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subs/slaves who want a Black Master/Mistress:What do th... - 11/8/2007 7:23:16 PM   
SirEbonyPhoenix


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Status: offline 		I recently read an e-mail from a slave who seeks a Black Master and although I was flattered by her message, it made me wonder about this: What do some submissives/slaves really want from a Black Master/Mistress? Some, IMHO, usually want sex or in some cases, they want to truly serve them either out of love or to make amends for what their ancestors did centuries ago (when non-consensiual slavery was an institution until it was abolished). And for the record, I'm not asking this to gain wisecracks from those who reply!

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RE: subs/slaves who want a Black Master/Mistress:What d... - 11/8/2007 7:36:27 PM   
mistoferin


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quote:

ORIGINAL: SirEbonyPhoenix
Some, IMHO, usually want sex or in some cases, they want to truly serve them either out of love or to make amends for what their ancestors did centuries ago (when non-consensiual slavery was an institution until it was abolished).


I would think that most subs who are looking for a Master, regardless of color, are probably looking for sex, at least on some level. As to the latter....well, that's just plain F'd up. Why would anyone feel guilty or want to make amends for something that they had no part in? I don't get that.

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RE: subs/slaves who want a Black Master/Mistress:What d... - 11/8/2007 7:40:28 PM   
Shawn1066


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Status: offline 		Strangely, I've seen profiles where submissives claim they want to do just that.  Something seems extremely racist about it, but I dunno.

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RE: subs/slaves who want a Black Master/Mistress:What d... - 11/8/2007 10:42:54 PM   
chellekitty


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Status: offline 		1) almost everyone wants sex
2) there are a few that are actually attracted to black Masters and Mistresses, shocking though it may seem...
3) either you're reading way too much into someone looking to serve a black Master or Mistress or you're getting emails from some really f'ed up people...

personally...i don't want A black Master...i do however happen to want a man who happens to be black and a Daddy (i prefer Daddies over Masters, just a personal thing)...i don't look at him and go ooo a black Daddy, i must have him because he's a black Daddy...i see a person....a whole person...who happens to be a black Daddy...and thats good too...but thats not all he is....

chelle

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RE: subs/slaves who want a Black Master/Mistress:What d... - 11/8/2007 10:51:08 PM   
michaels4evr


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Status: offline 		Most of the people I know looking for this race or that race have an attraction to that race, nothing more. My first Master/second hubby loves Black women. He is Italian. He dated Black women vanilla, and naturally when he got into BDSM, he was most attracted to Black submissives. People are entitled to their preferences imho. Me, I'm equal opportunity..much more to choose from that way.

I have, however, met a couple of submissives who were looking for a Black Master because they awere hoping that a certain stereotype is true...lol

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RE: subs/slaves who want a Black Master/Mistress:What d... - 11/9/2007 1:55:42 AM   
shootingstar67


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Status: offline 		Generally I am more attracted to blacks( in a D/s way) then whites. I have no idea why. But it is not a cultural thing. I have no urge to mske up for past social injustice. Black guys are just more dominant.  They have a more dominant presence. Of course I wouldn't go looking for a black guy deliberately online but in person I am strongly attracted and I want to submit to them.  I fight it though. I am not racist and don't believe any one race is better then the other but I believe there is too much cultural conflict with mixed race marriages.  I learned this from experience. It is true for me, but maybe not true for everyone.

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RE: subs/slaves who want a Black Master/Mistress:What d... - 11/9/2007 6:46:00 AM   
GrayGhost


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Status: offline 		It's just another taboo for some. If it wasn't, then skin color would not come into play, and the person would simply judge each man on his own merits.

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RE: subs/slaves who want a Black Master/Mistress:What d... - 11/9/2007 7:14:06 AM   
Maya2001


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Status: offline 		Could very well be sex, I have heard a number of females say they would rather be with a black male because they are  better endowed

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RE: subs/slaves who want a Black Master/Mistress:What d... - 11/9/2007 7:27:36 AM   
Rule


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Status: offline 		Negroid people are more genetically diverse, if I recall correctly. So going for a black master may enrich the gene pool of the endemic population.

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RE: subs/slaves who want a Black Master/Mistress:What d... - 11/9/2007 9:35:50 AM   
chellekitty


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Status: offline 		not that i want to get into this argument....but i don't believe one race is more genetically diverse than any other...however...if we stopped having children with "just our own race"....and purposely had children with other races...in a couple of hundred years there would be no seperate races....

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RE: subs/slaves who want a Black Master/Mistress:What d... - 11/9/2007 9:43:12 AM   
MasterFireMaam


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Status: offline 		Racial guilt is very common. There's also the aspect of taboo, especially in the South. And, there's the stereotypes that come along with being whatever color you happen to be that may be appealing to some.

I tend to ignore those who contact me and want to serve just because I'm white. I have a lot more attributes.

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RE: subs/slaves who want a Black Master/Mistress:What d... - 11/9/2007 1:49:59 PM   
abda


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Status: offline 		Maya not all black men are well endowed like so many tend to believe.

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RE: subs/slaves who want a Black Master/Mistress:What d... - 11/9/2007 2:34:45 PM   
IrishMist


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Status: offline 		Hmmm... perhaps... and this is a VERY huge long shot... but... just perhaps they really want

a black Master or Mistress

I know... like I said, it was a long shot...

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RE: subs/slaves who want a Black Master/Mistress:What d... - 11/9/2007 9:09:02 PM   
laurell3


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Status: offline 		The better question is why do we have this conversation weekly?  I honestly don't look at race personally, I look at people.  Why others do what they do....how could we know?  Many of them don't even know as evidenced by some of the posts here. 

< Message edited by laurell3 -- 11/9/2007 9:11:40 PM >

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RE: subs/slaves who want a Black Master/Mistress:What d... - 11/9/2007 9:12:27 PM   
dcnovice


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quote:

The better question is why do we have this conversation weekly? 


Gives us a break from debating the difference between a sub and a slave.

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RE: subs/slaves who want a Black Master/Mistress:What d... - 11/9/2007 9:13:58 PM   
laurell3


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quote:

ORIGINAL: dcnovice

quote:

The better question is why do we have this conversation weekly? 


Gives us a break from debating the difference between a sub and a slave.


lol

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RE: subs/slaves who want a Black Master/Mistress:What d... - 11/9/2007 9:16:02 PM   
dcnovice


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Status: offline 		Maybe we could spice things up a bit and start a thread about people who only want overweight black doms.

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RE: subs/slaves who want a Black Master/Mistress:What d... - 11/9/2007 9:16:58 PM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		Why are we not considering the natural inference that subs who say they want a black master really want...a black master?

I see profiles all the time from people who say they want someone Caucasian.  Do we ever ask, Hey, what do people like that "really" want?

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RE: subs/slaves who want a Black Master/Mistress:What d... - 11/9/2007 9:27:57 PM   
BLKMADONA


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Status: offline 		SirEbonyPhoenix I too get that alot from white male subs who "wish to atone for their ancestors misdeeds". I for One as for every freakin body acknowledge it happened. But also on that note if u still live in the past..u will stay in the past and get left behind. The thing is now has anyone LEARNED from the past ( in the general vanilla world)? And if so....step into the future a better wise person. And if u havent-well..as they say..if u aint got it by now..ur never gona get it.


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RE: subs/slaves who want a Black Master/Mistress:What d... - 11/9/2007 9:53:43 PM   
blkm4me


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Status: offline 		in my experience....black masters are more free sexually and have less hang ups...as i  am attracted to black men like  all men are attracted to blondes....no particular analogy why...just are

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