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Something You/all might want to weigh in on - 11/4/2007 12:22:14 PM   
FaithfulYoungCuk


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I don't want to be like "this is the most important post yada yada" but I was hoping to share my recent doings and beings-done-to ;), basically i've hit some brick walls in my head with all this cuckolding lately.  Lots okay...... more than any one man could ask for.  I'm not here to get into all the gory details, suffice it to say my gf/Master has a growing stable of .....ah, variously racial lovers and RECENT events make that ten times harder and heavier to bear than just knowing she's having sex with some men who intimidate me a lot.  k?

Now.......... biggest problem for me right now is my new job.  She works Sunday-Wednesday 3rd shift and now i will be working Thursday through Saturday 3rd shift.  We each get three days off but ALL of those days are days when the other one is working AND I can't quit for financial reasons until i find a new job.  In all likelihood this is going to last until January. 

One side of me says "i can handle this" and the other side says "I'm gonna F****** die, i'm not going to be able to work and do my job right, i'm going to be tearing myself apart inside, its going to make me not see why i should even try", i.e. maybe i'll go through this long period of suffering for nothing if i end up pissing her off too bad by falling apart at some point.

To be clear, this means that the ONLY time my girlfriend will have for serious sexual activity is those three days off and the ONLY people who will get to experience that with her are these other men.  To be clear, 9 times out of ten the best i will get is a quickie and between now and January it will increasingly weigh on me how much more time she actually spends having sex with them than with me.  I will be the strong minority in her sexual diet.

I guess this is the part I thought a lot of women might want to weigh in on?  Chastity is what i'm kind of ending up with.  Is that good, i dunno.  If it was not FORCED chastity, like no way i can do anything about it at all, it would be a lot easier for me but this is a burden.  Do i bear the burden nobly even though i might end up screwing the whole deal up before the end if i  snap?  how do i handle knowing that the only people who are really free to persue my girlfriend romantically are these other men? 

Yes there is a romantic aspect because she's one of those girls who needs some kind of emotional connection.  Will i live through this and what will i become by the end? 

Is there a bright side to this?  I've got to know. To me right now i just feel alone and scared.  On the one hand i feel like i could do it and embrace it and maybe i'm just trying not to embrace a big part of who i am, you know?

What if it becomes the norm and even if i quit working there she wont want to have sex with me, or what if i have to beg for sex for the rest of my life even though they just kind of grab her and behave like real men?

Some advice, please.

K.
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RE: Something You/all might want to weigh in on - 11/4/2007 12:30:22 PM   
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I don't believe anyone can advise you on this.  It is your choice to stay in the relationship or not.  The one you need to be talking about all of this is her.

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RE: Something You/all might want to weigh in on - 11/4/2007 1:20:38 PM   
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Hi Mistress Dream,

Thank You for writing.  Trust me I'm definately talking to Her about it.  All the time, too much maybe.

She seem to think it will all be fine, like its temporary and i shouldn't worry about it.  Makes sense.  If either of us has clear perspective on the matter it's her, i'm the one who's freaking about it.  Whether i should stay in the relationship or not is definately not a question for me: i'm staying, i dont care if she moves ten guys into the house i'm not going to be parted from her side.

but i'm worried and i feel like i need to build up a group of people i can really talk to about the way i feel because she wont be around during the very worst moments and i can't make my feelings her responsibility.  they're my feelings not hers and she shouldn't be the one to suffer for them.  But i suffer, and that makes me wonder what will happen if i throw a temper tantrum eventually and don't go into work.  if i end up unemployed, now that is something that could be really destructive to our relationship.  and even though the reason i do it is that i want to be with her, it will make it not matter that i'm at home not at work because it would be disrespectful of me.  So i'm stuck working there because without the job i can't expect to have much you know?  without the job thats just one more thing the men have that her sissy doesn't. 

emotionally this will be hard for me because it makes me realize i have some long put-off and procrastinated changes to go through as a sub and i'm afraid to do it.  i have to accept things that i've put off accepting....... this is the fundimental thing for me, where submission becomes reality and whats more, a way of life. 

i hear a lot that i just have to let go, give up the illusion of power, let her do the driving, and i want to but what a sub like me runs into at that point is a speculative fear about "what will happen", what will happen to me, what will i become, what will i be like, what will i do, how will i handle it.  I'm afraid to let go and its been something that's stopped me at the very last point for a very long time now and i've kept putting it off until now circumstance force me to let go even though part of me wants to fight it.

