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RE: how do you get someone to be your slave? - 11/7/2007 12:25:38 AM

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Rose colored glasses? -smiles- I said I was a romantic, not an idealist. If you would care to peruse my profile, you will see that I value honesty with myself above all else. I may be a romantic, but I work very hard to not let it get in the way of reality.

I'm intrigued though, what is with the slights at my expense? They are quite subtle, so much so that it would be easy to feign innocence to their presence, but they are clearly there.

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I would seriously advise you to do-rather than talk. Then you will know.

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RE: how do you get someone to be your slave? - 11/7/2007 12:41:47 AM

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RRafe, I have always enjoyed seeing your tidbits of wisdom throughout the forums, please do not retreat into the safety of smug superiority or ageism. I truly enjoy honest and open debate, and I am not challenging you or your beliefs, merely discussing them.

If I have offended you, it was not my intention, and I would be deeply saddened to see that my, shall we say, exuberance for debate has caused you to think less of me.
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RE: how do you get someone to be your slave? - 11/7/2007 12:46:14 AM

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ORIGINAL: MasterShibari

RRafe, I have always enjoyed seeing your tidbits of wisdom throughout the forums, please do not retreat into the safety of smug superiority or ageism. I truly enjoy honest and open debate, and I am not challenging you or your beliefs, merely discussing them.

If I have offended you, it was not my intention, and I would be deeply saddened to see that my, shall we say, exuberance for debate has caused you to think less of me.
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I think Rrafe just demonstrated one way of making someone your sub...

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RE: how do you get someone to be your slave? - 11/7/2007 12:49:44 AM

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I think Rrafe just demonstrated one way of making someone your sub...

If that is your belief of what submisison is.......

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RE: how do you get someone to be your slave? - 11/7/2007 12:51:06 AM

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RRafe, I have always enjoyed seeing your tidbits of wisdom throughout the forums, please do not retreat into the safety of smug superiority or ageism. I truly enjoy honest and open debate, and I am not challenging you or your beliefs, merely discussing them.

If I have offended you, it was not my intention, and I would be deeply saddened to see that my, shall we say, exuberance for debate has caused you to think less of me.
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Smiles-only fools think themselves wise. I have learned from many many mistakes. I only pass on the little that suffering has taught me. You are an intelligent young man who shows great promise. I am probably less offended, than worried about you. But you will need to follow your own course. That's how we learn.

Some things we learn through emulation-others,only by pain.

The choice will always be yours.

I only will say this. If you truly wish to show compassion, try not to make your choices-be painful for others. That is the heart of mastery.

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RE: how do you get someone to be your slave? - 11/7/2007 12:51:52 AM

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Smiles-only fools think themselves wise. I have learned from many many mistakes. I only pass on the little that suffering has taught me. You are an intelligent young man who shows great promise. I am probably less offended, than worried about you. But you will need to follow your own course. That's how we learn.

Some things we learn through emulation-others,only by pain.

The choice will always be yours.

I only will say this. If you truly wish to show compassion, try not to make your choices-be painful for others. That is the heart of mastery.

See, this is why I like this guy.

Best wishes to you in your journey, RRafe, wherever it ends up taking you.

M. Shibari

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RE: how do you get someone to be your slave? - 11/7/2007 12:55:27 AM

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I only will say this. If you truly wish to show compassion, try not to make your choices-be painful for others. That is the heart of mastery.

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Without a doubt one of the best things I have read on this forum.

M. Shibari

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RE: how do you get someone to be your slave? - 11/7/2007 12:57:03 AM

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COME ON MAN!

Seriously what kind of question is this? I mean honestly. Asking people to define a Plan they use to get women to do what they say is tacky man. Just be yourself and always be honest about what you want. I don't GET them to do anything man.

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RE: how do you get someone to be your slave? - 11/7/2007 1:00:43 AM

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I think Rrafe just demonstrated one way of making someone your sub...

