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The Dog Whisperer - 11/10/2007 3:59:52 PM   
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Anyone else watch this show and learn an awful lot from it?

Cesar says "in a submissive state the mind is open and ready to be taught".
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RE: The Dog Whisperer - 11/10/2007 4:19:20 PM   
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I love that show and every time I watch it I think that guy would make an amazing Dominant. I know a guy who is a horse whisperer and he has that same sort of....effect.

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RE: The Dog Whisperer - 11/10/2007 4:20:11 PM   
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I love that show and every time I watch it I think that guy would make an amazing Dominant. I know a guy who is a horse whisperer and he has that same sort of....effect.


If you've seen Cesar in the presence of his wife you can tell who's the dominant in that relationship. And it's not him :)
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RE: The Dog Whisperer - 11/10/2007 4:23:31 PM   
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I'd bark for that man. Good gracious. What a gorgeous creature ... and that accent.

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RE: The Dog Whisperer - 11/10/2007 4:25:21 PM   
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Yup. I've mentioned it a couple of times here and figured folks might have thought I was joking, but I wasn't. He uses all kinds of tactics that work equally well with people such as being assertive without being aggessive and distracting a mind that might be focused on the "wrong" thing so you can get it where you want. Good stuff for sure!

Now, sit up and beg. heh.


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RE: The Dog Whisperer - 11/10/2007 4:27:20 PM   
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Pant, pant, pant!

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RE: The Dog Whisperer - 11/10/2007 5:38:51 PM   
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I wrack disciprine... (Cartman from South Park: Nanny/ Dog Whisperer episode)

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RE: The Dog Whisperer - 11/10/2007 5:43:07 PM   
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I love it
we have dog whisperer sit ins with cups of tea here in lil old england

he can come and put me on a leash any day


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RE: The Dog Whisperer - 11/10/2007 5:45:00 PM   
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Anyone else watch this show and learn an awful lot from it?

Cesar says "in a submissive state the mind is open and ready to be taught".

actually its really the dog owners he trains

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RE: The Dog Whisperer - 11/10/2007 6:06:11 PM   
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Okay I am the dissenter here

Sorry but as owner of 4 dogs plus have been raising dogs since a child, and after 40 years of watching how dogs interact together in a pack,    I say  the man if full of crap and does not understand dominance nor the alpha roleand he confuses aggression with dominance,   his concept lies along the line in human term as the alpha being  of machoman bully or wife batterer who rules through fear of abuse and has series of very strict unbending rules to follow, and breach of them then discipline is dished out regardless of reason.   Most alpha dominant dogs rarely ever use agression, they are the most intelligent of the pack they use their brains instead to resolve  and rarely need agression because they have earned the love and  respect of their pack,  so the pack is happy to follow and obey, there is very little rules but the ones they deem important are enforced they allow leeway, they do not always expect to have the favorite bed or thru a doorway first, but the others will sense when the alpha needs and move out of the way to allow the alpha to have, the alpha is fair in dealings with underling  and is tolerant , and if one of the others has strong skills in a certain area they all that dog to take over that task without interference.   My  former alpha dog  passed away  almost 5 years ago  and she was the one that taught me a lot about what dominance means, when she passed away the male dog  grieved for several months afterward he had to assume control of the pack but he does not have that natural inborn talent to lead there he is constantely griping at the others he tries to lay claim and rights with growls and snaps and chasing but the others view him as unfair and weak therefore challenge him, something that Callie had problems with because the pack respected her as the leader and it was easy to bring in foster dogs then she would spend all of 2 minutes letting them know she was the boss sometimes with one alpha roll that would be all that is took  they would then watch her for cues on what to do for what was allowed or not,  but Callie accept me as her dominant  she more of less took over the role of general in charge of the troops which freed up my reponsibilities, with the male in charge of the pack  that is not the case I still have to oversee and be the peacekeeper.  that is another problem with Cesar Millan he is so into the macho headspace he tends to believe that only males are alphas,  but from all the dogs I have seen through my years of rescue/placemnt  and fostering I have seen about equal numbers and if a dominant male and female are placed together in a pack they split the duties, but when it comes to something they both want the male will tend to give way to the female rather than start a fight

true natural dominance can be found in world leaders such as J F Kennedy, Gandhi, Suddam Hussein, Winston Churchill,    where G W Bush may be the powerful agressive bully but he is not a true natural dominant leader, the difference is the respect that comes from below him.   where you have bullies leading or ineffective leaders/dominants  there is  a dissention, strong division   amongst the ranks of those below.  

