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broken toy repair - 11/9/2007 8:05:42 PM   
dualservice


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i could really benifit from the advice of experienced d's in realtion to a sub i have just taken into my care, a broken toy so to speak.. please email me and i shall respond to you
thanking you with respect to the collars
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RE: broken toy repair - 11/9/2007 10:45:23 PM   
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You are not required to be anyone's therapist, Rescuer, Knight or Martyr. Send him or her to a lisensed therapist if you really want to help...and read up on Archetypes to see how they work with the two of you. Tyring to fix someone will almost always backfire unless they want to be fixed...and in that case, they have to do it all by themselves. You can create an atmosphere that's conducive to this, but you can't do it for them.

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RE: broken toy repair - 11/10/2007 6:44:54 AM   
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I'll second that notion.  Playing doctor for role play can be fun... playing real doctor can be disasterous.  Perhaps there's a kink aware professional near you.
 
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RE: broken toy repair - 11/10/2007 7:20:07 AM   
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I was broken when I found Master. I was close to being dead on the inside I was a mess. He took the time, effort, that whole TLC ~ Tender Loving Care ~ and found the real me. Just because a person is going threw a lot of trauma, or has been threw a lot, doesn't mean you have to toss them to the side. I don't know the story here, but give em a chance, show them that they can be loved, appreciated. Give them what they need to pull threw what ever made them broken. I went threw a lot of changes and Master was there for me every step of the way. He understood that the particular situation wasn't easy for me and I needed time. Sometimes, this is all a person really needs. Everyone is broken on some leve, or was broken at one time or another.... It just depends how broken and how much you are willing to do for them. Doesn't mean you are a doctor, doesn't mean you have to be. If in the end it doesn't work out, nothing else perhaps you can just be a friend to them.
 
But to just toss them to the side with some advice or whatever... well.. to me that's a cheesy move. Least you can do is try, if they want the help.. things will just come as they come. Also depends how you feel about the person to. if you really care, you'll be there for them.
 
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RE: broken toy repair - 11/10/2007 7:45:05 PM   
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It's doable, but it takes a certain skillset that most people don't possess, and lack either the commitment or ability to acquire (or both). Attempting to perform any kind of therapy or "repair" beyond the most trivial is russian roulette without this skillset, and quite irresponsible. I would second the advice given; you should- together- seek out a Kink Aware Professional.

If that's not an option for some reason, you probably shouldn't attempt the relationship in the first place.

If you want a brief taste of the things you will need to assimilate in order to do this, I would recommend reading at least two basic books regarding how the human mind works before considering whether you might be able to acquire the requisite skillset for yourself. Those two books (and they're unlikely to suffice by themselves) would be the following:
  • "Behavior Therapy and Beyond" by Arnold Lazarus.
  • "How the Mind Works" by Stephen Pinker.
Reading those two, you should have some idea of the complexity of the subject, although they're by no means comprehensive, and will not impart the skills required. To reiterate, you should seek professional assistance.

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RE: broken toy repair - 11/11/2007 11:09:21 AM   
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  If you wish to take the time to attempt to 'fix' the toy yourself, be patient, show compassion,  right now remember they need to be built back up before you even play or it could end with them in a breakdown they might not recover from.  Again this might be time consuming but well worth it if you feel they worthy of your collar.

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RE: broken toy repair - 11/11/2007 12:32:45 PM   
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Greetings dualservice,

i could have been considered a broken toy, when my Master picked me up. He has not tried to be my therapist, nor a doctor. He has simply provided a place where i can be me, where i am valued as i am and given unconditional affection. That in itself is a rare thing... to know that no matter what you do, you still have value, are still worthy.

i am coming out of an 18 year marriage that was the vanilla equivalent of a TPE with an abusive Dom. During those years, i lost two sons -- one at 6 months due to a congenital heart defect and one this past June to a bike/car accident. These past few weeks have brought me to both of those boys' birthdays, with the grief and loss brought to the forefront.

my Master did not need to do anything but listen and provide a shoulder to cry on. i am glad He did not pass on me, or think i would be too much trouble.