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RE: Something You/all might want to weigh in on - 11/4/2007 1:47:35 PM   
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Welcome to the world of cuckolding.  Not so much fun, is it?   You'll have to decide for yourself what positive things that you are getting from this arrangement, if any, and if the negative things outweigh them or not.  It's your life.  For all our talk of masters and slaves, it's a universe of free people who accept their roles.  You have the power to change yours.

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RE: Something You/all might want to weigh in on - 11/4/2007 1:53:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: FaithfulYoungCuk

I don't want to be like "this is the most important post yada yada" but I was hoping to share my recent doings and beings-done-to ;), basically i've hit some brick walls in my head with all this cuckolding latelyLots okay...... more than any one man could ask for.  I'm not here to get into all the gory details, suffice it to say my gf/Master has a growing stable of .....ah, variously racial lovers and RECENT events make that ten times harder and heavier to bear than just knowing she's having sex with some men who intimidate me a lot.  k?


Well YoungCuk, I briefly took a look at your profile and it said you weren't looking to make friends with males as you didn't feel comfortable talking with them about your feelings.  I suggest you not limit yourself as we're not all the same men who are on the other side of the coin in your dynamic with your girlfriend.  I was initially a bit hesitant to give you a lot of advice, but clearly you're reaching out, asking for it and appear to be in need of it. 
 
The first thing I'd ask you since you emphasized in the line I've bolded and turned red is "who's the one who really has the desire for cuckholding, you or your girlfriend?"  If it's a turn-on for you, what aspects of it are the turn-on?  In particular, is it involving you in participating by say watching her with another man, knowing that she can be with another when she wants, or waiting for her to return from some liason with another that she's told you about?  The more you can identify about what aspect of it is the turn-on for you, the better you can tell us, and more importantly her, why you're having problems with her being involved with the particular men of various races that you've mentioned, along with the other recent events you've not shared.
 

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To be clear, this means that the ONLY time my girlfriend will have for serious sexual activity is those three days off and the ONLY people who will get to experience that with her are these other men.  To be clear, 9 times out of ten the best i will get is a quickie and between now and January it will increasingly weigh on me how much more time she actually spends having sex with them than with me.  I will be the strong minority in her sexual diet.

I guess this is the part I thought a lot of women might want to weigh in on?  Chastity is what i'm kind of ending up with.  Is that good, i dunno.  If it was not FORCED chastity, like no way i can do anything about it at all, it would be a lot easier for me but this is a burden.  Do i bear the burden nobly even though i might end up screwing the whole deal up before the end if i  snap?  how do i handle knowing that the only people who are really free to persue my girlfriend romantically are these other men? 

Yes there is a romantic aspect because she's one of those girls who needs some kind of emotional connection.  Will i live through this and what will i become by the end? 


Sounds like you have 2 issues here.  The first is enforced chastity which you didn't plan on being in for more than a few days.  Clearly you need to discuss it's affect on your emotional stability with your girlfriend.  I have to ask though, how much of that is about not being able to have a release and how much is about not being able to connect physically/sexually with your girlfriend; which for many men also involves an emotional connection that doesn't get expressed or occur for them in other ways?
 
The other thing I'm hearing is that your girlfriend doesn't casually have sex with the men she cuckholds you with, thus there's some kind of emotional connection between her and each of them.  I hear you essentially asking how committed your girlfriend is to your relationship and is she vulnerable to being pursued by these other men while you're not there as often as you'd like?  These insecurities you have regarding the strength of committment the two of you have to each other are things you clearly need to express to your girlfriend and discuss with her.  The insecurity you feel may be entirely your own.  However, if the cuck dynamic isn't something you desire, then I'd certainly understand why you'd feel this way.  Obviously, the only way to know where you stand and to quell your fears is to discuss these issues with her.
 

