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Police taser man for alleged speeding ticket.... - 11/23/2007 4:22:39 PM

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This is the future of law enforcement.Welcome to the jungle.

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RE: Police taser man for alleged speeding ticket.... - 11/23/2007 4:59:00 PM

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Waddaya mean future? The year after I graduated college in Waltham, MA (1983)- I got pulled over for speeding. I gave the cop my license, at which point he informs me that my license was invalid. I began yelling and a cop and a bunch of his buddies arrested me. I was charged with assault- my leg hit the cop's flashlight (which is functionally a nightstick in terms of mass and shape) in the scuffle and it took a lawyer and a couple of k to get me out of this mess. In MA at the time- an out of state license is invalid until the cop has decided to issue you a ticket. Don't ask me, it didn't make sense to me then and it still doesn't today. That video brought back some unpleasant memories.

By the way if you want to get a cop really angry- don't call them pigs or assholes- they're used to it. Call them incompetent and make it stick- like how many cars get stolen and wind up in chop shops- yet they can't find these operations? Stuff like that. THAT"LL get 'em good and mad- truth hurts.

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RE: Police taser man for alleged speeding ticket.... - 11/23/2007 5:26:34 PM

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Yeah this is nothing new. They just used blackjacks and billy clubs before they had tasers. Tasers are just so easy to use, that they are using them more and more when someone disagrees with them. This cop should have explained what that signature is for. It's not a admittance of guilt, it's a promise to show up for the arraignment. I always just make a quick scribble on the pad, and I am on my way. Oh yeah, when they ask you, "do you know why I pulled you over?" Don't answer that shit. It's a trick to try and get you to incriminate yourself. It's just best to cooperate, than nail their asses in court. I never just pay the ticket. I always show up and plead not guilty. Half the time, they won't show up to court and the judge will dismiss it. If they do show up, it's a pain in the ass for them.

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RE: Police taser man for alleged speeding ticket.... - 11/23/2007 5:35:05 PM

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quote:

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Waddaya mean future? The year after I graduated college in Waltham, MA (1983)- I got pulled over for speeding. I gave the cop my license, at which point he informs me that my license was invalid. I began yelling and a cop and a bunch of his buddies arrested me. I was charged with assault- my leg hit the cop's flashlight (which is functionally a nightstick in terms of mass and shape) in the scuffle and it took a lawyer and a couple of k to get me out of this mess. In MA at the time- an out of state license is invalid until the cop has decided to issue you a ticket. Don't ask me, it didn't make sense to me then and it still doesn't today. That video brought back some unpleasant memories.

By the way if you want to get a cop really angry- don't call them pigs or assholes- they're used to it. Call them incompetent and make it stick- like how many cars get stolen and wind up in chop shops- yet they can't find these operations? Stuff like that. THAT"LL get 'em good and mad- truth hurts.

Sam

"College in Waltham, Mass?"
The cops in Mass are among the worst in the country for brutality.
Funny, the state is full of Moonbats and socialists but the cops in that state won't hesitate to beat the crap out of people.
I could tell you stories from Woburn, Mass that would curl your hair.

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RE: Police taser man for alleged speeding ticket.... - 11/23/2007 6:06:20 PM

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This isn't all that surprising. While I don't think all police are "bad cops" I am sure that throughout history those in law enforcement have used their position to take advantage of/abuse people. Only now they have to worry about camcorders, cell phones, and digital cameras. It's sad.

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RE: Police taser man for alleged speeding ticket.... - 11/23/2007 6:14:19 PM

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Try dealing with a redneck with a badge! To most of these guys, Dirty Harry was too nice. I accused a Forrest County, Mississippi deputy of abusing his authority, so what did he do? He abused his authority and arrested me for saying that he was abusing his authority. The he threated to pull the car over and in his words, beat my ass. He demanded to be called Sir, and then called me a Stupid Mother******! It takes a really brave man to threaten someone in handcuffs. Perhaps he shopuld remember that another law enforcement officer from just down the road in Harrison County, Mississippi, just got life for beating an inmate to death while he was strapped in a restraint chair.

Have law enforcement officers gone too far? Do they not remember the Magna Carta, which stated in part that NO man is above the law?

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RE: Police taser man for alleged speeding ticket.... - 11/23/2007 6:23:06 PM

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We need to pay them more money and attract a better class of people to the forces.

i watched a bunch of those taser clips and what strikes me is being tasered is bad enough but so many of them fall i wonder how many get significan head injuries or knock out their own teeth etc... i can see using a taser if someone is armed or on some dug where they might hurt themselves or others but for the average resisting person? Doesn't seem right to me. Become a cop and do your job - don't exect every arrest to go smoothly.

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RE: Police taser man for alleged speeding ticket.... - 11/23/2007 7:27:27 PM

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So everyoneee is against the cops hmmm? He was going back to his car. Not complying with the officer. Who knows, the guy could of had a pistol in his wheelrack. I'm not going to read the responses to this because I know I'll just get attacked by a bunch of cop-haters.

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RE: Police taser man for alleged speeding ticket.... - 11/23/2007 7:43:10 PM

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Oh yeah, when they ask you, "do you know why I pulled you over?" Don't answer that shit. It's a trick to try and get you to incriminate yourself. It's just best to cooperate, than nail their asses in court.

That's right, he's recording you - sound as well as video.

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RE: Police taser man for alleged speeding ticket.... - 11/23/2007 8:01:26 PM

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This is the future of law enforcement.Welcome to the jungle.

