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If amnesty for Illegal Aliens is so wrong... - 11/8/2007 9:46:51 AM

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Why is amnesty for AT&T and Verizon for breaking the law right?

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RE: If amnesty for Illegal Aliens is so wrong... - 11/8/2007 9:58:18 AM

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Most likely it is not right, but just to give evryone a clearer picture, what law did they break, and what rwason was given for the amnesty?

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RE: If amnesty for Illegal Aliens is so wrong... - 11/8/2007 10:03:28 AM

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TITLE 50
CHAPTER 36
SUBCHAPTER I
§ 1809

(a) Prohibited activities
A person is guilty of an offense if he intentionally—
(1) engages in electronic surveillance under color of law except as authorized by statute; or
(2) discloses or uses information obtained under color of law by electronic surveillance, knowing or having reason to know that the information was obtained through electronic surveillance not authorized by statute.
(b) Defense
It is a defense to a prosecution under subsection (a) of this section that the defendant was a law enforcement or investigative officer engaged in the course of his official duties and the electronic surveillance was authorized by and conducted pursuant to a search warrant or court order of a court of competent jurisdiction.
(c) Penalties
An offense described in this section is punishable by a fine of not more than $10,000 or imprisonment for not more than five years, or both.
(d) Federal jurisdiction
There is Federal jurisdiction over an offense under this section if the person committing the offense was an officer or employee of the United States at the time the offense was committed.

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RE: If amnesty for Illegal Aliens is so wrong... - 11/8/2007 10:12:20 AM

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And how did they break this law? i am just curious here, trying to figure out what they are doing, or alleged to be doing that is in violation of this.

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RE: If amnesty for Illegal Aliens is so wrong... - 11/8/2007 10:25:50 AM

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Who says either is 'right'?

The telecoms basically bought their amnesty by helping Bush garner intelligence that was in and of itself most likely unlawful. So, they get amnesty to stop from airing the President's dirty laundry. Not surprising, even if it's not 'right'.

What does that have to with amnesty for illegal aliens, though? Somehow, I don't see any correlation between the two.

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RE: If amnesty for Illegal Aliens is so wrong... - 11/8/2007 10:39:46 AM

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The House looks like they're shooting down any idea the Senate had of any legislation including an Amnesty bill for Illegal Aliens.

Right now, the telcom companies which have permitted the NSA to install optical splitters on their backbones, copying ALL traffic to the Government ( without a warrant ) are lobbying HARD for amnesty from their alleged crimes. The fines could easily bankrupt AT&T.

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RE: If amnesty for Illegal Aliens is so wrong... - 11/8/2007 10:43:25 AM

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Ah ha We all know the reason for that, corporations and dollars in the pockets of politicians are more important than small people.

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RE: If amnesty for Illegal Aliens is so wrong... - 11/8/2007 10:43:41 AM

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Drop the backbone and research for tech in the US, and of course put alot of the administration in jail. A sticky wicket, that.

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