on their own throughout the day, sexual extacy is something that'll do it everytime. By a technical standpoint, you are giving suggestions to someone while they're in trance, and calling it "conditioning."
So therefore, with a little knowledge on hypnosis, couldn't "conditioning" be viewed as a form of hypnosis?

Oh, and believe me, someone during hypnosis is just as willing, active, and interactive as the next person, if not moreso.

Beyond that, it's just a difference in preferences and fetishes/kinks (which is the right word here, anyway?)

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RE: Interested in hypnosis with BDSM, ideas? - 11/10/2007 7:55:18 AM

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Yes you're right, Hypno. Daydreaming, highway hypnosis, zoning out watching TV, dosing during religious services and many other things can be considered somewhat a trance state. Some explorers have even reported euphoric feelings or sensations while traveling during white-out conditions. Hell, even take a look at kids in a rock concert! :)

Well, here's that blog I was talking about. It's interesting reading, and fun too. :)

http://bdsmhypnosis.blogspot.com/

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RE: Interested in hypnosis with BDSM, ideas? - 12/10/2007 4:19:57 PM

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Orgasm on trigger is possible, I've been taught to cum on command in and out of hypnosis and it can be alot of fun! Using hypnosis to improve and enhance sexual activities is not only very enjoyable but can enhance the bond between you and your subject. However, be very careful how you use it, while hypnosis is not mind control in and of itself, it can be used to thoroughly control the mind of a subject, I know this from first hand experience and it can cause very detrimental emotional consequences to an otherwise normal healthy person when not used respectfully and properly.

I would like to politely suggest that you never use it for mental bondage or mentally collar someone through hypnosis unless you are already in a very committed physical relationship with the subject, as the subject will truly believe that you are her/his Master even when no longer hypnotized which can create all kinds of very negative emotional disturbances in the mind of the subject once back in the real world.

When its just sexual...you can have all kinds of fun! Some suggestions that I thoroughly enjoyed was word associations, when you say a particular word the subject will actually feel a response such as using the word "cock" and the subject actually feeling that she has one sliding into her. Another is using a word to create a tickle effect this one is really amusing and very enjoyable for the subject! Whatever the mind believes the subjects body will truly feel and it can be a wonderful feeling!

Have fun, but please be very careful how you use hypnosis.

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RE: Interested in hypnosis with BDSM, ideas? - 12/11/2007 12:04:48 PM

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Because hypnosis is something I enjoy in and of itself, I don't do it because I can't otherwise, but because a part of my fantasies include the use of hypnosis, it's a part of my kink, my fetish. Also, hypnosis is a tool, it's not taking control, and any sub of mine knows this before we continue on.

You are not the first person to ask me this, and I ask 2 things:
1.) Think that, perhaps, just maybe, I do it because I enjoy hypnosis, and not that I *need* to use it. If I needed to use it, why would I ask permission? I'd never get a yes if I *needed* to use hypnosis.
2.) In my first post, I said to stick to the topic, and any questions about me or about hypnosis beyond the topic of useful suggestions can be messaged to me or asked in my chatroom. I still ask that people do that.

This is the LAST time I'm putting this thread off-topic to answer a personal question, I will message privately if I get another, but I request you keep it to private conversation or my chatroom, as to keep this thread ON-TOPIC. Thank you.

For you to say that you do not control, is incorrect. . Though the subject is assured by suggestion that they are always in control,..As the hypnotist you lead by control of the wording to the subject,ergo you the hypnotist is in control...

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RE: Interested in hypnosis with BDSM, ideas? - 12/11/2007 12:11:35 PM

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Orgasm on trigger is possible, I've been taught to cum on command in and out of hypnosis and it can be alot of fun! Using hypnosis to improve and enhance sexual activities is not only very enjoyable but can enhance the bond between you and your subject. However, be very careful how you use it, while hypnosis is not mind control in and of itself, it can be used to thoroughly control the mind of a subject, I know this from first hand experience and it can cause very detrimental emotional consequences to an otherwise normal healthy person when not used respectfully and properly.

I would like to politely suggest that you never use it for mental bondage or mentally collar someone through hypnosis unless you are already in a very committed physical relationship with the subject, as the subject will truly believe that you are her/his Master even when no longer hypnotized which can create all kinds of very negative emotional disturbances in the mind of the subject once back in the real world.

When its just sexual...you can have all kinds of fun! Some suggestions that I thoroughly enjoyed was word associations, when you say a particular word the subject will actually feel a response such as using the word "cock" and the subject actually feeling that she has one sliding into her. Another is using a word to create a tickle effect this one is really amusing and very enjoyable for the subject! Whatever the mind believes the subjects body will truly feel and it can be a wonderful feeling!

Have fun, but please be very careful how you use hypnosis.

I totally agree......and to take the care factor further, l would also hope that any hypnotist would take out all suggestions at the end of a session.

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RE: Interested in hypnosis with BDSM, ideas? - 3/22/2008 4:23:55 PM

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3 months later... so I stopped checking out the message boards, so sue me.

