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RE: ever punished for journals? - 11/27/2007 10:06:39 AM

IamJustMe2C

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I never punished pver a journal. I use it as a tool to see the mental state of the sub and we talk about it thats it. She knows its a safe place that no matter what she writes in there she will not be punnished for it. I even make sure to tell her that she can put in there that she hates me for this or that and it will never be used against her. Her journal is for us and after she has written in it for a while I have her read it from the begining so she can see her growth that she has made. Things that she once hated she now loves and wants more of. Things she once tollerated she still does but with much less distane. things she loved she now thrives for more. It is also a nice cuddle time to read together and I used to like to put little things in it my self. I would write little notes to her in it. But those days are gone and the memories are still there.

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RE: ever punished for journals? - 11/27/2007 10:24:44 AM

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So has anyone ever had their Dom punish them for what they wrote in a sub/slave journal? Or maybe use something they wrote against them later?

Nope. I don't journal here, but my journals are places for my thoughts and feelings about everything, good and bad.

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RE: ever punished for journals? - 11/27/2007 12:10:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: kittyinpink
So has anyone ever had their Dom punish them for what they wrote in a sub/slave journal? Or maybe use something they wrote against them later?

I write out my thoughts and feelings daily for my Master to read. We've never really called this journaling, but I suppose that is what it is. I reveal everything to him - the good, the bad and the ugly - by way of letters to him. If I express myself inappropriately to him, he will deal with that, but I haven't done that in ages so it's not an issue. As for not liking something I write, he must know all that goes on in my head and heart, and if there is something he sees that needs correcting, he corrects it. Not through punishment but through conversation and sometimes various exercises. I think there was one time that I expressed something very negative about our relationship and he dealt with it rather strongly. Whether or not it was a punishment, I don't really know. I just know he felt a strong need to understand, evaluate and correct my thinking and used strong means in which to do so.

So, I think it's safe to say I am not punished for my thoughts, but inappropriate thoughts are corrected. If I write to him and confess a misbehavior or error in judgment, he may decide to punish me for it if he feels it's appropriate. For example, he allowed me two glasses of wine while with my sister last night. We gabbed all night, eating, sipping, talking. And when I turned around to clear the dishes from the table, she refilled my glass. I didn't even notice, since we were so wrapped up in conversation. As the wine was going to my head, I realized I probably had the equivalent of three glasses. I wrote to him of it with an apology before going to bed, knowing he might address and even punish me for not being focused and aware, and for not paying attention. He opted not to, however, but if he had, then such would be life.

Recently someone's owner emailed me, trying to berate me for something she wasn't sure my Master would approve of. If it were not so comical to me, knowing the dynamic between my Master and I, it would be ridiculously insulting. I wrote to him of this as well, so he would know my "crime" and deal with it if he felt the need. As I suspected, he didn't even feel the need to respond to me about it.

So hmm, this was a long way of saying that yes, I might be punished for what's in the content of my journals, but I not typically punished for thoughts.

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RE: ever punished for journals? - 11/27/2007 4:39:04 PM

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i have an online journal. Daddy doesnt read it, but he knows its there, and when i have something i want to share with him, i copy it to him in an email. then again, i email Daddy all the time and tell him where my mindspace is, so he knows whats going on with me.

i recently had to change the settings in the journal....not because of Daddy though. i use humor sometimes to handle frustration, and someone else read the journal and it's caused a huge rift. *sighs* gotta love drama...

kitten, who prefers peace.

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RE: ever punished for journals? - 11/28/2007 11:02:59 AM

kittyinpink

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Once He assigned me an essay that I was to post in my journal. The essay was over something I disagreed with Him over, and although I did what He said, I couldn't help but add my feelings that He was kinda wrong. I probably should have gotten punished for that, but because I was creative about it, and not rude, He ended up enjoying it and sent me a long response.

Although I did get a couple new rules added to prevent the situation from happening again, but I dont' necessarily see that as punishment.

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RE: ever punished for journals? - 11/28/2007 12:14:28 PM

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I have never been punished over what was in a journal - but have been punished for forgetting to email it to Him one evening! I have never kept an online journal and so my journal was only for his eyes - he was annoyed when i forgot to send it! I had a week of no contact!!

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RE: ever punished for journals? - 11/28/2007 2:02:56 PM

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I am fairly new to being "owned" but enjoy this greatly with my current Master. He is kind, patient and gentle in our everyday lives.

All things being open to one's Master, it seems to me, and I have done so, require our consideration of his feelings, his position. As, I dare to say, in turn with him considering we, his slaves.

Open, loving communication is well had before revealing things to the outside world. This is consideration, respect, on both parts.

A tender but firm hand is what I blossom under. Perhaps this is not for all?

Peace to all.

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RE: ever punished for journals? - 11/28/2007 2:12:50 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: kittyinpink

It seems like alot of subs on here journal, so I have a journaling question.

I was reading another subs livejournal and had a post that talked about her Dom using some of her journal entries against her. I think the instance was along the lines of she expressed hatred for a certain flogger, and so he started to use it on her more for saying she hated it in her journal.

So has anyone ever had their Dom punish them for what they wrote in a sub/slave journal? Or maybe use something they wrote against them later?