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Is there a bright side to this?  I've got to know. To me right now i just feel alone and scared.  On the one hand i feel like i could do it and embrace it and maybe i'm just trying not to embrace a big part of who i am, you know?

What if it becomes the norm and even if i quit working there she wont want to have sex with me, or what if i have to beg for sex for the rest of my life even though they just kind of grab her and behave like real men?


This seems to all go back to my original question!   To help you, we'd need to know who was the one with the desire to incorporate cuckolding into your relationship.  I can understand your feeling alone and being scared.  You're reaching out and expressing those fears in a healthy manner.  That's a very good thing in my opinion!
 
It takes time to search inside oneself to discover what's at your core; what drives your sexuality and pushes your buttons.  If being cuckolded makes you feel this insecure, then perhaps it's not the dynamic for you.  If it does push your buttons, but you feel insecure because of the situation with your girlfriend, then perhaps this is situational and simply needs to be discussed.  You may be with the wrong woman to have this kind of dynamic with.  You simply may need more reassurance from her that "you're the one", regardless of who she's with, ultimately she's going to come home to be with you.  Only the two of you can establish the ground rules for your dynamic.  It varies for each couple and there are no set rules to follow.
 
As an FYI, some men get turned on by begging in general for whatever they want.  Many Dommes get really turned on when a man begs for what they desire from them.   If that's not your thing and it's hers, perhaps that's something the two of you need to negotiate between you.  As to behaving like "real men", in my opinion there is no such thing that applies to all.  I belive a "real man" is a one who is true to himself and lives according to what he is and desires.  If being a cuck is what you are and you can admit it to yourself along with the woman in your life, then that's being a real enough man for me.  What anyone else thinks should matter as far as I'm concerned. 
 
Your kink may not be my kink, but I'm happy for you if it works for you.  Don't judge yourself by other's standards, instead acknowledge what you find inside.  If you find a woman who loves you for that, in my book, it makes you a very lucky man!
 
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RE: Something You/all might want to weigh in on - 11/4/2007 2:03:28 PM   
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Hi Lady Hibiscus, thanks very much for writing and for reading what I wrote: I really appreciate your feedback. Ah, the world of cuckolding....

Not so much fun?  No i guess not sometimes.. but the thrill, how can i go without it?  What are the positive things i'm getting from this arrangement?  Well i love my girlfriend, i love the way she makes me feel, i love being around her and i love the way she looks when she comes home from you know what, and that smile does something to my spine.  helppppppp.  As far as the negatives, there's no way in hell i'm going to back out of this relationship or make someone else suffer for me getting what i asked for. 

if one thing is always true its that people try to talk me out of being a cuck.  Damned if they don't all make sense and to be honest? if i could i would make her stop until i got a different job.  but i cant'.  and maybe its an opportunity, i dunno but i'm still freakin out.  but i always freak out its what i do, maybe i should just get it into my head that im a frigid saucebag and stop worrying. i wish i could stop worrying anyway.  i know i dont have to worry about her leaving me, thats been well established.  if i do as i'm expected and basically commanded to do i know i can count on her being there.  i love her, i want her forever. 

i have this opportunity to accept what i've hidden from and embrace what i've avoided... but i've had that opportunity before.  i've never been this close though.  hm..... my opportunity is to really do things for her and not for any selfish reason at all.  to be honest where i freak out is when i realize that i will go through all this suffering and still keep the house clean and the only man who will benefit is Andrew next weekend, to give some scale of the time. 

the answer should seem clear, if i'm really committed to treating my girlfriend with the service and respect she deserves, i should do so and then this isn't a catastrophe its an opportunity to become who i've been inside all along. 

i want to be selfish....... i want to say "its not fair because they don't have to do anything and they get what i cant have, but i have to do everything, and i can't have it and they get it and i dont'" .. that sounds pretty selfish of me.  but i don't like men i like my girlfriend, i love her.   i want her to benefit not them.  which is the case.  but in my head as a jealous male its like all i see is them coming and taking whats mine from me without having to work or serve or try.  she says its the relationship that counts not the sex.  its true!  why am i doomed to be a stupid male and think the stupid way we think!  ugh

