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ShiftedJewel -> RE: Attention Would Be "Relocating 24/7ers"! (8/12/2005 4:08:07 AM)
quote: No you're not. If I had a doime for every slave from anothe country who promised he'd come here to live with Me... I'd be richer than Bill Gates. Listen, a Mistress (or Master) seeking a live-in slave is NOT a one way ticket out of lower Slobbovia to the gold paved streets of the US of A! AMEN! Like I told Scooter.... I DO NOT have "passport to the USA" tattoo'd on my forehead! quote: Why are you posting your issues here? This should be your profile or a journal entry...not that it will change the emails you get. I think it's a great post and I love the humor in it. quote: I've known what bag balm was since I was a biologically unmentionable. It came in this neat lil green square container looked like vasalene but wasn't. It's also sold as udder cream for cows and stuff. udder cream??? I love that stuff... it's the only thing I use on my tat's! Jewel

subversiveone -> RE: Attention Would Be "Relocating 24/7ers"! (8/12/2005 4:08:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: EmeraldSlave2 Why are you posting your issues here? This should be your profile or a journal entry...not that it will change the emails you get. What part of General BDSM discussion does this NOT fulfill Emerald? I agree that perhaps the desired response is ultimately not going to come from writing this here but what the heck? I've seen a lot worse.

pinkpleasures -> RE: Attention Would Be "Relocating 24/7ers"! (8/12/2005 4:15:25 AM)
Well, from how I see it, whether I agree or not, is that she is posting because she is FREE (meaning Domme, or whatever dominant term you folks choose to use), and should be able to do so, without being questioned by some uppity, nosy, and holier-than-thou thinking submissive individual. Dominant and submissive, people seem to continue to forget, are not equal, or the same. Raven Guilty as charged...i did intend to give advice, especially to Doms and Masters and Dommes..and that apparently stung Raven's ego. However, i stand by what i said..submissives and slaves have a duty to be in a solid place in their lives just as Doms and Master and Dommes do, before they begin a relationship. It is unfair and unlikely to succeed to ask another adult to solve your problems. pinkpleasures

curios1 -> RE: Attention Would Be "Relocating 24/7ers"! (8/12/2005 4:44:54 AM)
I liked the post found it well put and funny..It,s a problem i would think a lot of women be they domme or sub suffer from and an issue that should be aired on the message boards.. Have to ask what the hell is bag balm? My thought is it,s a product we don,t get in the UK or we know it by a different name

stormsfate -> RE: Attention Would Be "Relocating 24/7ers"! (8/12/2005 5:57:02 AM)
Padraig posted a link to it above. Its this wonderful, but gooey greasy type of stuff that can produce the softest nipples on the planet...lol. Originally intended for use on cow's udders, it can be used for lots of purposes. Grab a tin of this and a tin of Peterson's Ointment and you will be all set no matter what he wants to do to ya...heehee. best regards, fate

nella -> RE: Attention Would Be "Relocating 24/7ers"! (8/12/2005 6:21:38 AM)
quote: Well, from how I see it, whether I agree or not, is that she is posting because she is FREE (meaning Domme, or whatever dominant term you folks choose to use), and should be able to do so, without being questioned by some uppity, nosy, and holier-than-thou thinking submissive individual. Dominant and submissive, people seem to continue to forget, are not equal, or the same. Raven God help me! I think I see a sleen!...oh thankfully, just the cat, i belived we were on Gor for a moment there.

Angrylibrarian -> RE: Attention Would Be "Relocating 24/7ers"! (8/12/2005 8:47:48 AM)
The male submissive side of the market is vastly different then the female so maybe I have a slightly different take. A.) Their spelling is bad because it’s a foreign language to them. B.) some of these human beings are selling themselves into slavery because the lifestyle attracts them AND they need to get out of their country. (just as i would like to get out of this country someday.) I use slaves; therefore their personal issues and nationalities are not important if they are useful. I find it disturbing to be 'missed' by someone I've never spoken to but maybe the girl from Ghana doesn’t know any other idiom. C.) I use people. There fore if they want to fly to this country and be examined like meat and provide me with a list of their skills and marketable assets, by all means they should. Caring very little for the immigration laws of this country, I'll even see if I can find them entrance into the country if such a thing is possible and they are genuine but they should know I am not looking to 'help' them. One of the things you mention is the burden of caring for slaves as a reason not to entertain their pleading. Agreed, so turn it on its head. Whatever country they are from probably has a lovely textile or other durable goods culture. Procure what you please; allow them to serve you in whatever way they can. Who knows over time they might sell enough of whatever it is they are making for you to afford a plane ticket. D.) lastly, never forget the most basic general rules given to those who seek to serve. Expect nothing, ask for everything. Their expectations, especially during these initial introductions are secondary to your needs. This makes it easier for them as well as for you. No one gets lead on. Once viewed clinically and objectively in this way the market for playthings is a lot less of a hassle, foreign or domestic. -Angry.

