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One Master - 11/7/2007 11:37:57 PM

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When a DOM takes ownership of a slave does it mean that the slave should not spend time with any other DOM? Can a sub be a slave to more than one DOM?

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RE: One Master - 11/7/2007 11:42:34 PM

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If someone owns you, it is up to your owner to say who you can spend time with, slaves or Doms.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. Be glad you have an owner at all. Lots of slaves don't.

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RE: One Master - 11/7/2007 11:47:40 PM

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Can someone be a slave without an owner?

If a dom owns a slave - he owns her, period - that means he calls the shots. At least thats how i interpret the M/s dynamic - other opinions may differ, and i am sure they do!

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RE: One Master - 11/7/2007 11:51:42 PM

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I'll chime in with the "It's up to your Dom" replies. In my case, I can absolutely not spend anything other than platonic time with any other Dominant. Nor would I want to. Some subs serve more than one dominant, but it's up to the dominant(s) being served if this is acceptable to him/her/them.

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RE: One Master - 11/7/2007 11:56:03 PM

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Our opinion is that you are a sub until you are accepted as slave, subsequently you are a Dom until you have accepted a sub as slave and become a Master.
A Master without slave is a Dom, a slave without Master is a sub.

Depending on the wishes of your Master you can service different Doms/Dommes but only serve one Master. You can sexually service others but not serve.

Although this may be different in Poly situations.

But in fact, who cares, live, love and enjoy!

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RE: One Master - 11/8/2007 1:17:55 AM

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Dear trainedobedients, Ladies and Gentlemen,

I would have to gently disagree with the premise that a Master without a slave, is no longer a Master. It would be like a 'reduction in rank.' I would have to say, that slaves having been owned and now unowned--would be, in my eyes a slave. My reasoning is, though I owned slaves before, in a house and living the lifestyle over 9 years, other relationship as a Master-slave with other slaves that lasted almost as long. I am of the belief that my slave having titled me as a Master in addition to being seen as a Master by my peers; the title was earned and honorably so. I feel the same is with slaves. Am I to loose my title as a Master if my slave perished? Should a slave of mine loose their title of slave, if I perish?

For me, slave and or Master is more than a title; it is a level of living a life's choice in a household and for years. I am not talking about weekend warrior situation. I would think learning my art as a Master is a level to which is not subjected to 'rank/title' reduction. I feel slaves learn their art as well.

That said, I do believe the spirit of the post; was for those who are beginning their journey to which they have not past beyond the club and or party scene in a dominant-submissive exchange. However, the times have changed in where titles are not always bestowed by peers, ceremony or rituals not always present, as to bear witness that the individual is judged in their eyes--as the individual is Master or slave.

Shared ownership of one slave can be rather fun--double Dominance. Wear out one Master, there is a spare. [Chuckles with humor]

On a more serious note, joint Masters would communicate with each other and the slave, as to establish the ranking within a household and or in what area of the household rank is relative.
Main thing --it is important as a Master, not to confuse one slave or pull them apart from the middle like two dogs fighting over a treat. It boils down to the relationship that an individual is in. It can only be solved from within. I would also hope if a slave felt like the rope in a tug of war and frustrated; to tell the whole lot (be it 1-100 Masters) that there must be more structure in how and who to obey first and down the line. However, should one Master collar a slave and the slave only begged the collar of 'the one' Master--that Master is the only one to be obedient to. That Master should inform the other Masters, if it becomes an issue; that he is the Alpha Master and all other Masters will just have to be served when he is finished or when he offers his slave to serve other Dominants.

Just some thoughts.

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RE: One Master - 11/8/2007 6:03:09 AM

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Depends on the relationship. There are subs in open marriages who have doms but the doms respect the lines the husband and wife worked out such as no visible marks, or no orgasm restriction.

As far as talking to other doms, some prefer you don't. Mine doesn't mind if a conversation develops out of forum posts, but such conversations stop immediately if there's any sexual tinge or come on.

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RE: One Master - 11/8/2007 6:50:49 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: subreefer

When a DOM takes ownership of a slave does it mean that the slave should not spend time with any other DOM? Can a sub be a slave to more than one DOM?

That depends on what your dom says and believes, not people on an internet forum.

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RE: One Master - 11/8/2007 7:31:34 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: subreefer

When a DOM takes ownership of a slave does it mean that the slave should not spend time with any other DOM? Can a sub be a slave to more than one DOM?

Why are you asking this question?

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RE: One Master - 11/8/2007 8:19:46 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: subreefer

When a DOM takes ownership of a slave does it mean that the slave should not spend time with any other DOM?

depends on your relationship with yours. i'm allowed to chat with anyone i care to even though i'm engaged to one and a daughter to another.