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RE: Something You/all might want to weigh in on - 11/4/2007 2:13:14 PM   
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Touche Pixelslave,

You hit the nail on the head so many times its hard to know where to start but i appreciate what you wrote a lot.  We both like cuckolding - she's never been faithful and i've never sought a faithful girlfriend since i was a teenager i always looked for someone who would cheat.  she wont stop and i can't make her.  people say sometimes it might not be the right girld but it is for me and i know i can be secure in my relationship i just dont feel secure in myself.  they get to be "true to themselves" and just simply grab her, but me i'm in two pieces.  there is definately the part that wont ever deign to be outdone by another man, i.e., if that's being true to themselves i could be true to how much i don't like them and do what they do at the sacrifice of this power exchange that i love so much.  i dont' easily reconcile with putting other men above me and i have to try to think of ways it can make sense in my head without really allowing them any status other than "sex object" in my head.  I don't like men and i don't like the way they make me feel but i love my girlfriend and i love how she makes me feel.  strange i guess. 

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RE: Something You/all might want to weigh in on - 11/4/2007 2:26:07 PM   
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I'm going to step way out on a limb here........ but, you don't sound like a cuckold to me.  You sound like a man in love with a woman and you DO have a problem with your role in her life.  Examine it.  You sound full of panic, and it could easily turn to resentment.

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RE: Something You/all might want to weigh in on - 11/4/2007 8:15:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FaithfulYoungCuk
i.e., if that's being true to themselves i could be true to how much i don't like them and do what they do at the sacrifice of this power exchange that i love so much.  i dont' easily reconcile with putting other men above me and i have to try to think of ways it can make sense in my head without really allowing them any status other than "sex object" in my head. 


I'm afraid I'm not following your logic here.  You're in a cuck relationship and making a reference to what the other men involved in making you a cuckold "do at the sacrifice" of your power exchange with your Mistress!  Isn't that exactly part of what your power exchange is based on?  These men don't do anything to your power exchange with your Mistress!  If anything, they help facilitate the dynamic you have with her.  Without them, she couldn't make you into a cuck!  They're not doing it to you, you're doing it to yourself by agreeing to the power exchange you've entered into with your girlfriend you've said you love so much!
 
Are you putting other men above you, or are you allowing your girlfriend to put them above you?  Or perhaps are you allowing her as part of your power exchange to use them to humiliate you, excite you, "push your buttons", control you, or do something else that you seek from her?  Whatever the case, it's all in your mind and how you choose to see things.
 

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I don't like men and i don't like the way they make me feel but i love my girlfriend and i love how she makes me feel.  strange i guess. 


NO ONE can "make" you feel anything!  You have a choice as to how you are going to allow yourself to feel around other men.  If you wish to feel inferior, that's entirely up to you.  If you wish to feel angry, powerless and victimized by them because they might get to be intimate with your Mistress, again that's your choice.  However, you're also the one she chooses to come home to each night as part of your dynamic.  If you wish it to be different in some way, perhaps with some kind of "limits" that are more comfortable for you, then you need to express that and discuss your concerns with her. 
 
Regardless of what you might think, your feelings are your own and not something that anyone can cause you to have.  I suggest you take responsibility for yourself and begin to own those feelings as yours.  Once you do, you might get a better handle on how you really feel about what's going on in your life and your relationship with your girlfriend.
 
Best of luck to you in your journey of self discovery.  It can be a difficult path to travel, but well worth the effort.
 
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RE: Something You/all might want to weigh in on - 11/4/2007 9:07:36 PM   
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I'm going to step way out on a limb here........ but, you don't sound like a cuckold to me.  You sound like a man in love with a woman and you DO have a problem with your role in her life.  Examine it.  You sound full of panic, and it could easily turn to resentment.


Precisely what I was thinking.
Either I am way out on that limb with you, or we are both firmly on the ground.

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RE: Something You/all might want to weigh in on - 11/5/2007 3:47:29 AM   
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A really wise Mistress I know has a very simple philosophy about BDSM: if you ain't absolutely lovin' it, don't do it!

On some level you must be loving the drama of all this.  If you didn't, you would get busy finding a new job and/or a new girlfriend. 