nella -> RE: Attention Would Be "Relocating 24/7ers"! (8/12/2005 8:53:59 AM)
Angry, forgive me if i sound rude, but your post did kind of irk me, to take atvantage of pepole from a poorer contry that will do anything to get to a ritcher contry and use them like sex slaves, that is not what i would call consensual. You come aross like a harsh person that would take atvantage of theese poor pepole at a blink of an eye.

KittenWithaTwist -> RE: Attention Would Be "Relocating 24/7ers"! (8/12/2005 8:56:16 AM)
Well, from how I see it, whether I agree or not, is that she is posting because she is FREE (meaning Domme, or whatever dominant term you folks choose to use), and should be able to do so, without being questioned by some uppity, nosy, and holier-than-thou thinking submissive individual. Dominant and submissive, people seem to continue to forget, are not equal, or the same. What in the sam-hell kind of comment is THAT? Not to mention, I've met EmeraldSlave in person, and believe me, that woman knows her way around a whip. Don't assume, Raven. As the saying goes, It makes an ass...out of you.

nella -> RE: Attention Would Be "Relocating 24/7ers"! (8/12/2005 8:59:40 AM)
What Raven do not understand is that the way he acts do not make this comunity look any better at the Gorean lifestyle, he speaks as a Gorean and whit coments like this enforce the flase image many have of them, mostly due to pepole like him, that Goreans is stuck up pepole that can not seperate between fantasy and fiction.

pinkpleasures -> RE: Attention Would Be "Relocating 24/7ers"! (8/12/2005 9:03:19 AM)
hey now..i'm the uppity know-it-all. Aren't i? i so wanted to be. sigh pinkpleasures

KittenWithaTwist -> RE: Attention Would Be "Relocating 24/7ers"! (8/12/2005 9:03:42 AM)
I'm actually very good friends with a Gorean man who lives near me. He doesn't act like that. He treats me (the submissive half of me that is) like a person, not a thing, or an animal. We engage in intelligent conversation. We laugh, play, joke around. This isn't Gorean. This is pathetic.

Angrylibrarian -> RE: Attention Would Be "Relocating 24/7ers"! (8/12/2005 9:12:22 AM)
Its true I come across as harsh there. But taking advantage is what we do to some extent. These people are reaching out to a dominant according to the OP. They seek to serve, to be useful to be used. The dominant has options accordingly. I would be very suspicious of a submissive and especially a slave who said to me I really want to serve, I need to serve, being in service and fully owned is my dream and my nature,.. But don't take advantage of me. So you want to serve without reservation but you don’t want me to take advantage of that? Just a different definition of taking advantage. I'm not here to coddle, nurture, fix, or protect from themselves perspective submissives, regardless of the wealth of the country they come from. And something I should have mentioned, these are purely my thoughts on the matter. I have no personal experience with foreign slaves petitioning to come over. Specifically, one did, I ignored it as a hoax. Also I didnt say anything about sex slaves. I meant to speak about use, usefullness and function. If an owner plans on owning he/she should first realize that in the entirety of human existance the sexual act is but a portion. Now in the example I'm making im speaking of the purely part time ephemeral use of these submissives who are driving the OP batty with their begging.

nella -> RE: Attention Would Be "Relocating 24/7ers"! (8/12/2005 9:52:48 AM)
The case is Angry, the case is this, no, a good Dominant do not take atvangages of the subs, becouse they hook up whita sub that realy want it. To then enyoy the situation is not taking atvantages, what is taking atavantages however is to get somone of a poor contry over to USA, a person so desperate to get a better situation they will say yes to anything. It appear to me from your posts you are the kind of, Dominants is the only one that one needs to worry if benefit from a D/s relationship. Well while this may be true for some, at least should one have a relationship like that, the sub should know what they are getting themself into, and not do it becouse they think they ahve to to inprove on an inpossible economics sitiation.

Angrylibrarian -> RE: Attention Would Be "Relocating 24/7ers"! (8/12/2005 9:54:12 AM)
Point well taken.

