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RE: How to punish a masochist ? - 11/5/2007 4:19:51 AM   
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There are good pains and bad pains.  Once you determine which, your path is easy.

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RE: How to punish a masochist ? - 11/5/2007 4:44:13 AM   
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Thank you all that have responded to this thread, the dialog has helped me and I am sure others.

The most effective means of punishment/correction I have used thus far has been a combonation of negative and possitive reenforcement.  My slave likes the Pats and was looking forward to watching the game.  However, she has been having difficulty with asking permission to leave my side - in the store earlier she wandered off to look at something on her own, and then later in the day she went to the bathroom (both times would have been approved if she had only asked.)  So at kick-off I made her go to the kitchen, sit at the table, and write: "I will not forget my Master, I will honor my Master." 115 times (the extra 15 were added on for forgetting to use Sir at the end of a question). 

This took away from something she enjoyed, and added something constructive and corrective.  Though I think next time I will have her do the lines on the hardwood floor - kneeling and hunched over the paper. 

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RE: How to punish a masochist ? - 11/5/2007 5:17:59 AM   
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Master has had times when "punishment" has been an issue as there doesn't seem to be alot in the way of BDSM I don't like,(That He is willing to do) what he has come up with is this:  He took one of His toys ( a red hard rubber tube, its about 3 ft long) out of the play toys. This is now "The Punishment Stick". and Trust me  it works. All He has to do is mention it and I straighten right up.  Just the mindset of knowing the only time that stick is in His hands is when I have done something  not pleasing.  An example: I was very bad at leaving pop cans sitting around. Master told me for every one He found not by my side with me drinking it at the time I would get one stroke of  "the stick" , it took 2 days and 10 strokes and noone will ever see another pop can sitting around Our house again. It has come in handy for other behavior modifications as well.
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RE: How to punish a masochist ? - 11/5/2007 5:28:45 PM   
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I HATE hand-written writing punishments!!!! I went to catholic schools and my mom swears she has the entire bible in my handwriting from 4-6 years of detention (I was a bad girl LOL)  My Sir has only used writing assignments once or twice and I was the perfect angel for WEEKS afterwords! LOL I think out of everything I've read here that was the ONE that made me shudder in loathing!

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RE: How to punish a masochist ? - 11/6/2007 9:15:08 AM   
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hang her from the rafters with chains,, and let her tippy toes touch the cold concrete pavement and leave her there over night,,
some times the best punishment is none at all but the anticipation,,
might also think about getting a cage

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RE: How to punish a masochist ? - 11/6/2007 9:16:26 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Winnowing99

Updates:

Thank you all that have responded to this thread, the dialog has helped me and I am sure others.

The most effective means of punishment/correction I have used thus far has been a combonation of negative and possitive reenforcement.  My slave likes the Pats and was looking forward to watching the game.  However, she has been having difficulty with asking permission to leave my side - in the store earlier she wandered off to look at something on her own, and then later in the day she went to the bathroom (both times would have been approved if she had only asked.)  So at kick-off I made her go to the kitchen, sit at the table, and write: "I will not forget my Master, I will honor my Master." 115 times (the extra 15 were added on for forgetting to use Sir at the end of a question). 

This took away from something she enjoyed, and added something constructive and corrective.  Though I think next time I will have her do the lines on the hardwood floor - kneeling and hunched over the paper. 


good for you,,keep up with it,, and remember ,, corpeal punishment is a reward for her,, and  well give it to her as such ,,,
MM

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RE: How to punish a masochist ? - 11/6/2007 9:21:40 AM   
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You've only been together a short time. How many rules have you given her? Have you explained in detail how you want her to behave, and how to alter that from in private to in public? Does she agree with you about these rules, because if she feels they are pointless then she will not feel the need to follow them.

But zeroing in on the short time statement, I wonder if punishment is required. Myself, I require a learning period where he repeats what he wants out of me, and asks me to do it again until I get it right, and where he understands that training new habits takes a full month of repitition daily. If you're seeing each other once a week, then expecting her to switch suddenly after one statement of a rule from how she ordinarily behaves to what you want is unrealistic.

Work on one thing at a time until she gets it down thoroughly, praise her when she gets it right, and she'll be motivated to keep trying. Punish for a dozen different things after only half explaining it once, and expect her to give up. Stuff like that makes some of us conclude we are either being deliberately set up to fail, or the dom isn't capable of teaching us.

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RE: How to punish a masochist ? - 11/6/2007 11:10:53 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Winnowing99

Updates:

Thank you all that have responded to this thread, the dialog has helped me and I am sure others.

The most effective means of punishment/correction I have used thus far has been a combonation of negative and possitive reenforcement.  My slave likes the Pats and was looking forward to watching the game.  However, she has been having difficulty with asking permission to leave my side - in the store earlier she wandered off to look at something on her own, and then later in the day she went to the bathroom (both times would have been approved if she had only asked.)  So at kick-off I made her go to the kitchen, sit at the table, and write: "I will not forget my Master, I will honor my Master." 115 times (the extra 15 were added on for forgetting to use Sir at the end of a question). 

This took away from something she enjoyed, and added something constructive and corrective.  Though I think next time I will have her do the lines on the hardwood floor - kneeling and hunched over the paper. 



mkae sure you put  ten penciles under her knees as well,, ,,
hehehe
yeah i did my tyime in a catholic high school,,,,
this way she can get a bit of pain,, and who knows she might not enjoy that one,,,
but dont just reseve the pencils for the writting,, might as well introduce it to her while on her knees anywasy,, hehehehe

MM

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RE: How to punish a masochist ? - 11/6/2007 11:25:43 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterMataeo

hang her from the rafters with chains,, and let her tippy toes touch the cold concrete pavement and leave her there over night,,


*wonders how well this would translate to a real life scenario*

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