I suspect you are an emotional masochist, so enjoy your pain!!!  It is all pain of your own making.  No, seriously.  I am not trying to be a smart-alec or criticising your kink.  You are really into emotional pain (in relationships with women) and the sooner you realise how much you love that kind of suffering (and why), the more personal growth you will experience.






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RE: Something You/all might want to weigh in on - 11/5/2007 7:14:56 AM   
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Uh, ok...so what was your question......or was this just your opportunity to show off the sortid details of your life with strangers?

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RE: Something You/all might want to weigh in on - 11/5/2007 4:57:38 PM   
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Uh, ok...so what was your question......or was this just your opportunity to show off the sortid details of your life with strangers?


Trust me I'm not sharing any sordid details.  If you look close my question is that I'm looking for advice and maybe finding some people with similar experiences I can talk to.  I'm not here to sneer so maybe gimme a break huh.

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RE: Something You/all might want to weigh in on - 11/5/2007 5:11:07 PM   
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A really wise Mistress I know has a very simple philosophy about BDSM: if you ain't absolutely lovin' it, don't do it!

On some level you must be loving the drama of all this.  If you didn't, you would get busy finding a new job and/or a new girlfriend. 

I suspect you are an emotional masochist, so enjoy your pain!!!  It is all pain of your own making.  No, seriously.  I am not trying to be a smart-alec or criticising your kink.  You are really into emotional pain (in relationships with women) and the sooner you realise how much you love that kind of suffering (and why), the more personal growth you will experience.


Hi Ms C

This is a lot of what i was hoping to hear after posting what i've shared so far.  I'm very impressed you could discern all that.  Emotional Masochist huh?  That makes some sense.  Enjoy it though?  If there's anything i could do about it i wish i could stop ;) 

I am getting busy finding a new job but the potential is I've got two months of this yet to go thru, culminating on our anniversary.  We are a new relationship, this is our first year.  Last year is where a lot of my current anxiety comes from because I was with a beautiful young vanilla girl and we got to cuckolding and she ended up leaving me after 9 months of my life for the first well hung dude she ran into.  I've never had a problem with jealousy or separation anxiety before then.  I mean it wasn't just that she left, she completely ripped my heart out and made it into mincemeat, then since she's a vegetarian she threw it away.  Vanilla = bad for trained subs i guess. 

if i aint loving it dont do it... on some level i must be loving it... It's painful how accurate you are there.  like it should say in my profile I'm getting to a point where i have to spit or get off the pot.  I'm finding myself with no choice but to embrace what i've so far managed to hide from.  I hid from it because you know its like gay people being in the closet, everybody comes out when they're ready.  I'm finding I'm ready but Im not ready to let go of the doorknob.  They always say its important to have people you can talk to so here I am on CM looking to meet some new friends.

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RE: Something You/all might want to weigh in on - 11/5/2007 10:18:06 PM   
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Now.......... biggest problem for me right now is my new job.  She works Sunday-Wednesday 3rd shift and now i will be working Thursday through Saturday 3rd shift.  We each get three days off but ALL of those days are days when the other one is working AND I can't quit for financial reasons until i find a new job.  In all likelihood this is going to last until January. 

To be clear, this means that the ONLY time my girlfriend will have for serious sexual activity is those three days off and the ONLY people who will get to experience that with her are these other men.  To be clear, 9 times out of ten the best i will get is a quickie and between now and January it will increasingly weigh on me how much more time she actually spends having sex with them than with me.  I will be the strong minority in her sexual diet.


Am I the only one that got hung up on the description of the work schedule problem?  Faithful, could you clarify what the problem is, because I'm not understanding at all why you won't be having regular sex with your partner from what you said here.

She works Sun-Wed, 3rd shift.
You work Thru-Sat, 3rd shift.

Where is the lack of time to have lots of non-quickie sex?  This is a totally normal work schedule for a couple, just at night instead of the daytime.

Is it that others are familiar with past posts and there is more in your schedule going on that I don't know about?  Both of you going to college during the day or something similar?  Live a few hours apart?

I'm confused, please clarify.




