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RE: The condition of being a slave - 11/20/2007 2:55:14 PM

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To me they're not wise if they're trying to paint every one with a one true wayisim paint brush.

There's a whole spectrum of people out there, and no one particular way paint brush can make that not so. To me they sound like they have their head up their butts and have been smelling their own bull for to long.

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Several wise dominants and master have told me repeatedly that there were no switches. They told me there are no in betweens. They told me that I should hurry and "decide" what I was. I was very upset by this idea, for I can't just "decide" who I am. If I could do that, then I would surely do that and cease this turmoil!

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RE: The condition of being a slave - 11/20/2007 3:02:10 PM

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Several wise dominants and master have told me repeatedly that there were no switches.

There is nothing wise about denying the existance of someone different than what you want. That is about on par with saying there are no dominant Females. They might not fit your choice of lifestyle, but they do exist and quite happily. They may not accept switches in their own training and life... which is their decisions. That doesnt mean they dont exist.
Being a switch is not being in between, nor is it being undecided. It is enjoying both, at different times and with different partners (usually, but not always). Some people are dominant with some and submissive with others, its just how they work. IF you are told to hurry up and decide, maybe that should be your decision. You have decided to be a switch and enjoy it for what it is. A WISE master would understand that.

Both my boys knew they were slaves from the beginning.
I will have Fox answer when he gets here later.

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RE: The condition of being a slave - 11/20/2007 3:20:45 PM

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Several wise dominants and master have told me repeatedly that there were no switches. They told me there are no in betweens. They told me that I should hurry and "decide" what I was.

i found it's not a "decision"... it's about finding what feels right for me... what feels most comfortable and makes me happiest... what pulls at me the strongest.

good luck :)

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RE: The condition of being a slave - 11/20/2007 3:22:23 PM

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oh oh oh

OFF TOPIC

DV

I LOVE the new pic

ok, back on topic now

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RE: The condition of being a slave - 11/20/2007 3:30:31 PM

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ORIGINAL: feralkyttin

As usual, please forgive me if I haven't looked hard enough for the answers I seek.

I just wonder how those of you out there who self identify as slaves would answer me. Or anyone. Just putting my curiosities out there. How did you come to realize you were a slave? Did you just know? Did you have to be shown? Did you like learning that? Was it hard for you? Did it ever make you cry? I guess that's all for now.

respectfully,
meesha / feral kyttin

It's been and still is a process of learning what "slave" means to Chairman. i felt that it was possible, but no, i didn't just know. It was a confusing time in many ways since i don't have what might be termed the "typical" slave personality as may be envisioned in fantasy - heh heh.

i still have to be shown at times and i have to meditate on that aspect of myself and be willing to allow that part of me to grow since it was stifled for so many years under a facade of toughness. But it's the most deeply feminine part of me, the most lovely and soft.

At times i've enjoyed my learning and at other times it's been incredibly hard. Yes, many tears, many joys as well. i don't think because i am a slave that it means there are no challenges in allowing myself to be fully who i am. Daily i have to let go of preconceived ideas about being a slave, belonging to a Master.

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RE: The condition of being a slave - 11/20/2007 4:33:40 PM

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Wow, girls. Thank you so much. I had my first tears in a long time a few days ago. They were also my first tears of joy. I have experienced them twice since. I'm afraid more will follow if I elaborate too much, so, for now, just know that I've read your responses and learned a great deal from them

Several wise dominants and master have told me repeatedly that there were no switches. They told me there are no in betweens. They told me that I should hurry and "decide" what I was. I was very upset by this idea, for I can't just "decide" who I am. If I could do that, then I would surely do that and cease this turmoil!

Some people have strong ideas about labels. There is no right or wrong in any of this, we are all just trying to find our own unique ways to be and other delightful folks to share that journey with. I don't know if this will help but I occasionally top, (make that rarely) and I self identify as a submissive. At core, I am driven and fascinated by other people and what they really want and need. Service can be like a drug for me. If someones want and desire and focus is strong enough it will draw me like a moth. It has to be really REALLY strong and loud for a submisive or slave person to register for me and snap my head around and make me long to give that to them, but it can happen. I don't have the desire to own people, but I adore making them happy, and if a need is loud enough and strong enough sometimes I can function as a submissive passifier of sorts. I can blunt an edge. There is a really sweet girl who is my friend and the first time I saw her she was bottoming in a class to a friend. She radiated need, it was like a pulse off of her body. I wanted to get my hands on her and hurt her, kick her, make her sob and cry, and make her happy. I get goosebumps when she bottoms. There is a layer of aggression within me that only a very few people can trigger.

