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RE: Status and Dominants - 11/15/2007 9:05:26 AM

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ORIGINAL: shootingstar67

This is a question for submissives/slaves/bottoms. There is a different version of this question in the "ask a Master" section.

When you seek a new relationship, do seek someone of equal social status, What about below you? Above you?

Social status means nothing to me for various reasons.

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Why? Is your preference due to how you were raised or was it personal experience?

Personal preference and how I was raised.

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As a submissive/slave do you find it easier to submit to a person who is in a dominant social position?

No.

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RE: Status and Dominants - 11/15/2007 5:56:51 PM

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greetings shootingstar,

i don't particularly care. i prefer to submit to people who are financially and emotionally secure and self-sufficient, but where they fall in the social hierarchy means very little to me, as long as they are capable of handling themselves. that said, there are certain interests that i have that lead me to be more attracted to, say, professors rather than electricians, but that's just because of what i enjoy doing and talking about, not because of the relative status or wealth of a professor versus an electrician.

i was raised at a low socioeconomic status, and my mother always wanted me to marry someone wealthy and go to school to be a doctor or a programmer or something like that. the result: i study religion and my master is financially comfortable but by no means affluent (and i will probably be much more highly educated, at least formally, than he is, once it's all said and done - although he is very intelligent and an expert at what he does for a living). coming from a poor background, and knowing that my mother was raised in an even poorer background, i can understand her concerns...but i have discovered that there are many things that are important to me in a person, and socioeconomic status just isn't one of them.

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RE: Status and Dominants - 11/15/2007 7:08:34 PM

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I don't really care either way about social status. Obviously, I don't think I would purposefully date a jobless bum, but that is more intelligence talking than any kink. He would have to at least be attempting to better hmself, otherwise I wouldn't really consider a guy to be in a fit state to deal with a sub if he can't even take care of himself.

So socially, not really. But I really must have a Dom who is more intelligent and mature than I am, else a relationship would just not work.

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RE: Status and Dominants - 11/15/2007 7:22:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: shootingstar67

This is a question for submissives/slaves/bottoms. There is a different version of this question in the "ask a Master" section.

When you seek a new relationship, do seek someone of equal social status, What about below you? Above you?

Why? Is your preference due to how you were raised or was it personal experience?

As a submissive/slave do you find it easier to submit to a person who is in a dominant social position?

I guess I don't know what below me or above me means. When I first started my career I believed making money was what was important, about a decade later I had alot of money, but a lot of misery too. I chose to do something beneficial for much less money, does that make me lower?

Education is not as important as intelligence. Career success is not as important as determination. Financial success is not as important as perseverance. Standing in society is not as important as decency. Qualities are what matter to me, the actual people, not their stuff or what joe blow from the society register thinks of them, I'm not sleeping with society.

That having been said, I often, but not always, find myself in situations where I am with people that have a measure of success in life because we have similar paths and similar interests.

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RE: Status and Dominants - 11/15/2007 7:38:56 PM

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Jobless bum? Been there done that. Eight years later, he still hadn't advanced. I learned a very important lesson from that. If a man has no car and no job, there's a reason. Freeloading mooches aren't worth any woman's time.

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RE: Status and Dominants - 11/16/2007 7:38:39 AM

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It's interesting to think about how we judge people... and yes, we are judging people when it comes to considering social status. It isn't as if people come with labels that tell us where they are. It's also not an automatically bad thing to judge... as with most things in life, motive and reaction are what change an innocuous activity into something less than desirable.

At any rate, I definitely consider social status to be something important when developing a relationship. No matter how you look at it, a relationship is defined by how you "relate" to another. Social status is going to affect that.

What isn't so important is what other people define as the criteria for that status. I have my own criteria, thank you very much.

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RE: Status and Dominants - 11/16/2007 10:44:24 PM

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Hmmm good question but here's my personal/opinion answers:

1. For me, anyone who has a job and reliable transportation i don't really care how they stand on the "status scale". They could work fast food for all i care, just as long as they take care of themselves and their living conditions. It's juts a personal thing for me, i have friends who make less then i do, or did, and i could have cared less.

2. Naw, i can submit to just about anyone regardless of their social position in life; meaning managers, team leads, etc.

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RE: Status and Dominants - 11/16/2007 10:53:14 PM

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i think well educated and professionalism is attractive. Without even trying i feel i am drawn to that persona. Someone who carries himself as such, and exudes that from his personality. Especially being a slave, i don't want to feel that i am 'more than' anything of him in any part of my life... that is my preference. When i met Master i was and am attracted to His intelligence... that is important to me.

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RE: Status and Dominants - 11/17/2007 5:29:10 AM

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i don't care a jot what His social status is, and lots of other details about Him don't bother me but i would find it really difficult to submit to someone who didn't have at least some of my moral values about general life and not be at least as intelligent as me if not more so. sorry just the way i'm made need to be able to 'look up to Him' and respect Him in all things not just physical ones.

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RE: Status and Dominants - 11/17/2007 8:33:55 AM

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Not so much social status, as someone that can function in my vanilla world. This means the ability to be dressed correctly for the event, table manners, etiquette and the ability to engage. I have corporate functions, fundraisers and social functions that I attend. He needs to be able to operate in that enviroment.

I like educated, intelligent men. I love debate, discussions and reading.

Income: I suppose on some level. I've dated very wealthy men and not wealthy men. What was important to me was that he was self supporting and wasn't looking to use my income to support himself.

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RE: Status and Dominants - 11/17/2007 10:31:51 AM

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How are you defining "social status"?

Education,Income and maybe even IQ.

Education, well there are alot of well educated people from Ivy league schools that are street people. Income, as long as the bills are paid and you have a few dollars in your pocket and your basic needs are met the rest is gravy. Some folks don't need as much gravy as others.Some are in life for the experience not for the stuff you'll leave behind when you die. IQ, I belong to Mensa, big deal that and 50 cents will get me a quick phone call. There are people with high IQ's that cant function. So to me all three don't mean a thing if you don't have common sense and a good heart and soul.

Master and I live comfortably. We are not rich, nor are we in high social standing in the small area in which we live. We are educated, intelligent and have high IQ's We rather live the way that works best which is via organic means of gardening, caning, making things from scratch instead of store bought or box mixes..you know the old fashioned way. That in and of itself would make people look down at us if we lived in bigger cities, but ehh their loss

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