If that is your belief of what submisison is.......

Joke, it was a joke... Not everything has to be taken absolutely seriously.

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RE: how do you get someone to be your slave? - 11/7/2007 1:02:27 AM

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Joke, it was a joke... Not everything has to be taken absolutely seriously.

-laughs- Good, good.... you had me worried.

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RE: how do you get someone to be your slave? - 11/7/2007 1:46:43 AM

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I've never wanted a slave, personally, but I have a little idea for getting one. ;) Talk to her, put her at ease, get to know her, let her get to know you, woo her when you're sure you want her. And when you're sure she wants you, and you're soul mates, and you've decided you never want to be without her and don't want her to ever have to suffer with that need for you she will assuredly have from then on... ride up to her window on your horse, climb her balcony, quietly break open her window, crawl through, put your hand over her mouth while she's still sleeping, awaken her by grabbing her and throwing her over your shoulder securely – whether she’s kicking or startled quiet. Then climb down, put her on the horse with you, hold her tight so she doesn’t fall, give her a kiss that’s memory will warm her every cold night……. make her your bride, keep her forever, and love her always and unconditionally. And you’ll have won her good heart and the love within it for all time.

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RE: how do you get someone to be your slave? - 11/7/2007 2:13:40 AM

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By being what I am...

a girl can tell-

A girl who knows what I am and that she is looking, she will come closer.

Everything after that is mutual compatibility and the luck of the draw...

If I had to talk a girl into submission to me, I'd be damned lonely- I'm a worship freak, preferring the idea of her talking me into taking her.

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RE: how do you get someone to be your slave? - 11/7/2007 3:50:03 AM

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Yup, no secrets, although Hermione83 had a unique idea..heh. I have found that M/s types usually find each other somehow and that makes it not such an earth shattering event (though still special) since you are both working from the same perspective.

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RE: how do you get someone to be your slave? - 11/7/2007 3:53:12 AM

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True, Steel. But, oh, that it were..... ;)

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RE: how do you get someone to be your slave? - 11/7/2007 4:03:41 AM

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Are you really trying to convince me that relationships, any relationship, is simple?

From my perspective, the OP wasn't really about maintaining relationships, i.e keeping a slave. It was about how to get someone to want to have a relationship with you, i.e. getting a slave. Inspiring someone to want to have a relationship with you is very simple. Be who you are and that will either inspire them or it will not.

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RE: how do you get someone to be your slave? - 11/7/2007 4:40:34 AM

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Joke, it was a joke... Not everything has to be taken absolutely seriously.

-laughs- Good, good.... you had me worried.

Yes, I imagine unintentionally finding yourself RRafe's sub would be rather worrying. Judging by other threads, you'd best be practising your sewing skills...

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RE: how do you get someone to be your slave? - 11/7/2007 4:48:46 AM

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Bet taking your shirt off helps too.

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RE: how do you get someone to be your slave? - 11/7/2007 5:21:14 AM

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Bullying isn't cool. =\

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RE: how do you get someone to be your slave? - 11/7/2007 5:50:33 AM

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To the op. Grow cotton and advertise for pickers.

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RE: how do you get someone to be your slave? - 11/7/2007 6:30:07 AM

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for me its always been easy most of the time. wink lol i do it by just being a very loving caring man. that must seem very vanilla to most here but it always worked for me.

So how to you get someone to be your slave?

I never think of it as "getting someone to be my slave" -- I think of it as two people exploring DS through a formal process of getting to know each other, then training and finally evaluating things to see if ownership is appropriate for us.

Otherwise I am just really TammyJo whether I'm teaching, cooking, reading, flogging, or doing anything else. Part of being me is maintaining the contracts I sign through my own sense of honor and consistency. That can either be as scary as hell or trigger a deep sense of respect deserving of that person's serving me.

Frankly if I had to do more than be me, I don't think I'd be in BDSM.

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