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Can you be too real? - 11/15/2007 1:20:32 PM   
wisteriaV


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 Master and I live as a M/s as close to 24/7 as sensibilty allows. We have come across some people that tell us we are too real. So the question is For those of us that live this lifechoice of M/s or D/s real time, can you be too real in the life choices you have made?

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RE: Can you be too real? - 11/15/2007 1:22:58 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: wisteriaV

Master and I live as a M/s as close to 24/7 as sensibilty allows. We have come across some people that tell us we are too real. So the question is For those of us that live this lifechoice of M/s or D/s real time, can you be too real in the life choices you have made?

Too real??? And what exactly would make your relationship "too real?"
And are these people those into BDSM lifestyle/relationships or mainstream?

Thanks in advance,
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RE: Can you be too real? - 11/15/2007 1:25:24 PM   
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Oh yeah..
Can you dig it?
I can dig it

Whoo!

Oh yeah
Whoah oh oh oh

Sure is mellow grazin' in the grass
(grazin' in the grass, yes, baby, can you dig it?)
What a trip just watchin' as the world goes past
(grazin' in the grass, yes, baby, can you dig it?)
There are so many groovy things to see while grazin' in the grass
(grazin' in the grass, yes,baby, can you dig it?)
Flowers with colors for makin', everything outta sight
(grazin' in the grass, yes, baby, can you dig it?)

Here we go!

The sun peekin' out between the leaves
(grazin' in the grass, yes, baby, can you dig it?)
And the bir-ir-ir-irds dartin' in and out of the trees
(grazin' in the grass, yes, baby, can you dig it?)

Everything here is so clear, you can see it
And everything here is so real, you can feel it
And it's real, so real, so real, so real, so real, so real
Can you dig it?

I can dig it, he can dig it, she can dig it, we can dig it, they can dig
It, you can dig it
Oh, let's dig it. Can you dig it, baby?
I can dig it, he can dig it, she can dig it, we can dig it, they can dig
It, you can dig it
Oh, let's dig it. Can you dig it, baby?

The sun peekin' out between the leaves
And the bir-ir-ir-irds dartin' in and out of the trees

Everything here is so clear, you can see it
And everything here is so real, you can feel it
And it's real, so real, so real, so real, so real, so real
Can you dig it?

I can dig it, he can dig it, she can dig it, we can dig it, they can dig
It, you can dig it
Oh, let's dig it. Can you dig it, baby?
I can dig it, he can dig it, she can dig it, we can dig it, they can dig
It, you can dig it
Oh, let's dig it. Can you dig it, baby?

DDZ, if the Ravens can do it, baby, everybody can.................

Can you feel me?

Ron

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RE: Can you be too real? - 11/15/2007 1:35:31 PM   
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LOL mnottertail ! Tooo cute ty for the laugh.
DarkDaddyZ What I meant was this: I have gotten e-mails from people saying no one can last as long as Master and I have ( 3 years this 12/19 ) real time and not have broken up at some point. I have gotten other e-mails from people saying we are too honest and too upfront about who we are and what we seek. This are alternative life choice people that have made the comments from other M/s D/s and BDSM folks.

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RE: Can you be too real? - 11/15/2007 1:38:34 PM   
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8+ years for us.

It's not always easy and not always fun but it's always honest and honorable...and it't us.


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RE: Can you be too real? - 11/15/2007 1:41:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: wisteriaV

LOL mnottertail ! Tooo cute ty for the laugh.
DarkDaddyZ What I meant was this: I have gotten e-mails from people saying no one can last as long as Master and I have ( 3 years this 12/19 ) real time and not have broken up at some point. I have gotten other e-mails from people saying we are too honest and too upfront about who we are and what we seek. This are alternative life choice people that have made the comments from other M/s D/s and BDSM folks.

There are several M/s relationships and marriages that have lasted way more than 3 years (though 3 years is commendable).  Some of them have evolved into other power exchange relationships (like Jill and vi which is over 30 years and counting).  I have personally had 2 power exchange relationships that lasted over 5 years each.