Oh, please. The little shit had it coming.

Most people watch too much TV and think that they have the rights they don't. If a cop tells you to do something and you don't - expect to go to jail.

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RE: Police taser man for alleged speeding ticket.... - 11/23/2007 8:01:58 PM

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So everyoneee is against the cops hmmm? He was going back to his car. Not complying with the officer. Who knows, the guy could of had a pistol in his wheelrack. I'm not going to read the responses to this because I know I'll just get attacked by a bunch of cop-haters.

No but you can expect to get lots of flaq from people who know there is no law that says that kid had to sign a damn thing. That is what this is all about. Or at least where it all started. They both were wrong, but since mr cop was in charge it is his responsiblity to de-escalate not escalate the situation as he did. Some moron rookie just wanted to play with his new toy walking around with a hard on looking for some place to stick it.

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RE: Police taser man for alleged speeding ticket.... - 11/23/2007 8:15:05 PM

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that was horribly irresponsable of him. i think cops should be MORE educated about what electricity DOES to people. it shouldnt be used as a first line of deffense! that should be one of the LAST resorts in a bad situation because it can be just as deadly as a bullet if a person has any pre-existing conditions. what if he had done that to a woman who wasnt visibly pregnant? to someone who had a pace maker? who had epilesy?

disgustingly stupid and irresponsable. you dont need to sign jack shit when you get a ticket, especially not if you plan on fighting it in court. the guy shouldnt have argued, but the cop should have taken better controle of the situation before letting it escalate so far so quickly. just give him the ticket and be done with it. write down his licence plate number and catch him later.

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RE: Police taser man for alleged speeding ticket.... - 11/23/2007 8:24:17 PM

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disgustingly stupid and irresponsable.

Yes, the driver shouldn't have walked away from the police officer after he had been told he was being put under arrest. Obviously, the driver was a fucking moron.

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RE: Police taser man for alleged speeding ticket.... - 11/23/2007 8:25:42 PM

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The cop was clearly a bully.He didn`t give the kid a chance to even think.
Is there a law that says if you don`t sign the paper/ticket,you get arrested?I don`t think so.He told the kid to get out and turn around to be cuffed.

So, was he going to be busted, for not signing the ticket?

B/c that`s what happened.The guy couln`t even talk,the cop wouldn`t let him.

Thing is,even the "law & order"types, could have this happen to them.No one`s immune,even you angles,

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I doubt that any of you would let a cop step all over you,the way this cop did.I also suspect you`d be screaming like stuck pigs the loudest,when the heavy hand of government came down on your head,in the form of a bully cop and a "tazer ride".

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RE: Police taser man for alleged speeding ticket.... - 11/23/2007 8:55:12 PM

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Since it is known to kill people a case needs to be filed as an officer attacking him with a lethal weapon then let the cop try and say it is not with several tazer deaths already on record.

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RE: Police taser man for alleged speeding ticket.... - 11/23/2007 9:11:28 PM

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I'd rather be tased than shot.

As for the guy who was arrested, the citation always has your alleged speed written on it. So sign and explain your case in court. No matter what you think, you're not going to change an officers mind. Once you are told to sign, debate is off the table.

I had one lucky break after signing a citation. I asked my sister to drive the rest of the way. After our chinese fire drill, the cop ran back to us and decided to give me a warning instead.

Refusing to sign a citation does not mean you're going to just drive away. Cops are trained to be paranoid. They're ready for you to take a swing, pull out a gun, and be combative. The more talking, figgeting, walking, and moving around you do, the more trigger anxious they get. It's best to cooperate and then debate later with supervisors and the judicial system.

Before we continue to bash and judge the cop, let's ask ourselves what we would have done in the same shoes. After all, we would be required to take the guy into the station after he says "I'm not signing."

When I see a taser or gun pointed at me, that's when my hands go up an my mouth zips. Going on with "What are you doing? You need to calm down" Is not going to help you. He had the ZAP comming to him.

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RE: Police taser man for alleged speeding ticket.... - 11/23/2007 9:14:50 PM

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Do you fine folks know how many highway workers are killed every year in work zones by speeding assholes?… That was a work zone…the guy deserved all he got.

Why did he get out of the car and confront the cop and refuse to do as he was told?

What do you expect police to do… just walk away?…let the guy get in his car and speed off?… get in a knock down fist fight?…pull his gun and threaten him?

How to NOT get tasered

1..don’t speed
2..don’t speed in a work zone
3..don’t tell a police officer you will not do something when you are breaking the law
4..don’t be stupid
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RE: Police taser man for alleged speeding ticket.... - 11/23/2007 9:15:54 PM

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What the hell? Now we have to do anything a cop says?

Shaking head...

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Most people watch too much TV and think that they have the rights they don't. If a cop tells you to do something and you don't - expect to go to jail.

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RE: Police taser man for alleged speeding ticket.... - 11/23/2007 9:23:39 PM

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Cops by and large have never had any more ambition in life than to be coat hall monitors and certainly never had the wherewithal to to attain that goal socially.

Having said that, they perform no useful function beyond fucking the law, for self aggrandizement.

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RE: Police taser man for alleged speeding ticket.... - 11/23/2007 9:26:31 PM

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Did a Google search and came up with over 1,000,000 videos of police brutality. Wonder how many are not video taped and unreported, because the cops are always right, aren't they?

Anyone remember the elder lady killed in her own home, in Atlanta, I believe. The cops burst in, and she attempted to defend herself from an unknown invader?

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