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LadyHibiscus -> RE: Straight vs. Bisexual Dommes (11/7/2007 10:14:35 AM)

The only people I have EVER met or encountered into the fantasy that is "forced" bisexuality is males.  Why so many men feel that a dominant female is going to pimp them out is beyond me, but there is. 

I am far too queer-friendly to be het, but that's the option I choose.  I would happily take a gay male or female or TG submissive if we clicked on other, more important areas. 




RumpusParable -> RE: Straight vs. Bisexual Dommes (11/7/2007 10:41:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Cissykay1999

MisPandora,
That wasn't my intention. I appologize for the way it was written. I guess what I was saying is that I'm AFRAID that a domme who is bisexual, would want to enjoy forcing a straight sub to interact with another man. I know now that I was wrong, at least to the extent that the dommes who have taken the time to educate me here, are the oposite.


Actually, few have commented either way.  Most have addressed your questions and viewpoint and whether they require a sub to be bi if they are.  That's not the same thing as what you are equating it to in this quotation.

I am a bisexual domina.  I like both straight and bi subs.  Depending on the sub and the relationship I may or may not get a kick out of forcing them to do things they normally wouldn't do.

This isn't limited to "straight sub! go suck off that male!".  One can take a straight male sub and just as easily order "straight sub!  see that female you find repulsive and/or hate?  we've decided she's not going to bath for 3 days and then you have to go down on her".

Or, "bisexual male sub!  I know you can't stand anal sex but you're going to receive it from this guy!"

Humiliation, forced sexual contact, and similar intense play doesn't have to be limited at all to a specific sex or sexuality.  If you partner with a Mistress who you agree to serve in degrading or "forced" situations then she's going to line you up with what you don't want.

She may totally agree to never have you service a male because she has no desire to push those buttons in you, but those aren't the only buttons to push.

A straight domina is just as likely to have a taste for humiliation and force play as a bisexual one.  If you're not into that then you need to stop focusing on who SHE finds attractive and focus on whether she likes to make you fuck those you don't want to... because her sexuality is not going to define that, they're two different things.




PhDslave -> RE: Straight vs. Bisexual Dommes (11/8/2007 7:28:41 AM)

Since i'm  seeking Women who are open to the possibility of a relationship developing into an exclusive   Femdom life partnership, i'd have to guess that a straight Woman would statistically be a better bet for me.  This isn't to  completely disregard the chance that a bi or even lesbian exclusive relationship could develop, but the likelihood seems less so in my opinion.




Cissykay1999 -> RE: Straight vs. Bisexual Dommes (11/8/2007 9:17:11 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: RumpusParable

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cissykay1999

MisPandora,
That wasn't my intention. I appologize for the way it was written. I guess what I was saying is that I'm AFRAID that a domme who is bisexual, would want to enjoy forcing a straight sub to interact with another man. I know now that I was wrong, at least to the extent that the dommes who have taken the time to educate me here, are the oposite.


Actually, few have commented either way.  Most have addressed your questions and viewpoint and whether they require a sub to be bi if they are.  That's not the same thing as what you are equating it to in this quotation.

I am a bisexual domina.  I like both straight and bi subs.  Depending on the sub and the relationship I may or may not get a kick out of forcing them to do things they normally wouldn't do.

This isn't limited to "straight sub! go suck off that male!".  One can take a straight male sub and just as easily order "straight sub!  see that female you find repulsive and/or hate?  we've decided she's not going to bath for 3 days and then you have to go down on her".

Or, "bisexual male sub!  I know you can't stand anal sex but you're going to receive it from this guy!"

Humiliation, forced sexual contact, and similar intense play doesn't have to be limited at all to a specific sex or sexuality.  If you partner with a Mistress who you agree to serve in degrading or "forced" situations then she's going to line you up with what you don't want.

She may totally agree to never have you service a male because she has no desire to push those buttons in you, but those aren't the only buttons to push.

A straight domina is just as likely to have a taste for humiliation and force play as a bisexual one.  If you're not into that then you need to stop focusing on who SHE finds attractive and focus on whether she likes to make you fuck those you don't want to... because her sexuality is not going to define that, they're two different things.