Some work harder to make their relationships work and some get lost in the romanticism of the leather lifestyle.  Don't worry about what people say and just enjoy what you have now and to come.

Best!
Z-

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RE: Can you be too real? - 11/15/2007 1:50:33 PM   
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People make comments about others based on their own 'stuff'. They're telling you you're too real because you're involved at a level they're not comfortable with, for whatever reasons. If the two of you are happy, ignore them.

"...because once you're Real, you can't be ugly, except to people who don't understand." Skin Horse to Velveteen Rabbit.

Master Fire

< Message edited by MasterFireMaam -- 11/15/2007 1:53:59 PM >


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RE: Can you be too real? - 11/15/2007 2:08:20 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: wisteriaV

LOL mnottertail ! Tooo cute ty for the laugh.
DarkDaddyZ What I meant was this: I have gotten e-mails from people saying no one can last as long as Master and I have ( 3 years this 12/19 ) real time and not have broken up at some point. I have gotten other e-mails from people saying we are too honest and too upfront about who we are and what we seek. This are alternative life choice people that have made the comments from other M/s D/s and BDSM folks.


Yeah, Fox and I used to get the "your abusing him" BS from folks in the "community" when we had one locally and were in it.

I think some folks are afraid of 24/7 and so, rather than learn about it simply ignore it or not hang out with folks who do 24/7 they attack.

Over the course of 8+ years, we've learned to try and ignore people who feel the need to share their opinions when we didn't ask them.

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RE: Can you be too real? - 11/15/2007 2:12:54 PM   
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Whenever anyone says "I'm real" or "You need to be real" or anything else of that ilk I immediately think of the Chappelle Show skit "When Keeping it Real Goes Wrong."

I know I can't be the only one.


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RE: Can you be too real? - 11/15/2007 2:18:26 PM   
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Hey, if it really works for you and you both are really happy, then how can it be "too" real? ahhh....sigh...I envy you a wee bit!

Hubby and I do what we can when it works with our life. I sure would love to incorporate more of it into our daily lives. Sometimes it just isn't practical. At our age and stage of life - having little ones to care for, trying to pay the mortgage and all that, I am just thankful that we have such a great time "playing" for an hour or so before bed time. I can only look forward to the future when we have more "us" time and we can explore a more extensive power exchange. I don't mind waiting...what we have is great, and it will only get better if we both stay attentive to each other's needs.

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RE: Can you be too real? - 11/15/2007 2:19:58 PM   
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We are going on 9 years.  It takes work, committment, love, understanding, desire, creativity, willingness, openness etc.  Yeah..those things are real....if you live in a dream world you can't make it too long....as soon as you wake up and things are perfect you are ready to walk.  To have longetivity you have to be real.

Frankly, I would much rather be the real thing or too real than fake or too fake.  Why somoene would try and make that a bad thing is beyond me.

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RE: Can you be too real? - 11/15/2007 2:26:48 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: wisteriaV

Master and I live as a M/s as close to 24/7 as sensibilty allows. We have come across some people that tell us we are too real. So the question is For those of us that live this lifechoice of M/s or D/s real time, can you be too real in the life choices you have made?

Oh, and I forgot to ask you...since I'm a newbie, can you elaborate on what it is you do that makes your lives as "close to 24/7 as sensibility allows"? I mean, what is intertwined in your every-day lives that makes it so? I'm just curious because in some ways, I guess we are kinda 24/7 in the sense that because of old-fashioned values, I stay at home, and when push comes to shove, I defer to him when it comes to major decisions. I'm about as traditional a housewife as one could be, even down to baking cookies for the bake sale, carpooling the UMs, charity and volunteer work, and all this with dinner on the table and the house as neat as a pin when hubby gets home, but being in nothing but an apron and a pair of heels doesn't quite work right now. So, if you or anyone else wants to elaborate on what you do to incorporate more "fun" into your real lives, what do you do?