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RE: Something You/all might want to weigh in on - 11/5/2007 11:06:55 PM   
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Am I the only one that got hung up on the description of the work schedule problem?  Faithful, could you clarify what the problem is, because I'm not understanding at all why you won't be having regular sex with your partner from what you said here.

She works Sun-Wed, 3rd shift.
You work Thru-Sat, 3rd shift.

Where is the lack of time to have lots of non-quickie sex?  This is a totally normal work schedule for a couple, just at night instead of the daytime.

Is it that others are familiar with past posts and there is more in your schedule going on that I don't know about?  Both of you going to college during the day or something similar?  Live a few hours apart?

I'm confused, please clarify.





No problem R P,

We both work 3rd shift.  Ten hours a shift plus an hour driving back and fourth.  Her days off are Thursday through Saturday which means she works Wednesday night before her days off and Sunday night she goes back to work.  I work Wednesday night which is the last day she works, and I work every day ending with Saturday, so my  first day off is Sunday which is the first day she goes back to work.  Every day she has off is a day I'm at work for twelve hours and she'll be with the other guys over the weekend.  This means the only time I'll get a quickie is when she is working, I wont ever get to be the one to spend a romantic night with her on her day off, all i'll get to do is sleep next to her when she's working and get a quickie sometimes.  The only guys who will seriously be able to pursue my girlfriend and have the time to do so are these other fellas.  I will never be able to spend a day with her until I get another job which I'm trying very very hard to do.

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RE: Something You/all might want to weigh in on - 11/5/2007 11:07:03 PM   
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Uh, ok...so what was your question......or was this just your opportunity to show off the sortid details of your life with strangers?


Trust me I'm not sharing any sordid details.  If you look close my question is that I'm looking for advice and maybe finding some people with similar experiences I can talk to.  I'm not here to sneer so maybe gimme a break huh.


The difficulty lies in not knowing her motivations, your motivations, the level of commitment in the other parties involved, and whether any of you negotiated this, whether you're all playing safely, etc.  You just put forth some information and a "so am I crazy" statement at the end.  What in particular do you desire feedback on?  What are you really struggling with?

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RE: Something You/all might want to weigh in on - 11/5/2007 11:25:08 PM   
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Uh, ok...so what was your question......or was this just your opportunity to show off the sortid details of your life with strangers?


Trust me I'm not sharing any sordid details.  If you look close my question is that I'm looking for advice and maybe finding some people with similar experiences I can talk to.  I'm not here to sneer so maybe gimme a break huh.


The difficulty lies in not knowing her motivations, your motivations, the level of commitment in the other parties involved, and whether any of you negotiated this, whether you're all playing safely, etc.  You just put forth some information and a "so am I crazy" statement at the end.  What in particular do you desire feedback on?  What are you really struggling with?


We're not really a troubled relationship because she's never going to leave me and I'm never going to leave her but i've got troubles on my end dealing with the hard reality of how things are right now.  Usually this is my favorite time of the year you know? 

I really wish i knew her motivations better.  She was vanilla before we met to the extent that she didn't identify herself with bdsm until we got into the deeper part of our relationship.  I dated a vanilla girl last year and it ended up like a bad horror movie.  So i do have a fear that my girlfriend might look at these other guys even slightly the way my ex did, which turned out to be nothing at all to do with the way I viewed them. 

One thing all of you and everyone in the lifestyle will agree with me on: my girlfriend should not be passing me off as her gay roommate to the guys that she dates.  She says it's to humiliate me more but I don't always feel like thats the case.  God knows if anybody's likely to be wrong its probably me and not her, but i feel like she tells them that because she wants it to really feel like romance, the full satisfying bundle.  But she's always cheated on every guy she's been with so I know she's not looking for the next love of her life who she will be completely faithful to (that would be my ex's approach).  But I would feel much more comfortable and to be honest i could go on with my life a whole lot easier if she would just be up front about me and not try to hide me.  Most girls who've done a lot of cuckolding will know that there's no shortage of guys who want to screw somebody else's wife or girlfriend.  Sure beats having them go on about babies and marriage.  Women, no offense, can be really blind to the bullshit men tell them sometimes.  My ex, the guy she left with dumped her like a bad habit - but not before he professed his long term desires for love and marriage and his strong need to posess her completely.  in truth he just wanted to get me out of the picture and then once she was stupid enough to give him everything he wanted he resented the implications of what he'd gotten himself into and how he got himself into it.  Once he realized he'd made that bed himself and was not responsible for it he took his eight inch cock and bailed.

