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RE: Student claims Hillary camp plants questions - 11/13/2007 8:47:01 PM   
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i worked closely as a volunteer with the campaign managers of state-wide office races in Florida, which has to be one of the most dirty tricks states in the union.  i never, ever heard of using plants in dicussions or debates.
 

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        You're kidding, right Pinks?  This has to be one of the oldest plays in the political book.  It's not even considered a trick, just standard procedure.  My God, they even handed Lisa her question for the candidate on an early episode of the Simpsons.

     Let me guess, your candidate lost? 

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RE: Student claims Hillary camp plants questions - 11/13/2007 8:58:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		    How do we know it`s not one of those "collage republicans",playing the agent provocateur?By claiming that something sinister went down,when is was something innocent.

That`s very possible.


Discussing the questions and subjects before the meeting, is a far cry from giving audience members,written questions.Something that the bushies do,and have done ,for 7 years.

Waiting to hear the outrage about that..........

This doesn`t sound like a plant.We know what those are.This sounds more like story about good communications,with a right-wing spin.



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RE: Student claims Hillary camp plants questions - 11/13/2007 9:04:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Actually putting "plants" in a audience is a very old practice.  The candiate and I am sure Hillary had them is a cheat sheet of standard answers to those very questions.  It keeps the candiate constant on the issues, especial those issues that are the central to their campain.  Is it a dirty trick, you bet it is, and that is why Hillary Clinton used it.

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RE: Student claims Hillary camp plants questions - 11/13/2007 9:18:14 PM   
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First off, anyone who thinks Bush is the worst president we have ever had is extremely ignorant of history. Warren Harding, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, and Grant were all worse just to name a few.

In what way, worse?


Carter screwed up the Iran hostage crisis and also put forth an economic policy that created a bigger housing crisis than we are going through right now. Interest rates were in the mid-teens.
Nixon was part of the Watergate conspiracy and coverup.
Harding was elected and basically appointed criminals to high positions and his administration was filled with corruption. Read up on the "Ohio Gang" and the "Teapot Dome" scandal. There numerous other minor scandals as well.
Grant was a good civil war general but historians seem to agree he may be the worst president in US history. Grant was believed to even have a hand in several bank robberies. Money seemed to go missing. People on Wall Street that were manipulating the market. And the whole presidency was rocked with scandal after scandal.



You have no idea what you`re talking about.
Considering you weren`t born yet,all you have is google and some history books.You have no idea what you`re talking about.

Carter didn`t screw up anything.The hostages came out alive and well.You`re all wet about the housing crisis thing and according to republicans/neo-cons,the president has nothing to do with interest rates,or inflation rates,etc.


If we had listened to this most insightful of men,we would be well on the way towards energy independence and cleaner sources of energy.We wouldn`t have to fight for oil,like we are now.Carter stands head and shoulder above Ragen and the Bushes.And he was honest.



Ragen removing the solar panels from the white house,was as much a symbolic gesture(regarding energy policy)as it was anything else .

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RE: Student claims Hillary camp plants questions - 11/13/2007 9:28:12 PM   
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Carter stands head and shoulder above Regan and the Bushes.



                

      444 days.   Double digit inflation and interest rates.  Driven from office in a landslide.  Head and shoulders up his own ass more likely.

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RE: Student claims Hillary camp plants questions - 11/13/2007 9:28:41 PM   
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    It must be that 'vast right-wing conspiracy' again...




Nope.
I don`t think Richard Mellon Scaife,
had anything to do with this.
Keep your right-wing conspiracies straight...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/scaifemain050299.htm

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RE: Student claims Hillary camp plants questions - 11/13/2007 9:42:34 PM   
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Carter stands head and shoulder above Ragen and the Bushes.



            

  444 days.   Double digit inflation and interest rates.  Driven from office in a landslide.  Head and shoulders up his own ass more likely.


So you brave guys woulda went in blasting,like in Iraq.
Good move.There`s no doubt you would have fucked up just as bad as bush has in Iraq.


And you neo-cons claim that the podus has nothing to do with interest rates,or the economy,etc.emmm That`s why ya`ll can`t explain bush`s piss poor performance, running away screaming like little girls,instead of  manning up and admitting that bush is an economic fuck up.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2007/11/report_hidden_cost_of_wars_pus.html

And Carter didn`t campaign(Ragen went full out,plus the dirty trix).Who else would have been so selfless?
Certainly not the neo-cons.