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RE: Can you be too real? - 11/15/2007 3:43:37 PM   
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Tautology, often regarded as a fault of style, was defined by Fowler as "saying the same thing twice". In fact, it is not necessary for the entire meaning of a phrase to be repeated; if a part of the meaning is repeated in such a way that it appears as unintentional or clumsy, then it may be described as tautology. On the other hand, a repetition of meaning which improves the style of a piece of speech or writing is not usually described as tautology, although it may be a logical tautology.
Non cognate synonyms are also examples of tautologies such as clearly visible, absolutely unique.....too real is simply a tautology.
Here's to keeping it real though....yer yer yer yer.....


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RE: Can you be too real? - 11/15/2007 3:48:32 PM   
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I'm not 24/7 M/s with my husband.

Does that somehow make my life less real or yours more, nay "too much?"

Silliness. Just live your real life and be happy.

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RE: Can you be too real? - 11/15/2007 4:21:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: gorgeous1
Oh, and I forgot to ask you...since I'm a newbie, can you elaborate on what it is you do that makes your lives as "close to 24/7 as sensibility allows"? I mean, what is intertwined in your every-day lives that makes it so? I'm just curious because in some ways, I guess we are kinda 24/7 in the sense that because of old-fashioned values, I stay at home, and when push comes to shove, I defer to him when it comes to major decisions. I'm about as traditional a housewife as one could be, even down to baking cookies for the bake sale, carpooling the UMs, charity and volunteer work, and all this with dinner on the table and the house as neat as a pin when hubby gets home, but being in nothing but an apron and a pair of heels doesn't quite work right now. So, if you or anyone else wants to elaborate on what you do to incorporate more "fun" into your real lives, what do you do?


Hi gorgeous1,
i can only speak for the relationship i'm in as well as what i understand about 24/7 relationships.

i live a pretty traditional type life, not quite like yours as we don't have any UMs around but, still one of a fairly typical housewife. We are 24/7 which in our relationship simply means that i am always his slave and he is always the Master/Daddy. He allows me to make decisions and think on my own, but if it is something different than our norm then i ask permission. i am not naked in an apron when he comes home from work (though sometimes i am dressed up in a sexy outfit)...Basically, things are laid back, but he is the boss. Just like in a job, even if my boss wasn't telling me what to do, he/she would still remain boss....i defer to him on things, am respectful of his wishes and him as a person and my Master. If our relationship was based on play then we would be far from 24/7, but that isn't the main ingredient here.

As for incorporating fun into our lives. He will occasionally be in the mood to cane me (or use any kitchen utensil that is nearby) while i attempt to count scoops of coffee....or while i'm cooking or something....HE will occasionally spank me for an attitude adjustment during PMS times (for the endorphin rush)..We go out occasionally to swingers clubs or local dungeons and play.....i get to wash his back on alot of the morning showers which i totally enjoy doing.....i'm sure there's other stuff too, but i'm so used to it that it doesn't come to mind right now.


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RE: Can you be too real? - 11/15/2007 4:21:30 PM   
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Too real? Is that M/s in 4 dimensions maybe?

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RE: Can you be too real? - 11/15/2007 4:29:11 PM   
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LOL...what is wrong with you???....

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RE: Can you be too real? - 11/15/2007 4:31:54 PM   
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Master and I live as a M/s as close to 24/7 as sensibilty allows. We have come across some people that tell us we are too real. So the question is For those of us that live this lifechoice of M/s or D/s real time, can you be too real in the life choices you have made?


sounds like they are just jealous of a long, healthy relationship...I know I am

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RE: Can you be too real? - 11/15/2007 5:04:16 PM   
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If you're questioning the reality of your relationship based on what people on the internet are telling you, you're not too real. 

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RE: Can you be too real? - 11/15/2007 5:34:02 PM   
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I don't live entirely in this dimension so I am less corporeal than many others but when I exist in only one dimension, I think that counts as "real", doesn't it?

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