I get pretty lost in the ins and out of whats going on currently.  As far as what in particular I desire to get feedback on, well since you ask I'd love to know if anyone has any advice on how to convert her from being an in the closet girlfriend to an upfront cuckoldress, and trying to make a girl from a formerly vanilla background see that its not such a bad thing for the guys to know about me.

Thanks for replying MisPandora.

K

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RE: Something You/all might want to weigh in on - 11/5/2007 11:33:57 PM   
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Negotiations and renegotiations can take place throughout the course of a relationship.  It sounds to me like there is some renegotiation that needs to take place to cover the changes and discomforts that are happening in your lives.

Without knowing your ages, it's hard to know whether this is a question of her maturity or not.  Have you just come right out and asked her why she's ashamed to admit she's a cuckoldress rather than lying?  I'd be right up front about it -- tell her that it's not humiliating to you in a good sense that she's misrepresenting your role.  Tell her that it leaves you questioning her motives and doubtful about her value of you.  The reinforcement in a cuckolding relationship is that you know she loves you and needs you, and you're willing to do anything for her because of that bond.  Anything that's done to jeopardize the bond risks the balance of the relationship.  Perhaps she's just that inexperienced that she doesn't see that the apple cart is tipping over a wee bit....

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RE: Something You/all might want to weigh in on - 11/6/2007 12:02:16 AM   
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Negotiations and renegotiations can take place throughout the course of a relationship. It sounds to me like there is some renegotiation that needs to take place to cover the changes and discomforts that are happening in your lives.

Without knowing your ages, it's hard to know whether this is a question of her maturity or not. Have you just come right out and asked her why she's ashamed to admit she's a cuckoldress rather than lying? I'd be right up front about it -- tell her that it's not humiliating to you in a good sense that she's misrepresenting your role. Tell her that it leaves you questioning her motives and doubtful about her value of you. The reinforcement in a cuckolding relationship is that you know she loves you and needs you, and you're willing to do anything for her because of that bond. Anything that's done to jeopardize the bond risks the balance of the relationship. Perhaps she's just that inexperienced that she doesn't see that the apple cart is tipping over a wee bit....
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Negotiations and renegotiations can take place throughout the course of a relationship.  It sounds to me like there is some renegotiation that needs to take place to cover the changes and discomforts that are happening in your lives.

Without knowing your ages, it's hard to know whether this is a question of her maturity or not.  Have you just come right out and asked her why she's ashamed to admit she's a cuckoldress rather than lying?  I'd be right up front about it -- tell her that it's not humiliating to you in a good sense that she's misrepresenting your role.  Tell her that it leaves you questioning her motives and doubtful about her value of you.  The reinforcement in a cuckolding relationship is that you know she loves you and needs you, and you're willing to do anything for her because of that bond.  Anything that's done to jeopardize the bond risks the balance of the relationship.  Perhaps she's just that inexperienced that she doesn't see that the apple cart is tipping over a wee bit....


Mis Pandora,

Man that is some good, solid advice.  At first I thought you were going to be mean to me then you just blew my mind.  Sorry to leave out the ages, I'm 29 and she's 26.  This is a hard time of year for me at the moment because this is when things first started happening last time.  It's definately not humiliating to me in a good way.  Its driving me crazy that these guys keep talking going on about her moving in with them and junk.  I mean thats a pretty stupid thing for a guy to say when they don't know a girl very well, moving in, getting married, what their kids would look like etc.  Guys say some really stupid crap with the hope the girl will buy it and giver herself to them completely.  Thats the biggest reason I get crazy about it being completely impossible for me to be there on the days she doesn't work because even though i know she's not leaving, a lot of these guys have a lot more going for them than me, good careers, owned houses, that ethnic look girls can't go without these days and a couple miles below the belt.  So it drives me nuts thinking of this non stop never ending stream of marriage proposals, where could we move what could we do, lets have babies etc.

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