Rumpus,
Apparently there are others that didn't understand my post, even after I tried to explain it further. By sugarcoating your comment with the word "normally" makes you the type of woman that any man in his right mind would stay away from. We have in the lifestyle a phrase called "hard limits" and just because you'd try to expose a sub breaking a hard limit for your amusemrnt, because it's something he normally wouldn't do,  doesn't make it right. In my opinion, if your statement to me showed up on your profile, you have trouble finding a man to dominate.




MistressDelilah1 -> RE: Straight vs. Bisexual Dommes (11/8/2007 10:27:39 AM)

I've found that it is fairly easy to find sub men in rl so that is why I'm mainly on here looking for female subs. I don't know if that helps.

quote:

ORIGINAL: subrob1967

It's been my experience that looking at Domme profiles on this site, most of the ones listed as Bi are looking for female submissives or couples only.

I'm not saying this is right or wrong, after all, I'm owned by a Bi Female couple, just that it seems like any Domme listed as Bi are looking for females.




beeble -> RE: Straight vs. Bisexual Dommes (11/8/2007 10:29:25 AM)

quote:

Cissykay1999 wrote: By sugarcoating your comment with the word "normally" makes you the type of woman that any man in his right mind would stay away from. We have in the lifestyle a phrase called "hard limits" and just because you'd try to expose a sub breaking a hard limit for your amusemrnt, because it's something he normally wouldn't do, doesn't make it right.

Huh?  Can't you see the distinction between `things they wouldn't normally do' (i.e., things outside their immediate comfort zone or just things they wouldn't do of their own accord) and `things they absolutely would not do' (i.e., hard limits)?  At no point in her post did Ms Parable suggest breaking anyone's hard limits for any reason.




PhDslave -> RE: Straight vs. Bisexual Dommes (11/8/2007 10:39:46 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: PhDslave

Since i'm  seeking Women who are open to the possibility of a relationship developing into an exclusive   Femdom life partnership, i'd have to guess that a straight Woman would statistically be a better bet for me.  This isn't to  completely disregard the chance that a bi or even lesbian exclusive relationship could develop, but the likelihood seems less so in my opinion.


A little outside the topic, but same criterion goes for age.  Anything's possible and i might find a perfect partner in an eighteen year old, but  someone closer to my age is a likelier bet.




MystressDream -> RE: Straight vs. Bisexual Dommes (11/8/2007 11:10:50 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressDelilah1

I've found that it is fairly easy to find sub men in rl so that is why I'm mainly on here looking for female subs. I don't know if that helps.

quote:

ORIGINAL: subrob1967

It's been my experience that looking at Domme profiles on this site, most of the ones listed as Bi are looking for female submissives or couples only.

I'm not saying this is right or wrong, after all, I'm owned by a Bi Female couple, just that it seems like any Domme listed as Bi are looking for females.



Finding someone of "quality" who is actually "available" for a serious relationship is not easy where I live.  I seem to attract the "do me bottoms" or men young enough to be my sons.  <chuckle>




MistressDelilah1 -> RE: Straight vs. Bisexual Dommes (11/8/2007 11:16:19 AM)

I am very lucky that there is a large BDSM scene in South Florida; but you are right, finding someone of quality can be tricky. Maybe you should try the younger men, you might like it ;)

Finding someone of "quality" who is actually "available" for a serious relationship is not easy where I live.  I seem to attract the "do me bottoms" or men young enough to be my sons.  <chuckle>
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DiurnalVampire -> RE: Straight vs. Bisexual Dommes (11/8/2007 11:20:51 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cissykay1999

My question is, are bisexual women interested in straight male subs? I have no interest in being with other men, so does that pose a problem for dommes?


I am not going to address everything else said, since I dont have time. I do just want to reply to the OP.
Both my boys are straight. I am bisexual. The boys do not interact, and actually they have not even met as of yet. Dont know if they will or not. If they do, there will be nothing but possibly platonic casual interaction.  *I* am bi, they are not.
Besides, I do not like to share my pets. They arent permitted to be with anyone aside from me at all. I wouldnt allow them other girlfreinds, so I cant imagine why allowing them boyfriends would be acceptable. Maybe its just me.

Hope that answers the OP question.

