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TNstepsout -> RE: Just out of interest why do you ladies dominate for money (11/12/2007 5:18:29 PM)
All I can say is that with that attitude you better be glad there are women who will do it for money.

LadyLegs -> RE: Just out of interest why do you ladies dominate for money (11/12/2007 7:22:18 PM)
Wanker, the truth of the matter is we have a sliding scale based on how much we like you. You have moved yourself to the expensive end of that scale.

cloudboy -> RE: Just out of interest why do you ladies dominate for money (11/12/2007 7:22:46 PM)
Social skills play a role with malesubs, but the ratio of less femdoms to more malesubs is a concrete fact. These skewed numbers play a greater, more tangible role than your more speculative malesub character flaw analysis. As for me, I've never met a malesub who had "no problems" finding a femdom.

LadyHibiscus -> RE: Just out of interest why do you ladies dominate for money (11/12/2007 7:33:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy Social skills play a role with malesubs, but the ratio of less femdoms to more malesubs is a concrete fact. These skewed numbers play a greater, more tangible role than your more speculative malesub character flaw analysis. As for me, I've never met a malesub who had "no problems" finding a femdom. Yet you are married and have a Mistress as well, am I right? In spite of this, you come across as being bitter at best. Remarkable.

FullfigRIMaam -> RE: Just out of interest why do you ladies dominate for money (11/12/2007 7:55:41 PM)
What should they dominate for? Cheese? quote: Najakcharmer ORIGINAL: AAkasha Why is it that some subs have no problems meeting partners and/or finding vanilla women who are open to kink or willing to give it a try - and then there are subs who say they have searched high and low and cannot find anyone to even give them a second look except pros? Pretty much because they're assholes and don't care anything at all about the woman they want to use as an object for their fetish satisfaction. The person behind the tits and the whip doesn't matter to them as long as they get what they want. And they're just not mature enough or smart enough to realize that their attitude is a huge turnoff and makes them nothing but an annoying, selfish, bothersome pain in the ass who is No Fun to play with. LOL, that just made me laugh, I don't know why... M

LadyPact -> RE: Just out of interest why do you ladies dominate for money (11/12/2007 8:10:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DiannaVesta OMG here we go again. It never seems to end, does it? Hey, it wasn't Me this time.

kc692 -> RE: Just out of interest why do you ladies dominate for money (11/12/2007 9:31:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FullfigRIMaam What should they dominate for? Cheese? quote: Najakcharmer ORIGINAL: AAkasha Why is it that some subs have no problems meeting partners and/or finding vanilla women who are open to kink or willing to give it a try - and then there are subs who say they have searched high and low and cannot find anyone to even give them a second look except pros? Pretty much because they're assholes and don't care anything at all about the woman they want to use as an object for their fetish satisfaction. The person behind the tits and the whip doesn't matter to them as long as they get what they want. And they're just not mature enough or smart enough to realize that their attitude is a huge turnoff and makes them nothing but an annoying, selfish, bothersome pain in the ass who is No Fun to play with. LOL, that just made me laugh, I don't know why... M Ummm, M, I want smoked gouda!!!![:D]

CollegeConundrum -> RE: Just out of interest why do you ladies dominate for money (11/12/2007 10:02:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: wankerforuse and not for the love of it? As in my mind a proper domme does it for the love of it as it is in her blood something that is natural to her being dominant that is,cause it's in her genes her genetic makeup.A lady who does if for money is nothing more than an oscar nominated actress in my opinion,and not a dominant lady at all.She's just a money making machine. The same reason prostitutes charge for sex. I love to fuck but if I could get paid for it, you bet the shit I would.

liks2plzlf -> RE: Just out of interest why do you ladies dominate for money (11/12/2007 10:06:35 PM)
I am saving my money GDG. Could I get a cheaper weakly rate? Monthly!!