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ORIGINAL: YourHypnoMaster

Because hypnosis is something I enjoy in and of itself, I don't do it because I can't otherwise, but because a part of my fantasies include the use of hypnosis, it's a part of my kink, my fetish. Also, hypnosis is a tool, it's not taking control, and any sub of mine knows this before we continue on.

You are not the first person to ask me this, and I ask 2 things:
1.) Think that, perhaps, just maybe, I do it because I enjoy hypnosis, and not that I *need* to use it. If I needed to use it, why would I ask permission? I'd never get a yes if I *needed* to use hypnosis.
2.) In my first post, I said to stick to the topic, and any questions about me or about hypnosis beyond the topic of useful suggestions can be messaged to me or asked in my chatroom. I still ask that people do that.

This is the LAST time I'm putting this thread off-topic to answer a personal question, I will message privately if I get another, but I request you keep it to private conversation or my chatroom, as to keep this thread ON-TOPIC. Thank you.

For you to say that you do not control, is incorrect. . Though the subject is assured by suggestion that they are always in control,..As the hypnotist you lead by control of the wording to the subject,ergo you the hypnotist is in control...

Just as much as a dom does in roleplay. You do something the sub is against, you lose the control you had. Like trying to do anal on someone who is completely against doing so, plus or minus the slap to the face (depends on the suggestion used and the level of trust).

They give you control, just as a sub gives a dom control. You don't take control (well, not in the stealing sense, which is usually wrongly associated with hypnosis). You do something to lose the trust of the sub, you lose the control that was given to you as the hypnotist. Sound familiar?

Obviously, you still need to be considerate of how you word suggestions, and how you use hypnosis in general, but another story for another time.

Now that I've gone and revived my own topic with actual information, how about we get back on topic with anyone new to this thread (or whatever), ideas that can be tried with hypnosis.

If you're not a hypnotist, or not familiar with hypnosis much or at all, consider the thought of "If a hypnotist could do anything, what would I want to feel, experience, see, hear, do, or have done?"

I've already used the example of orgasm on command, so you might say "To be able to have an orgasm at any time," or something like that, ya know?

The thread's been dormant long enough, let's see more stuff come about!

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RE: Interested in hypnosis with BDSM, ideas? - 3/22/2008 4:50:32 PM

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Okay i'll play :)

On a practical level, i'd want hynosis to help me work through, dull down, or do away with alot of my fears....this is an issue my Daddy and i work on, and this would be the biggie for me....Maybe then i might learn to drive :) (and in our dynamic, facing fears is a big part of the whole picture)

On a more overtly BDSM level i'd say....maybe with a hypnotic suggestion to make the person feel as if they are completely bound and then go from there with the possibilities.......It isn't actually safe to leave someone bound alone, but this would make it safe............

Make the person feel as if they were in a cage, and yet no cost for the cage or worry about collapsing it to put it under the bed when company comes........

Call your slave/sub from work and give some dirty little post hypnotic suggestion that makes them get dressed all sexy, make your favorite meal, and then kneel in wait with your favorite toys at the ready (or what ever deliciously Stepford Wife/robot idea you may consider)

Make her feel like she's been totally gang banged without the concern of stds, or having to round up a group of men to deliver.

Okay, that's it from me for now.

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RE: Interested in hypnosis with BDSM, ideas? - 3/22/2008 5:07:09 PM

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Mental bondage is my current specific use. I liked the concept just from seeing on CM's checklist, I've used hypnosis in spriitual practice for 15 years.

But I must admit to some surprise on an occasion: a particular sub, as he was very relaxed post-massage AND submissive midway ithrough a scene, after I turned him front-side up for further play and his hands began to wander, I suggested to him that he tuck thumbs under his ass to keep them from dangling and also resist the impulse to wander or grope. Cool, and that session went well, a great time had by all. The next time we played, and he was again face up, I told him to tuck in his thumbs, and 20 minutes later he described himself as unable to move (and hence at my total mercy). And, not only did he describe himself so, but the squirms and wiggles and body winces were not happening on this second occasion! I made it a point, when we were through, to give him explicit permission to move freely as he wished. No holdover triggers for this top.

But...I'm going to test the position the next time we play, and see whether that was a one-off or really rapid-fire hypnotic conditioning. In which case, I'm going to need to be even more conscious of what I do with my voice during a scene...because that's all I ever use when leading hypnotic spiritual sessions.

The many idea-starters above are infinitely interesting...and I could easily see a conditioned sub experiencing an entire scene by telephone...which could really benefit an LTR. The brain, after all, is our biggest sex organ.

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RE: Interested in hypnosis with BDSM, ideas? - 3/22/2008 5:16:24 PM

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i have mailed you.

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RE: Interested in hypnosis with BDSM, ideas? - 3/22/2008 8:37:03 PM

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I would love to be able to just stop thinking during a scene or while having sex. I am always thinking about what is going to happen next, or what I am supposed to be doing. This is probably pretty basic, but it would work for me!!!