DV




Cissykay1999 -> RE: Straight vs. Bisexual Dommes (11/8/2007 12:13:48 PM)

Dear DiurnalVampire,
Thank you for your comment. It does answer some questions. Unfortunately, the last thing I want is a platonic relationship. I want to find someone that like me, wants  a long term relationship, with a person who understands that my goal is to make her happy.




RumpusParable -> RE: Straight vs. Bisexual Dommes (11/8/2007 2:00:04 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cissykay1999

quote:

ORIGINAL: RumpusParable

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cissykay1999

MisPandora,
That wasn't my intention. I appologize for the way it was written. I guess what I was saying is that I'm AFRAID that a domme who is bisexual, would want to enjoy forcing a straight sub to interact with another man. I know now that I was wrong, at least to the extent that the dommes who have taken the time to educate me here, are the oposite.


Actually, few have commented either way.  Most have addressed your questions and viewpoint and whether they require a sub to be bi if they are.  That's not the same thing as what you are equating it to in this quotation.

I am a bisexual domina.  I like both straight and bi subs.  Depending on the sub and the relationship I may or may not get a kick out of forcing them to do things they normally wouldn't do.

This isn't limited to "straight sub! go suck off that male!".  One can take a straight male sub and just as easily order "straight sub!  see that female you find repulsive and/or hate?  we've decided she's not going to bath for 3 days and then you have to go down on her".

Or, "bisexual male sub!  I know you can't stand anal sex but you're going to receive it from this guy!"

Humiliation, forced sexual contact, and similar intense play doesn't have to be limited at all to a specific sex or sexuality.  If you partner with a Mistress who you agree to serve in degrading or "forced" situations then she's going to line you up with what you don't want.

She may totally agree to never have you service a male because she has no desire to push those buttons in you, but those aren't the only buttons to push.

A straight domina is just as likely to have a taste for humiliation and force play as a bisexual one.  If you're not into that then you need to stop focusing on who SHE finds attractive and focus on whether she likes to make you fuck those you don't want to... because her sexuality is not going to define that, they're two different things.


Rumpus,
Apparently there are others that didn't understand my post, even after I tried to explain it further. By sugarcoating your comment with the word "normally" makes you the type of woman that any man in his right mind would stay away from. We have in the lifestyle a phrase called "hard limits" and just because you'd try to expose a sub breaking a hard limit for your amusemrnt, because it's something he normally wouldn't do,  doesn't make it right. In my opinion, if your statement to me showed up on your profile, you have trouble finding a man to dominate.


What in the world are you talking about?  Not a single thing I stated there had anything to do with breaking someone's hard limits. 




RumpusParable -> RE: Straight vs. Bisexual Dommes (11/8/2007 2:01:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: beeble

quote:

Cissykay1999 wrote: By sugarcoating your comment with the word "normally" makes you the type of woman that any man in his right mind would stay away from. We have in the lifestyle a phrase called "hard limits" and just because you'd try to expose a sub breaking a hard limit for your amusemrnt, because it's something he normally wouldn't do, doesn't make it right.

Huh?  Can't you see the distinction between `things they wouldn't normally do' (i.e., things outside their immediate comfort zone or just things they wouldn't do of their own accord) and `things they absolutely would not do' (i.e., hard limits)?  At no point in her post did Ms Parable suggest breaking anyone's hard limits for any reason.



Exactly, Beeble.




beeble -> RE: Straight vs. Bisexual Dommes (11/8/2007 4:08:08 PM)

quote:

DiurnalVampire wrote: The boys do not interact, and actually they have not even met as of yet. Dont know if they will or not. If they do, there will be nothing but possibly platonic casual interaction.
Cissykay 1999 wrote: Unfortunately, the last thing I want is a platonic relationship.

OK, there seem to be some major reading comprehension issues here.  The platonic relationship to which DiurnalVampire refers is between her subs (if they ever meet), not between her and them.




Shawn1066 -> RE: Straight vs. Bisexual Dommes (11/8/2007 4:23:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: beeble

quote:

DiurnalVampire wrote: The boys do not interact, and actually they have not even met as of yet. Dont know if they will or not. If they do, there will be nothing but possibly platonic casual interaction.
Cissykay 1999 wrote: Unfortunately, the last thing I want is a platonic relationship.

OK, there seem to be some major reading comprehension issues here.  The platonic relationship to which DiurnalVampire refers is between her subs (if they ever meet), not between her and them.