 

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RE: The Dog Whisperer - 11/10/2007 6:08:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: batshalom

I'd bark for that man. Good gracious. What a gorgeous creature ... and that accent.


A-Freakin'-Men! He is hella hot!


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RE: The Dog Whisperer - 11/10/2007 6:16:16 PM   
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I say the man is an absolute genius, and his methods work, when you actually "get" what he's really saying.  I use his techniques all the time successfully.  I've watched the show for 3 years now, from the very beginning, and have never seen him use "aggression", quite the opposite.

Oh yeah....he's freakin' hot, too!

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RE: The Dog Whisperer - 11/10/2007 7:44:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TNstepsout

Anyone else watch this show and learn an awful lot from it?

Cesar says "in a submissive state the mind is open and ready to be taught".


Ceasers guest appearance on South Park to train Cartman was funny. It had me thinking a thought or two about training. 

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RE: The Dog Whisperer - 11/11/2007 1:16:12 AM   
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~chuckling at Maya~

Chamomile?

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RE: The Dog Whisperer - 11/11/2007 1:35:22 AM   
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I saw about 5-6 of his shows. I also read an interview with him and did not find him to be aggressive or male macho crap. I missed that aspect anyway if it was there. I love my dog immensely. I rescued her from a horrible reality and it is only now over a decade later that she is more chillaxed than she could ever be before, she still freaks at noise and thunder, shakes and trembles, cannot calm down very well. I am her alpha. She listens so well to me for the most part. She is not afraid of me, she trusts me and I am very proud of that. I havent abused her and from what I saw of Cesar he is not abusive or condescending to animals either. I dont follow all that he says, I let my dog walk in front of me for example. Sometimes I make her stay beside me and she will, but she is such a sweetheart I dont have a problem with her being ahead of me, it doesnt create a problem.

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RE: The Dog Whisperer - 11/11/2007 2:36:52 AM   
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geeeeez Maya........have you actually watched the show????
talk about having different perspectives.

I watch it all the time and haven't seen what you describe..
.....sure you are not confusing him with dog the bounty hunter ? LOLOL
but, heck, we are all entitled to our perspectives and opinions..
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his "energy and connection" are amazing..
 
I agree Prinsexx...  he actually "trains" the humans.
The dogs are just doing what comes naturally to them.

 

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RE: The Dog Whisperer - 11/11/2007 2:38:41 AM   
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The show definitely proves most dog owners are dopes.

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RE: The Dog Whisperer - 11/11/2007 4:17:44 AM   
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He is not aggressive or abusive ever. I've only seen him appear angry and lose patience one time, and that was with an owner! In fact it's his mantra of clam assertive that is one of the things I like best about him.

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RE: The Dog Whisperer - 11/11/2007 4:29:46 AM   
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I don't think he's all that either ... I know people in the areas where he works, and they've had to re-train dogs that he's worked with (and that includes re-training the owners) because of mistakes that he's made, plus there is the issues of the dogs that have been killed while on his 'ranch' due to mishandling/neglect by his employees (who use the techniques that he trains).

Now, I do watch the show from time to time - but it's more to see if he finally gets his face ripped off by a dog for doing some of the silly things that he does.

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RE: The Dog Whisperer - 11/11/2007 5:24:43 AM   
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I don't think he's all that either ... I know people in the areas where he works, and they've had to re-train dogs that he's worked with (and that includes re-training the owners) because of mistakes that he's made, plus there is the issues of the dogs that have been killed while on his 'ranch' due to mishandling/neglect by his employees (who use the techniques that he trains).

Now, I do watch the show from time to time - but it's more to see if he finally gets his face ripped off by a dog for doing some of the silly things that he does.


I'd be really curious to see actual evidence or documentation of any dogs that were killed by mishandling or neglect while under Cesar's care.

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