From the toy's POV, i ask You to take a chance. Professional help may be needed but without the support and comfort that can be provided outside that office, all the therapy in the world is not going to do much good. You don't have to have all the answers, You *can't* make it all go away and 'fix' it. But You can be the rock Your toy needs to make it through.

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RE: broken toy repair - 11/12/2007 6:03:30 AM   
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i do not your your situation, or what kind of troubles your 'toy' has had, though as stated earlier, 'fixing' someone is a very time-consuming commitment.  And, since no one else added it, i feel that i should.  Depending on what exactly the troubles stem from is, some people don't need to be 'fixed' they are just craving to be accepted as what they have become, though that may not apply to you, since nothing is explained directly.  Just throwing that out there

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RE: broken toy repair - 11/13/2007 3:29:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dualservice

i could really benifit from the advice of experienced d's in realtion to a sub i have just taken into my care, a broken toy so to speak.. please email me and i shall respond to you thanking you with respect to the collars


If it's the pinky finger, splint it.  If it's something more, ask yourself why you did it.

I suppose it could be worse.  It could be a sub taking on a 'broken' Master...


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The toy, boxed. - 11/13/2007 11:29:13 PM   
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You might as well have the cake your friends prematurely nibbled taken down to Roy's Food Repair.

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RE: broken toy repair - 11/16/2007 4:38:26 AM   
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Dear dualservice, Ladies and Gentlemen,
 
First, I wish to express my way of viewing slaves as to give a foundation for what words and actions I speak.
 
I never consider a slave and or a human being -- a toy.  For me the use of the word toy, means easy to dispose of, abandon and or casually interact with, low maintaining and needs no feeding as well as an object to which lacks 'life' unless the battery supplies it and or humane effort and or energy.  This is my foundation statement for what I further have to comment on.
 
That said, I am of the belief that individuals to whom feel 'broken' and or disguarded, trashed and kicked to the curb, hurting, depressed, low self esteem and other behaviors that promote another person to 'assume' and or 'observe' as being 'broken.'
 
Life is cruel and unfair.  Sometimes relationships go sour and or abusive--things go wrong.
 
I highly recommend being 'humble' in the ability as a Dominant to 'fix' things --to include people and or situations.  There are many who identify as a healer or someone who can coax someone back from the black hole of depression, emotional distress and or destructive judgments about themselves and or the lack of a fighting spirit.
 
Unlike the readers of your post, to include myself -- there is just a generalized request to find help to fix a broken toy.  In this case you are the best observer and perhaps it is best to be the supportive individual to listen, to show compassion and help problem solve the situation the slave is struggling with.  To some people think having flaws means that they are broken.  To me flaws sometimes adds character.  It is my belief, that asking the slave who feels broken on how you as a person--not just a Dominant can help them best.  Perhaps it is a much needed hug for a long period of time.  Perhaps it is listening to the rant, the expression with anger and fury--to perhaps have a slave acknowledge you as a Master and take on the needed role as to really provide closure by making an apology for a Master who will not, cannot and or refuses to--doing what is needed to help close the wounds inflicted by another as to start a new chapter in their life as a slave.  Although you were not the cause--it is an amazing power to apologize to a hurting slave.  Until then, some slaves beat themselves up and remain in a stewing pot--blaming themselves and or excusing their past Master(s) for their behaviors and such.
 
I also wish to say, that sometimes it requires more than what a kind, compassionate and loving enviorment, Master and or the healing affect/effect.  Sometimes it takes a mental health professional as to detangle the wires and make sense of things.  This is where a Dominant needs to be humble and know their limits.  Otherwise, there could be more damage than helping.  The mind is amazing and its also a maze.
 
In summary, I feel how words are used can either re-enforce the perception of the person one deals with.  To place a human being at the level of a toy might be the worst choice of words.
Yet, for those who are not dealing with issues of past, present and perhaps future--such as expectation anxiety, fear, phobia--toy could be used in a safe way.  Understanding how our words are understood or the perception others have--helps in the communications.
 
That said, there will be cases where individuals create constant drama as to be controlling, manipulate and have a Dominant's attention. So, it is important to wade through the muck to find out the roots of what is taking place.
 
Just some thoughts.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs
 
 
 
 

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