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RE: Interested in hypnosis with BDSM, ideas? - 3/30/2008 12:34:21 PM

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Add something to my own topic here. Wish I could remember who told me this story, he had hypnotized his girlfriend so that the next time they had sex, she would feel like she was the male and he was the female, when he put his penis into her vagina, she would feel like she was pushing her penis into his vagina. Yes, I know that physically this makes no sense, but it was experimentation.

He found out that because she had the assumption that men always lasted much shorter time than women in general, she ended up orgasming a lot sooner than usual.

His girlfriend was a minute man, go figure :P

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RE: Interested in hypnosis with BDSM, ideas? - 12/14/2008 11:26:45 PM

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How about this one - helping them to tell the truth. Sometimes subbies don't speak their truths because they are trying to please us. We act on the false info and end up messing things up.

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RE: Interested in hypnosis with BDSM, ideas? - 12/14/2008 11:51:08 PM

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old thread is old...

but I *WILL* say that it would be incredibly humiliating (in a wonderful way) if hypnotized to become aroused at a verbal trigger (such as someone saying the word 'please'). Even moreso if it's just in general... it could work with both males and females (though would 'show' more with males) :D

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RE: Interested in hypnosis with BDSM, ideas? - 12/15/2008 7:08:12 AM

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Thanks for the thread.

What have I fascilitated during play...? (IM, Email, Phone, and in person).

* Masturbation, but the sensations "soak" into her fingers. After mannnnnnnnnnny minutes, have her transfer the clitoral/vaginal pleasure to her facial cheek. After she confirms that it's there, have her consciously forget what she's done. Enjoy her reactions when she brushes her hair from her face, rests her chin in her hand, etc. Just be aware of which is her dominant hand, so that the hand to face contact is natural. (Let's see a D/ do that w/o the sub being in a hypnotic state.)

* While we're together, play "Hide the clit." Transfer sensation to another body part, then deaden sensation to the clitoris. Have her forget the spot to which it was moved.

* Her giving a hand job is exactly duplicated within her vagina. (OK, that one has only been in person).

* The 1-10 arousal and orgasm count. The variation being that it is subconsciously triggered if alone at a certain time of day, say 7pm. So, from 7:00-7:09 she is arousing and climaxing with no apparent stimulation. The climax also lasts a full minute. Repeat at 8pm, but now each number lasts two minutes, same for climax. 8:00-8:18pm. Repeat at 9:00, with each number lasting five minutes, but the count between "9," "on the edge of climaxing," and "10," orgasm(s) lasts ten minutes. However, I limited the climaxes to five minutes. By the third time she was certain I had been playing... but very confused as to how. She slept very well that night.

Btw, in my counting, confirmation that there is arousal doesn't start until "4." "1," pre-sets, "2," activates, "3," is a general feeling of contentment/wellness. "4," is what triggers the path to arousal. Hearing me begin to count does not trigger an awareness of what is to come. This is fun when embedding the numbers into conversation, such as, "One of the things that I appreciate about you, is that you like to explore ideas and experiences, sometimes three things at once... and you do it all for me."

* She feels pleasurable sensations (light to medium petting) while doing the dishes.

* Nipple stimulation sympathetically also goes straight to the clitoris. (For those that like ass-play, the right nipple could stimulate the clitoris, the left nipple could stimulate the ass).

Here are very important suggestions.

1) "Safety first."
A) Post hypnotic suggestions that seem reasonable at the time, can be inconvenient or dangerous if the expected environment is changed. My pet can ignore or drop out of any routine (consciously or subconsciously) if it is simply not safe or proper for it to be fulfilled.
B) If she has any doubt that the suggestions are from me (consciously or subconsciously) she can ignore them until confirmed. I'm paranoid. Online accounts can be hacked. IDs can be faked. Voices imitated. Even positive hallucinations. Any doubt as to source of trance, trigger, or suggestion brings her back to her waking state and unaffected.
C) In effect, any impropriaty constitutes a "safe word" condition, and the suggestions become null.

2) "Real life trumps all." Routines are wonderful, but not slavishly followed in spite of illness, family, job requirements, etc.

3) "The subject is in control, not the hypnotist."
A) It's the truth.
B) It frustrates the wannabes that take a swing at her.
C) Giving up control can only be done if one had control to begin with.
D) None of this gives us the illusion that she is "bullet proof," but it is the best we have been able to come up with, so far.

The ethical HypnoD/ endeavors to enrich their submissive's life, not degrade it. What good is it to own something that is worthless? Shouldn't it also be true in relationships?

I am curious about the responsiveness of male subjects to hypnoplay.

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RE: Interested in hypnosis with BDSM, ideas? - 12/15/2008 9:28:53 AM

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My late husband was a hypnotist and taught me what i know. Sir doesnt' use it, and i primary use it for past life regressions.

This has been a very interesting thread, sorry I don't have any suggestions to offer.
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