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missturbation -> RE: Prince charming (11/23/2007 1:58:19 PM)

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My Master is an awesome Gentleman. He always opens my doors...holds my hand when walking...He makes sure to always walk on the outside(closest to street) when we are walking on a sidewalk. He is AWESOME....He IS my Prince Charming, but I call him Master, Baby or King [:)].....

If that is your definition of a 'prince charming' then that is great. I like courteous, polite, chivalrous men too. However im speaking more of the mentality that says 'prince charming' will come along, solve all problems, rescue and then the sun will set and hey presto happy ever after.




MadRabbit -> RE: Prince charming (11/23/2007 2:03:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: breatheasone

Howdy OP [:)]....I would say I am not a damsel in distress that is in need of rescue. I am however i very girlie girl...and I FULLY warned my Master of this PRIOR to our 1st meeting ! [:D]  I think it tries His patience at times but I also think He finds it adorable and wouldn't have me any other way. My Master is an awesome Gentleman. He always opens my doors...holds my hand when walking...He makes sure to always walk on the outside(closest to street) when we are walking on a sidewalk. He is AWESOME....He IS my Prince Charming, but I call him Master, Baby or King [:)].....


I bet one time when he was driving alone in his car, he picked his nose and wiped it on the passenger seat where you normally sit.



Focus50 -> RE: Prince charming (11/23/2007 2:15:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

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I'd say as long as the girl isn't chronically naive and doesn't have unrealistic expectations of a prince charming, I'd probably think her ideals cute, attractive and charming in their own right.

What is a realistic expectation of a 'prince charming' though?

Obviously that's a matter of individual perspective.  What's attractive to one is "issues" to another. 
 
While I find your question difficult to answer in verse, I'm certain I could point it out when I see it... lol
 
Focus.



sexyred1 -> RE: Prince charming (11/23/2007 2:24:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

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My Master is an awesome Gentleman. He always opens my doors...holds my hand when walking...He makes sure to always walk on the outside(closest to street) when we are walking on a sidewalk. He is AWESOME....He IS my Prince Charming, but I call him Master, Baby or King [:)].....

If that is your definition of a 'prince charming' then that is great. I like courteous, polite, chivalrous men too. However im speaking more of the mentality that says 'prince charming' will come along, solve all problems, rescue and then the sun will set and hey presto happy ever after.




I think women of a certain age all grew up with that perception; and I believe that deep down inside, many women, some extremely accomplished, intelligent, independent, confident, etc. sometimes secretly still wish for the "prince" from this early programming we saw.

But, most of us grew out of that long ago.

I think the worse problem than NOT finding Prince Charming, is actually FINDING your particular Prince and while he may be a Prince in certain ways (in my case all the fantasy BDSM ways), he is not the kind of Prince you can be with forever and ever.

That is worse than kissing a million frogs becaused you kissed someone who is both your ideal and your worst nightmare.



breatheasone -> RE: Prince charming (11/23/2007 2:27:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

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My Master is an awesome Gentleman. He always opens my doors...holds my hand when walking...He makes sure to always walk on the outside(closest to street) when we are walking on a sidewalk. He is AWESOME....He IS my Prince Charming, but I call him Master, Baby or King [:)].....

If that is your definition of a 'prince charming' then that is great. I like courteous, polite, chivalrous men too. However im speaking more of the mentality that says 'prince charming' will come along, solve all problems, rescue and then the sun will set and hey presto happy ever after.



Yeah I hear ya...I guess its all in what you are looking for...Thats just not what I was looking for. I get that some do look for that whether consciously or subconsciously.



carlie310 -> RE: Prince charming (11/23/2007 2:59:05 PM)

The newest Disney movie (released Wed) has a better stance on it, even to the point of clever parodying some of the earlier titles.  And, entertainingly enough, a BDSM visual joke.  Beauty & the Beast was actually one of the first to break out of the damsel in distress mode--Belle doesn't fit in her world because she's smart & capable. And solves her own distress by taming the Beast.





southernhart -> RE: Prince charming (11/23/2007 5:41:55 PM)

i never gave up on my ideals and i never settled. my Master is my prince charming. He is eveything i could possibly want and more and he treats me like a princess. Just because someone hasn't founf the one that is perfect for them doesn't mean it doesn't exist foe someone else, and no one has the right to tell anyone else that it doesn't.



MrSpectacular -> RE: Prince charming (11/23/2007 6:18:28 PM)

To the OP - yes I do get the Prince Charming - no I am not bothered by it. Everybody has something or someone they are looking for. However, as part of any dialog I may have, the initial desire often changes or becomes more developed. So the expectation of the person looking then changes as they get to know you.
I do not think it is wrong to have an ideal mate you are looking for - the expectation though does need to be tempered as a relationship develops though. I do like to be Prince Charming - but it is not something I am always or necessarily aspire too.



RRafe -> RE: Prince charming (11/23/2007 6:53:35 PM)

People have the unfortunate tendency to allow themselves to be imprinted with the most ludicrous stereotypes. Most of what are created to sell a product (Ie Disney movies) or to try and keep people within a status quo system.

It's merely part of the "Little Boxes" mentality. However individuals don't fit in those boxes-it just a stupid fantasy. But I guess it makes the Unimaginitive feel safe-as they blindly follow the herd in it's well worn rut.

