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farglebargle -> RE: The Insanity of Bush Hatred (11/23/2007 9:20:16 AM)
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ORIGINAL: luckydog1
I see nothing in that link that relates to the problem of putting all our eggs in one basket, as you advocate, and nothing about how you would defend the things. Just because Nasa wrote a paer on it means nothing.
NASA didn't write the paper. IF you actually read it, then you're reading comprehension leaves much to be desired.
And I know you're not an idiot, so maybe you wanna go back and actually READ it?
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I do note that your link says they have to still develop the technology, and before you were insisting it was 1987 technology.
Yeah, AND? If Reagan *STARTED* in the 80's, we'd be at least 1/2 way to the full implementation. We didn't get cameraphones in our pocket until just recently, but we've had cellphones since the 80's. You need to USE it to DEVELOP it.
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Ok so best case in a decade we can generate electrcity at 1 billion dollars a megawtt.
Yeah, and? You also get the transportation infrastructure, and the ability to keep doing it. I liked the comparison to Air Travel. A hundred years ago, the Wright Brothers figured out how to control all the flight axes. In 2005, Atlanta International Airport saw 980,197 takeoffs & landings alone, an average of 1,342 takeoffs/day, or about 1 every minute 24 hours a day.
First time you need to build the road, it's a Billion a Mw. SECOND TIME, the road's in place, so it's a Billion a Gw. Once you get the process down, it's a Million a MwH. Of course these capital expenses are amortarized over the lifespan of the station.
With capital costs of an 80Mw natgas fired combined cycle plant being about 60 Million Dollars, it's not to far off.
Think about the price you paid for a transportable cellphone back in the 80s, vs. what AT&T gives away today.
Every year we wait, is another year wasted in turning off the combustion plants. That's another year's worth of oil, coal and gas BURNED and gone.
We need that shit to make Tupperware. Not burn.
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Obviossly all gov estimates of Price are iron clad and not subject to overrun. Everything NASA builds works as well as advertised.
Well, NOTHING Nasa designs for Manned Spaceflight works as advertised. I guess that goes back to Nixon's hatred of all things Kennedy, and the trashing Nixon gave to manned spaceflight when he was in the White House. However NASA's UNMANNED spaceflight works great.
OF COURSE, This paper has NOTHING to do with Nasa. And I would expect any effective implementation wouldn't involve them at all. We need UPS, not NASA delivering hardware.
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Do you envy my hair for some reason?
Nah, it was an off the cuff comment, HOWEVER, I wonder how far off it was, when I consider the "If we just WAIT A LITTLE MORE TIME, everyone in Iraq will learn to live with each other in peace" subtext of supporter of Bush's Policy in Iraq, I wonder how far off it actually is?
If the "Anti-Gay" types are cruising mens' rooms looking to suck cock, would I be surprised it the "Anti-Hippie" types *really do* expect the Sunni and Shia to sit around and sing Kumbaya?
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