ChereeAmoor -> RE: Attention Would Be "Relocating 24/7ers"! (8/12/2005 10:25:35 AM)
Wow - I thought Lady Sonelle's post was humorous, if a little vexed. Almost any adult has had another come along wanting to be rescued, even in VanillaWorld. People have seen me as a Rescue Rhonda, which I am not, and ohhh, how I wish I had had an edited-for-the-occaison letter such as Lady Sonelle wrote to simply hand them!

Fidelity -> RE: Attention Would Be "Relocating 24/7ers"! (8/12/2005 10:47:22 AM)
Slaves are still people,and I always respect that. Consensual slaves are even dicier-you really have to have management skills to run a house with one. That means you not only have to use them,you must see they are provided for in an adequate manner. No practical Master looks at taking anyone on without some pretty firm expectations, and competent plans in effect-even before a slave shows up on the horizon. At the very least, a slave must be able to earn thier keep-and at the most,profit you. Now while many may view slaves as sex toys,etc...only well heeled people can afford to keep a person around ONLY for that. Vanilla life is still going to be the biggest part of day to day routines. So in most lower to mid level income houses,utility from the slave is of the utmost importance. I think that one of the problems we have from those who like the op,are looking for slaves-is that you must be VERY clear about your expectations,qualifications and what benefits the slave can expect in return for thier service. Having them do something as simple as fill out a job resume does wonders in weeding out the fantasy players. Those who realize that work will be involved ,and are just looking for a free ride, will be very discouraged by this. So the initial onus is on the Dominant to express those expectations clearly,without ambiguity-and at length. Vague assertions of power, and the promise of a roof over a head are simply not going to cut it. Especially with someone who is expected to uproot thier entire life to come and be of service. Lazy, slipshod, Dominance is every bit as bad as it's slave counterpart. Know the game-or just don't play it.

bmcelhinney -> RE: Attention Would Be "Relocating 24/7ers"! (8/12/2005 10:53:53 AM)
quote: "I'm willing to relocate from East BumFukistan RIGHT NOW!" quote: Darling, you need all three of your braincells to enable you to continue breathing without assistance! Don't waste any on proofreading or you may suffocate. Since your condition is so extreme, I couldn't dream of enslaving you and causing further harm to what seems at best a marginal organism clinging to life! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA Thanks for the laugh [:)]

Angrylibrarian -> RE: Attention Would Be "Relocating 24/7ers"! (8/12/2005 12:23:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Fidelity Slaves are still people,and I always respect that. Consensual slaves are even dicier-you really have to have management skills to run a house with one. That means you not only have to use them,you must see they are provided for in an adequate manner. No practical Master looks at taking anyone on without some pretty firm expectations, and competent plans in effect-even before a slave shows up on the horizon. At the very least, a slave must be able to earn thier keep-and at the most,profit you. Now while many may view slaves as sex toys,etc...only well heeled people can afford to keep a person around ONLY for that. Vanilla life is still going to be the biggest part of day to day routines. So in most lower to mid level income houses,utility from the slave is of the utmost importance. I think that one of the problems we have from those who like the op,are looking for slaves-is that about your expectations,qualifications and what benefits the slave can expect in return for thier service. Having them do something as simple as fill out a job resume does wonders in weeding out the fantasy players. Those who realize that work will be involved ,and are just looking for a free ride, will be very discouraged by this. So the initial onus is on the Dominant to express those expectations clearly,without ambiguity-and at length. Vague assertions of power, and the promise of a roof over a head are simply not going to cut it. Especially with someone who is expected to uproot thier entire life to come and be of service. Lazy, slipshod, Dominance is every bit as bad as it's slave counterpart. Know the game-or just don't play it. Hey, Thats what i said! [8\|] I agree and it goes both ways. Question, what would you define this as ? quote: you must be VERY clear about your expectations,qualifications and what benefits the slave can expect in return for thier service What benefits do you believe a slave should require?

KittenWithaTwist -> RE: Attention Would Be "Relocating 24/7ers"! (8/12/2005 12:38:52 PM)
What benefits should a slave require? Well, when I think of a slave, I think 24/7 live in. So, I would think room and board would be good, a roof over the slave's head, a bed or other appropriate and moderately comfortable place to sleep, some way to purchase clothing (if she'll be working outside the home-either have it provided or give the girl means to purchase her own), a portion of her wages kept in her own bank account to cover herself in the event that the relationship does not work out, food and water (preferably something that tastes good, but not necessarily a requirement), transportation (either with walking shoes, bus fare, cab fare, a bicycle, a scooter, a car...something), access to her family and friends through the telephone, stationary and stamps, or the internet, and a specific time of day set aside to relax, meditate, reflect, and just ...be. Those would be my requirement for a slave and as a slave.

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