Speaking as one of the aformentioned pets...  She was saying that the relationship between me and him would be platonic if we'd ever met...which it would.  I have no desire have any interaction with him beyond that of an acquantience.  He and I just aren't bi, so we have no interest in anything like that.  Niether does our Owner.

The relationship between my Owner and I is very strong and wonderful.  We also have every intention of it being happy and long term.  :-)




pixelslave -> RE: Straight vs. Bisexual Dommes (11/8/2007 8:31:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cissykay1999

Dear Rumpus,
My question was intended to get information. I would think a relationship between a straight male and a bisexual female could be wonderful. What scared me until I posted this thread was that a bisexual domme might want a sub to be with another man for any number of reasons. I am learning that that isn't the case in most dommes. My mistake.


Recognize that it depends on whether or not the Domme is relationship oriented or not.  My Mistress identifies as bisexual, but is only interested in committed relationships, not playing with more than one partner.  Her having another relationship with a female is not part of the equation; instead her bisexuality is more about being open to relationships with partners of either sex.  Fortunately, she found me first. [;)]
 
 - pixel
 
   Collared to Majik
 




Cissykay1999 -> RE: Straight vs. Bisexual Dommes (11/9/2007 5:29:50 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: pixelslave

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cissykay1999

Dear Rumpus,
My question was intended to get information. I would think a relationship between a straight male and a bisexual female could be wonderful. What scared me until I posted this thread was that a bisexual domme might want a sub to be with another man for any number of reasons. I am learning that that isn't the case in most dommes. My mistake.


Recognize that it depends on whether or not the Domme is relationship oriented or not.  My Mistress identifies as bisexual, but is only interested in committed relationships, not playing with more than one partner.  Her having another relationship with a female is not part of the equation; instead her bisexuality is more about being open to relationships with partners of either sex.  Fortunately, she found me first. [;)]
 
 - pixel
 
   Collared to Majik
 


Dear Pixel,
Sounds like you've found a perfect domme for you. I'm beginning to understand that I was limiting myself to straight dommes in my search. Hopefully, by expanding my search, i will find a domme that wants someone like me.




slaveboy291 -> RE: Straight vs. Bisexual Dommes (11/9/2007 8:13:28 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

The only people I have EVER met or encountered into the fantasy that is "forced" bisexuality is males.  Why so many men feel that a dominant female is going to pimp them out is beyond me, but there is. 

I am far too queer-friendly to be het, but that's the option I choose.  I would happily take a gay male or female or TG submissive if we clicked on other, more important areas. 


Probably read some profiles of certain type doms(that's another matter for another thread altogether, but won't get into it for the sake of staying on-topic) that state so.  i've seen this myself on various sites.

Also i've run into more than a few doms, not here but elsewhere where they considered it part of the program so to speak and consider it you know even if your not you should if that's what your Mistress wants.   Even after i said i wasn't bi-sexual or curious and even stated that most Mistresses do require male-on-male action as part of pleasing them.  It gives that kinda impression.




Cissykay1999 -> RE: Straight vs. Bisexual Dommes (11/12/2007 1:29:28 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MystressDream

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressDelilah1

I've found that it is fairly easy to find sub men in rl so that is why I'm mainly on here looking for female subs. I don't know if that helps.

quote:

ORIGINAL: subrob1967

It's been my experience that looking at Domme profiles on this site, most of the ones listed as Bi are looking for female submissives or couples only.

I'm not saying this is right or wrong, after all, I'm owned by a Bi Female couple, just that it seems like any Domme listed as Bi are looking for females.



Finding someone of "quality" who is actually "available" for a serious relationship is not easy where I live.  I seem to attract the "do me bottoms" or men young enough to be my sons.  <chuckle>

Mystress Dream,
I think I have some quality, but in my case, I find it hard to attract a woman that isn't close to me, because I believe they think I won't go to them. In my case, that isn't true, since I would love to leave the Northeast.




darchChylde -> RE: Straight vs. Bisexual Dommes (11/12/2007 1:49:04 PM)

all i have to say is to be careful looking for a bi Dominant, just because she likes women as well doesn't mean you'll ever get a scene with her and another woman... from experience, just because a woman likes woman and men doesn't mean that she necessarily is into threesomes




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