But I didn't abandon vanilla thinking to bring it along with me here. And that includes women who desire to enforce it on me-so I just tell that sort to go look elsewhere.

I'm not going to prop someone up -I have better things to do with my time.

If a woman refuses to think for herself-I'm not going to debase my life by doing it FOR her.




MasterFireMaam -> RE: Prince charming (11/23/2007 7:02:36 PM)

The Knight (in shining armor), the Damsel (in distress), the Rescuer and the Victim are very closely related when they are working in the shadow. Since everyone has the Victim archetype (it's conidered to be a survival archetype and doesn't HAVE to be negative but often is), it's easy to fall into wanting to be rescued.

Note when you read, the Rescuer doesn't HAVE to be male and the Victim doesn't HAVE to be female.

http://myss.com/library/contracts/three_archs.asp

Master Fire



RRafe -> RE: Prince charming (11/23/2007 7:13:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

The Knight (in shining armor), the Damsel (in distress), the Rescuer and the Victim are very closely related when they are working in the shadow. Since everyone has the Victim archetype (it's conidered to be a survival archetype and doesn't HAVE to be negative but often is), it's easy to fall into wanting to be rescued.

Note when you read, the Rescuer doesn't HAVE to be male and the Victim doesn't HAVE to be female.

http://myss.com/library/contracts/three_archs.asp

Master Fire



Personal power comes by accepting personal accountability for the choices we make. In resisting to tendency to focus blame-on self, or others. By moving beyond the need for validation-in any but a results based dynamic. Negative forces can drain, or be focused on acheiving truly interesting things. If you manage to sublimate them into redirecting themselves-out of downward spirals..

Break the loop-and you have a striaght path-fail to-and you travel in circles.



adoracat -> RE: Prince charming (11/24/2007 1:13:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Qithoras

As I generally put it, I'm built like a truck and ugly as a trucker - So I haven't had any girls coming to me thinking I'm Prince Charming, nor do I come across it in my searches.

No. I've long ago come to terms with who and what I am, and have a rough idea of who I will be in the future. If being Prince Charming was a part of me, yes I would aspire towards it.

However I'm arrogant, cocky, generally intollerant of alot of things and I make bad jokes. So I don't think who I am fits into the Prince Charming idea. Hell, I doubt if there is anyone out there who matches those exacting fantasy standards.

Hope this helped to answer your question.



i dont find you displeasing in looks either...i'd say quite masculine and good looking. 

some women want prince charming, others just want someone who is a good fit to them.  i think the second ones end up with more happiness.  :)

kitten



adoracat -> RE: Prince charming (11/24/2007 1:17:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

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I'd say as long as the girl isn't chronically naive and doesn't have unrealistic expectations of a prince charming, I'd probably think her ideals cute, attractive and charming in their own right.

What is a realistic expectation of a 'prince charming' though?




someone who fits well with my needs, whose presence makes me feel content and happy, who tries to understand me and can love me as well as dominate me.  someone i can be content catering to his needs, someone whose needs i can meet without finding unrealistic expectations of what i can do.

someone who can see that i'm a person, not a fantasy ideal.

that seems pretty realistic to me. 

kitten, thoughtfully



SimplyMichael -> RE: Prince charming (11/24/2007 7:00:04 AM)

Despite the OPs best intent I think people are confusing "Prince Charming" with "a true gentleman"

I think what she is refering to is a classic "Captain Save'a'ho" who either promises to solve all her problems (people can only fix themselves) not someone who is a gentleman and takes care of his well adjusted partner.

I used to do a lot of "Captain Save'a'ho stuff, culling some sick/wounded woman out from the edges of the hurd, winning her with promises of how I would fix her life and I was actually pretty good at fixing their lives too.  Mainly cause fixing theirs was easier than fixing mine/me!  Course then I would grow resentful that they weren't grateful enough or that my life "was fucked up because of their issues" and either rant and rave (verbally abusive) or dump them.

Yeah, it is a fucked up syndrome.

Now I just try and find a partner who has their shit together and together form a partnership that is greater than either of us on our own.  In other words put my skills to work on a HEALTHY relationship in order to make it better for both of us.  MUCH better dynamic.



velvetears -> RE: Prince charming (11/24/2007 7:12:08 AM)

Excellent post Michael and interesting point that if someone is fixing my life and solving my problems he's probably got issues he himself is avoiding.  



RRafe -> RE: Prince charming (11/24/2007 7:15:41 AM)

Nodding...........and a lot of Tops come to places like this, looking to control -because they have zilch in thier own lives. So of course-it's not going to work for them to try and fix another-if they can't even get thier own act right.

Doesn't seem to stop them from trying though.




Vanatru -> RE: Prince charming (11/24/2007 8:25:08 AM)

for all the girls that come to me thinking I'm a Knight in Shining Armor, I reply that they found the Dragon instead.



wisteriaV -> RE: Prince charming (11/24/2007 9:59:05 AM)

Smiles and my what a fierce bit you have Master! I rather love the dragon in you.[:D]



breatheasone -> RE: Prince charming (11/24/2007 10:25:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: velvetears

Excellent post Michael and interesting point that if someone is fixing my life and solving my problems he's probably got issues he himself is avoiding.  

This is an interesting thought.....



BloodLuna -> RE: Prince charming (11/24/2007 11:54:33 AM)

Do Not Anger the Vanatru for you are good and crunchy with Ketchup!

Luna



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