I have caused confusion in people before, when they have seen me top someone and then seen me obviously be submissive to another person. For some people that hurts their heads. Don't let it phase you if you discover you don't fit someone elses "ideas" of what kind of box you should fit neatly in. Be who you are. Explore. Figure out what you like and why. Find your wings and use them.

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RE: The condition of being a slave - 11/20/2007 6:18:03 PM

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I did not realize the depths of my submission until, in one of my first encounters I experienced enough discipline and nurturing to bring me to that very deeply submissive place that I called slavery. Since I am a n00b I'm sure I still have no idea how deep I could go in the right circumstances...but that's what makes it so exciting. However, after that original experience I am able to let my slave flag fly. I feel more comfortable and confident in the assertion that it is part of my personality. I guess the feeling I always had needed to manifest itself in reality before I could know for sure. There is still so much more to learn.

Don't worry about how you define yourself, as a switch or anything else...being a switch doesn't mean that you have less depth of feeling than someone who stays on one side.

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RE: The condition of being a slave - 11/20/2007 6:26:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: feralkyttin

Several wise dominants and master have told me repeatedly that there were no switches. They told me there are no in betweens. They told me that I should hurry and "decide" what I was. I was very upset by this idea, for I can't just "decide" who I am. If I could do that, then I would surely do that and cease this turmoil!

Who told you that you need to "hurry and decide" what you are? Is there a time limit I was not informed about??

How silly. I would not think someone was wise who advised you this way. Take everything you hear from anyone with a grain of salt and decide for yourself how YOU feel.

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RE: The condition of being a slave - 11/21/2007 7:58:20 AM

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ORIGINAL: feralkyttin

As usual, please forgive me if I haven't looked hard enough for the answers I seek.

I just wonder how those of you out there who self identify as slaves would answer me. Or anyone. Just putting my curiosities out there. How did you come to realize you were a slave? Did you just know? Did you have to be shown? Did you like learning that? Was it hard for you? Did it ever make you cry? I guess that's all for now.

respectfully,
meesha / feral kyttin

I was officially a slave when my Owner told me I was a slave, for all intents and purposes. I had submissive yearnings all of my life, but what led me to classify myself as a slave, rather than a submissive, is quite simple. Identifying as a slave does make a lot more sense to me now than identifying at a submissive, though...simply because of how I look at it. Yes, for all intents and purposes, I have always known that I desired to be a slave. For a long, long time. I love learning more and more every day and, thus far, it has not been any kind of struggle for me. I had all of those struggles when I was a lot younger. Has it made me cry? Oh yes, quite a lot...for various reasons...important, interesting, and even silly.

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RE: The condition of being a slave - 11/21/2007 11:33:32 AM

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i resisted thinking of myself as a slave for a long time after i started learning. The idea had such negative connotations!

So i started as a sub and loved it, loved giving up the control and the serving... and the serving came very naturally to me. He commented several times that He did not have to tell me what He wanted, that i did them before He could tell me it was required. i soon felt the need for something more... more restrictive, more controlling, more structured. The trust i have in Him grew as well, so that i knew that He was not going to harm me, that i could give up that last bit i held in reserve and become His slave.

i have shed no tears over the decision. It felt like coming home.

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RE: The condition of being a slave - 1/2/2008 10:22:45 AM

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Greetings everyone *smilez*

I'm glad to see that I agree with so many of you and can relate to you as well. My wise self once told me to just be myself. My wise friends on collarme assured me that this was the best course of action. Thank you all again. Yes... slavery is a condition now. I'm not telling "who" told me to hurry up and decide. Let's just say he was a young man very interested in "semantics" and leave it at that.

Wishing you all to remain well,
meesha

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