cloudboy -> RE: Just out of interest why do you ladies dominate for money (11/12/2007 10:07:23 PM)
I prefer to think of myself a vehement. (Some say pugnacious.) Although I like Najackcharmer a lot and have issues with Aakasha --- it seems to me you've given them a free pass. To wit: "As you go down the scale and the subs become more bitter, more demanding, more self righteuous, they more likely they are going to have limited options. They will have to pay, because no one will want to engage with them or spend time with them, because they are not likable. Then you go to the lowest scale, and that's the men that won't even get a woman to dominate him even if he pays. Yes, there are men that bad. Mostly it's attitude and the vibe they throw off. The more demanding, the more self righteous, the more bitter = the less likely they will get a woman to want to seduce him." --Aakasha To wit: "Pretty much because they're assholes and don't care anything at all about the woman they want to use as an object for their fetish satisfaction. The person behind the tits and the whip doesn't matter to them as long as they get what they want. And they're just not mature enough or smart enough to realize that their attitude is a huge turnoff and makes them nothing but an annoying, selfish, bothersome pain in the ass who is No Fun to play with." -- Najackcharmer Please compare that to what I wrote....if you would. A high percentage of malesubs are "losers" because the numbers dictate about a 50-70% failure rate out of the gate. Given this demographic, I don't see a need to pile on about them and their horrible attitudes and losing personalities. This is otherwise known as "blaming the victim." See also the JUST WORLD THEORY.

FullfigRIMaam -> RE: Just out of interest why do you ladies dominate for money (11/12/2007 10:31:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kc692 Ummm, M, I want smoked gouda!!!![:D] Yeah, but what would you do for it?! [8D] M

FullfigRIMaam -> RE: Just out of interest why do you ladies dominate for money (11/12/2007 10:32:35 PM)
Cloudboy, if you were on the receiving end of some of the emails or face to face suggestions, you wouldn't think of male subs as victims at all. M

cyberdude611 -> RE: Just out of interest why do you ladies dominate for money (11/12/2007 10:52:23 PM)
What is giving all dommes a bad rep is the sudden influx of so-called "money dommes" who have little to no interest in bdsm and are simply looking for free and easy money. So it starts to look like all dommes only care about money. As for the artist, actor, athlete, painter analogy... I dont buy it. That's a talent or a skill. Plus an actor doesn't go to a theater and say "pay me if you want to talk to me." They get thrown out the door. An artist doesn't say, "pay me before you can look at my artwork." An athlete doesnt go to a professional team and tell the coach to "pay me and I'll show you what I can do."

catleggs -> RE: Just out of interest why do you ladies dominate for money (11/12/2007 11:44:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cyberdude611 As for the artist, actor, athlete, painter analogy... I dont buy it. That's a talent or a skill. Plus an actor doesn't go to a theater and say "pay me if you want to talk to me." They get thrown out the door. An artist doesn't say, "pay me before you can look at my artwork." An athlete doesnt go to a professional team and tell the coach to "pay me and I'll show you what I can do." Oh, let's see, being a professional domme doesn't demand any talent or skill to be sucessful, eh? LOL What an idiot.

MistressT01 -> RE: Just out of interest why do you ladies dominate for money (11/13/2007 12:07:43 AM)
I can only answer for myself. It gives me almost the same feeling as any other kind of domination that I am doing. It is one of the two main ways to say complete control. A lot of subs feel the majority of their power is from their money, well what do you think I want power of? There are certain subs that have a masochism tendancy when it comes to money, for them it is a higher form of humiliation. I will agree with the other Dommes, the more of a pain in the ass the sub is regardless of what kind of sub he is, if he really wants my time he will pay for me to deal with him.

jj292 -> RE: Just out of interest why do you ladies dominate for money (11/13/2007 12:17:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: catleggs quote: ORIGINAL: cyberdude611 As for the artist, actor, athlete, painter analogy... I dont buy it. That's a talent or a skill. Plus an actor doesn't go to a theater and say "pay me if you want to talk to me." They get thrown out the door. An artist doesn't say, "pay me before you can look at my artwork." An athlete doesnt go to a professional team and tell the coach to "pay me and I'll show you what I can do." Oh, let's see, being a professional domme doesn't demand any talent or skill to be sucessful, eh? LOL What an idiot. I dont think that was his point.... he was saying that an artist, an athlete, or anyone with a talent or skill does not demand payment just to talk. Which many dommes do. So it is a bad comparison. Thats like a clerk demanding payment before you go into a store to see if you are a serious consumer and not just a window-shopper. And male doms dont demand tribute for their "talent and skill." Money has become a female thing in this lifestyle.