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Can a sub be a slave to more than one DOM?

still waiting for someone to show me in the BDSM Bible where it states it's a sin to have more than 1 Dom since i have 2.

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RE: One Master - 11/8/2007 8:47:50 AM

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Can someone be a slave without an owner?

I personally expect that anyone that approaches me that says that they are a slave is a slave first. What I mean is in my scheme of things to become my slave, you must identify as a slave first. That doesn't mean a doormat or submit to everyone. To me there are slaves that are unowned and owned. Can a Master be a Master without a slave? Some believe so. I believe I am always dominant but I am Daddy only to those I own.

As far as your other question, what ever dynamics were agreed upon in your relationship is what matters. There is no set one true way it is relationship based.

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RE: One Master - 11/8/2007 1:38:15 PM

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technically yes but it is looked down a upon in this lifestyle.

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RE: One Master - 11/8/2007 2:43:10 PM

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i have asked the question because i know so little about the life style. i knew in a forum like this i might get varying answers that would educate me to the opinions that are out there.

my DOM has suggested that he will take me as his slave but that has not officially happened yet. i must say that wether he is my DOM or my Master i would first approach him if another DOM asked for any kind of service. This has not happened and may never. I wondered if some DOMSs expect their subs/slaves to service other DOMs in some ways.

i appreciate the wider views of so many and i am thankful that a DOM would be bothered with me. It is about what he wants, desires and needs. i feel if i do my best to satisfy him then my need is met - not not my wants.

should i fail to satisfy him than i am his to deal with

i am open to being corrected of course

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RE: One Master - 11/8/2007 3:06:15 PM

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i am thankful that a DOM would be bothered with me.

Oh MY!!!!!

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RE: One Master - 11/8/2007 4:06:08 PM

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FR Again a question to ask BEFORE you make a commitment to someone.

But plenty of slaves have more than one owner. Or an owner and a spouse. Or an owner and a child. Or an owner and a partner. Or an owner and a slave. Etc, etc.

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RE: One Master - 11/8/2007 4:37:31 PM

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i am thankful that a DOM would be bothered with me.

Must ask...... why??????? Do you feel that you are so worthless????

There are approx 10 Doms to every 1 sub, which means you do not have to settle for the first to come around and expresses an interest in you, that means you can afford to be choosy in selecting a Dom that will suit you. If you want to be passed around to other Doms then by all means you can choose a Dom that has that interest, if you want a monogamous relationship with just one, you can select one that is not into subs for hire(prostituting), giving to other doms, making you participate with other subs(male or female) etc. Just because you are a sub does not mean you have to give away your morals or ethics and remember this lifestyle is suppose to be about consentual slavery not forced, you do have the right to choose what activities to participate in and if the Dom does not agree with you, then he is the wrong one for you

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RE: One Master - 11/8/2007 4:56:04 PM

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There are approx 10 Doms to every 1 sub, which means you do not have to settle for the first to come around and expresses an interest in you, that means you can afford to be choosy in selecting a Dom that will suit you.

Yea, but since 9 out of those 10 Doms are complete douchebags, the numbers game you describe is highly skewed the other way. Any guy with his shit even remotely in one bag is like a kid in a candy store in this slice of life.

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RE: One Master - 11/8/2007 4:57:41 PM

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Whether you should or shouldn't do something depends on the agreement you made. If that point is coming up AFTER ownership (and it really shouldn't as it's pretty basic) then you have the right to stop the relationship if their answer doesn't match what you want.

I have known, and know, slave who are collared by more than one Master.

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RE: One Master - 11/8/2007 5:06:20 PM

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Maya ... that should be ... there are 10 guys who SAY they are Doms to every sub. Finding the gold nugget in the bottom of the stream is the trick!

And Faramir ... on a good day, I like think that I have all of my shit in 1 sock :-) [You don't even wanna hear the instances where I've had patients come in with both boots full!]

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ORIGINAL: Maya2001
There are approx 10 Doms to every 1 sub, which means you do not have to settle for the first to come around and expresses an interest in you, that means you can afford to be choosy in selecting a Dom that will suit you.

Yea, but since 9 out of those 10 Doms are complete douchebags, the numbers game you describe is highly skewed the other way. Any guy with his shit even remotely in one bag is like a kid in a candy store in this slice of life.

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RE: One Master - 11/8/2007 5:31:59 PM

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ORIGINAL: Faramir

Yea, but since 9 out of those 10 Doms are complete douchebags, the numbers game you describe is highly skewed the other way. Any guy with his shit even remotely in one bag is like a kid in a candy store in this slice of life.

Fook!
He's right.