He is a good man,with integrity and principal.He has more integrity in just his pinky ,than the entire republican party put together.

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RE: Student claims Hillary camp plants questions - 11/13/2007 9:54:39 PM   
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Actually putting "plants" in a audience is a very old practice.  The candiate and I am sure Hillary had them is a cheat sheet of standard answers to those very questions.  It keeps the candiate constant on the issues, especial those issues that are the central to their campain.  Is it a dirty trick, you bet it is, and that is why Hillary Clinton used it.


Nosathro, that's the problem. No-one seems to know where Hillary Clinton stands on different issues because she won't answer questions.

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RE: Student claims Hillary camp plants questions - 11/13/2007 9:58:17 PM   
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And Carter didn`t campaign



       Really?  Are you sure he wasn't just as shitty at that as he was as President?  I'd swear I remember Reagan cleaning his clock in the debate.

    (Oh, FYI, Regan was a Cabinet officer, Reagan was the President.  The preferred spelling for partisan hacks who hate more than they think is Raygun.) 

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RE: Student claims Hillary camp plants questions - 11/13/2007 10:07:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hillary is going to be slaughtered in the presidential debates next year. She cant avoid the tough questions forever.

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RE: Student claims Hillary camp plants questions - 11/13/2007 10:18:32 PM   
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Hillary is going to be slaughtered in the presidential debates next year. She cant avoid the tough questions forever.


By who? Wudy?ha-ha Mitt?he-he The old guy w/ the hot wife?lol

The reason why ya`ll hate the lady so much,is ya`ll can`t stand getting beat up by a girl.lol


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RE: Student claims Hillary camp plants questions - 11/13/2007 10:20:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		       By that time, she'll have her positions pretty well settled in and once the primaries are past she'll be able to safely piss off the hard left who won't vote Repub no matter what.

      I'd say the bigger danger for Hilary is getting genuinely angry with the cameras rolling.  She comes across as such a shrieking hag, but everybody knows how her husband fucked around on her, so we know it doesn't mean much. 

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RE: Student claims Hillary camp plants questions - 11/13/2007 10:25:12 PM   
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RE: Student claims Hillary camp plants questions - 11/13/2007 10:27:51 PM   
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      By that time, she'll have her positions pretty well settled in and once the primaries are past she'll be able to safely piss off the hard left who won't vote Repub no matter what.

     I'd say the bigger danger for Hilary is getting genuinely angry with the cameras rolling.  She comes across as such a shrieking hag, but everybody knows how her husband fucked around on her, so we know it doesn't mean much. 


Weren`t you guys just chiding her for giggling  to much?

Which is it? The angry shrieker or the giggler?

Could ya`ll make up your minds or at least stay w/ the same set of talking points for more than a week?


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RE: Student claims Hillary camp plants questions - 11/13/2007 10:38:13 PM   
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   "You guys???"  Sorry O59, you don't get to tell me what my positions are.  Please don't get me confused with what you are told they say on talk radio.

    Giggly???  That never would have occured to me.  Are we talking about back when Bill didn't inhale or something???

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RE: Student claims Hillary camp plants questions - 11/13/2007 10:39:28 PM   
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    < looks around >

"You guys???"  Sorry O59, you don't get to tell me what my positions are.  Please don't get me confused with what you are told they say on talk radio.

  Giggly???  That never would have occured to me.  Are we talking about back when Bill didn't inhale or something???


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sorry,you all look alike,to me.

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RE: Student claims Hillary camp plants questions - 11/13/2007 10:43:18 PM   
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sorry,you all look alike,to me.


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      Don't blind prejudices make life so much easier??  Just drink the flavor-aid and repeat, 'Republicans Baa-aaad.'

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RE: Student claims Hillary camp plants questions - 11/13/2007 10:49:07 PM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poUEHzPOiMk




         Hehehehehe.  That horrible Neo-Con Jon Stewart...  

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RE: Student claims Hillary camp plants questions - 11/14/2007 12:13:49 AM   
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It doesn't matter who runs against her, she's un-electable.
If the Democrats nominate her the Republicans are going to be very happy!

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RE: Student claims Hillary camp plants questions - 11/14/2007 1:13:29 AM   
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