Sekhemet -> RE: Just out of interest why do you ladies dominate for money (11/13/2007 12:26:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cyberdude611 What is giving all dommes a bad rep is the sudden influx of so-called "money dommes" who have little to no interest in bdsm and are simply looking for free and easy money. So it starts to look like all dommes only care about money. As for the artist, actor, athlete, painter analogy... I dont buy it. That's a talent or a skill. Plus an actor doesn't go to a theater and say "pay me if you want to talk to me." They get thrown out the door. An artist doesn't say, "pay me before you can look at my artwork." An athlete doesnt go to a professional team and tell the coach to "pay me and I'll show you what I can do." Yes they do. People are paid for interviwes, and signing days. You don't watch a movie THEN pay for ticket; you are asked to pay first, and I might remind; not all shows are good. You pay for entry to the concert first - THEN you see the band. You buy a ticket or TV & cable and THEN you see the game ... And your team often loses. You pay admission to the gallery ... and then you take the tour. You order McDonald's and pay before you eat ... But at the steak house they trust you to be able to afford it. Dress codes help, credit cards on reservations help too ... Ah but then ... do you ever TIP them at McDonald's - would you at the SteakHouse ... and why not a Lady then ...? Your sense is not there; true non-sense!!! #1 reason - Numbers ... The floodgates have to be closed somehow - deluges are not fun. #2 reason - Attitudes ... As mentioned some people are most costly emotionally to deal with. #3 reason - Quality/Celebrity ... Some are good enough and confident enough ... like the basement artist compared to the Louvre artist ... the local playhouse actor VS the Hollywood variety. The playhouse actor is not deluged by celebrity, the Hollywood one, needs some help with things. Entourages go hand in hand with popularity or importance, insulation as well - the more important or popular someone is, the more effort to be near them. #4 reason - Finances ... it costs a LOT of cash to cater to your desires ... clothing, equipment and the like are not free, things also do not last indefinitely ... they do need replacing, fixing, rebuilding etc. #5 reason - Undeniability ... it says much about you, and the truth of one's servility. There are those who would be honoured to give double, and then there are those always crying for "cuts" ... who do you think is around a year later, and likely has a bed in the house somewhere? #6 reason - It's hot ... it's risky ... it's fun ... and it's outside the lines - For outside the lines kind of Ladies it only makes sense ... doesn't it? #7 reason ... Wardrobe ... I mean no one but a Dame dresses ... like a Dame ... it's just the way it is. This allows a full time wardrobe rather than a part time interest. #8 reason ... Time served ... what better way to get in the practice, to learn hands on and to be working with variables? PLUS hey, being paid at the same time; who would complain!? #9 reason ... Posers or Pro ... you say the weekend Ladies are posers and players, and the pro's are money grubbers, but in the end only one side of the argument will ever come out ahead ... "The difference between having nothing and a sack ... is still having the sack." #10 ... Reason ... Was this one given permission to ask personal questions, or is it simply pushing the patience of all the Ladies present? *A Lady doesn't need a reason - only a desire.* Reality is a bag of jelly belly beans ... Careful the flavours you mix. XxoxX

ManOfAdventures -> RE: Just out of interest why do you ladies dominate for money (11/13/2007 12:36:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: wankerforuse and not for the love of it? As in my mind a proper domme does it for the love of it as it is in her blood something that is natural to her being dominant that is,cause it's in her genes her genetic makeup.A lady who does if for money is nothing more than an oscar nominated actress in my opinion,and not a dominant lady at all.She's just a money making machine. Because they can...

catleggs -> RE: Just out of interest why do you ladies dominate for money (11/13/2007 1:05:50 AM)
[/quote] I dont think that was his point.... he was saying that an artist, an athlete, or anyone with a talent or skill does not demand payment just to talk. Which many dommes do. So it is a bad comparison. Thats like a clerk demanding payment before you go into a store to see if you are a serious consumer and not just a window-shopper. And male doms dont demand tribute for their "talent and skill." Money has become a female thing in this lifestyle. [/quote] Oh really? Try talking to a lawyer for free, doctor, etc. Yep, there are free conseltations, dommes offer those too, but it doesn't go on forever. Your comparisons are rediculous, like apples and oranges. To be successful in any business you have to consider supply and demand. Every professional does it, thats part of how they gage their worth, value, etc. There are professional male doms, not as many, true, but then again you have to look at the demand.

MisPandora -> RE: Just out of interest why do you ladies dominate for money (11/13/2007 1:08:59 AM)
Just out of interest, why do you guys continue to ask these same imbecelic questions about prodoms over and over again?

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