I am required to journal daily. My Sir told me my journal is my "safe place" I can express whatever I want (in a respectful way of course) without concern for punishment.

girly

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RE: ever punished for journals? - 11/28/2007 2:21:02 PM

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Greetings kittyinpink:

*smiles*

Master has told me to journal whenever i feel that i can not speak to Him personally about my feelings. He has also said that unless there is something in it that shows that i have done something harmful to myself or others that He will not punish me for what i post in my journal.

originally Master had said to post daily, but due to not always having something worthwhile putting in my journal He has said that when i feel the urge to write that i may do so.

He has never used anything i have written against me.

there are a lot of things i write in my journal ranging from how my day was to how frustrated i am with a personal situation that has to do with my family and things that happen at work or when a Master or Mistress compliments me on something i have written on the boards or in my journal entries here on collarme.

wishing you well and hoping you find the answers you seek,
aeleberaNB

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RE: ever punished for journals? - 11/28/2007 2:38:25 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: girlygurl

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittyinpink

It seems like alot of subs on here journal, so I have a journaling question.

I was reading another subs livejournal and had a post that talked about her Dom using some of her journal entries against her. I think the instance was along the lines of she expressed hatred for a certain flogger, and so he started to use it on her more for saying she hated it in her journal.

So has anyone ever had their Dom punish them for what they wrote in a sub/slave journal? Or maybe use something they wrote against them later?

I am required to journal daily. My Sir told me my journal is my "safe place" I can express whatever I want (in a respectful way of course) without concern for punishment.

girly

Absolutely! I have always and forever had mine journal and it is indeed the safe place. I always stipulated that it is up for my review and if there is anything there that I, or they, felt needed discussion then it was discussed. However that is a submissive's own space and mine/husband knows that.

Much of the time I have little interest in reading it as it usually does not pertain to me. Though when it does pertain to me, our relationship, or anything of import to him, he knows I am always there to discuss it with him.

Never, never, ever would or could I punish, denegrate or be foolish regarding anything contained within it's pages.

EG

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RE: ever punished for journals? - 11/28/2007 8:41:03 PM

MasterofScyn

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I have not had a journal since I was about 17-18... I had a bad experience with people reading my journal, it caused a lot pain .... Was a huge lesson to never write a journal again.

Scyn ~

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RE: ever punished for journals? - 11/28/2007 10:00:37 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: kittyinpink

It seems like alot of subs on here journal, so I have a journaling question.

I was reading another subs livejournal and had a post that talked about her Dom using some of her journal entries against her. I think the instance was along the lines of she expressed hatred for a certain flogger, and so he started to use it on her more for saying she hated it in her journal.

So has anyone ever had their Dom punish them for what they wrote in a sub/slave journal? Or maybe use something they wrote against them later?

No. I don't do punish for journals nor would I accept it if the role was reversed.

Now, I *may* feel that a sub/slave wrote about an area that their thoughts and feelings indicated that that was an area we needed to work in. This would not ever be done in a vindictive or negative manner, though. Rather, we would back up a bit and work slowly forward with that method or issue -or, depending like with the flogger example, this may be changed to a disciplinary consideration. As in, that flogger may not be used for play anymore but for punishment/discipline only.

Basically, yes, I would work with the information given but I would never punish someone for expressing a dislike or unhappiness in their journal. The only outcome I can really see in that is them not being as open and honest in their future journalling.

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RE: ever punished for journals? - 11/29/2007 10:19:07 AM

kittyinpink

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I have bunch of handwritten journals that go from now all the way back to 7th grade. I've told Him upfront that I can't share those under any circumstances. But sometimes I'll take a journal entry from my handwritten journal and include it on my online one, which He has access to.

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RE: ever punished for journals? - 11/29/2007 6:42:09 PM

sammy7626

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quote:

ORIGINAL: kittyinpink

It seems like alot of subs on here journal, so I have a journaling question.

I was reading another subs livejournal and had a post that talked about her Dom using some of her journal entries against her. I think the instance was along the lines of she expressed hatred for a certain flogger, and so he started to use it on her more for saying she hated it in her journal.

So has anyone ever had their Dom punish them for what they wrote in a sub/slave journal? Or maybe use something they wrote against them later?

No. I've had him read my journals, and get upset about things I've said. He's been hurt and angered by things I've said. But I've never been punished.

I still tell him things, and I post in LJ quite often, but the things I say that I could get "in trouble" for, those go into a diary, that unless I say otherwise is wholly private. I vent in my journals. That's what they're for. Eventually yes, things need to be communicated, but not until after the initial overload of emotion has been sated and expunged.

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RE: ever punished for journals? - 11/30/2007 4:32:30 AM

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Jesus that depends on the dynamic. I know that when I say I dislike something that can get his Cock harder. And that is fine with me. Actually makes me feel well used. Makes my cunt wet in the end that he will have the balls to do that to me. I would not perceive that as using the info "against me." Just not my point of view.

quote:

ORIGINAL: kittyinpink

It seems like alot of subs on here journal, so I have a journaling question.

I was reading another subs livejournal and had a post that talked about her Dom using some of her journal entries against her. I think the instance was along the lines of she expressed hatred for a certain flogger, and so he started to use it on her more for saying she hated it in her journal.

So has anyone ever had their Dom punish them for what they wrote in a sub/slave journal? Or maybe use something they wrote against them later?

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Is it not most transformative, most earthshaking, to pierce the veils of self-deception and illusion, and crack the eggshell of ignorance, to most intimately encounter oneself? Lama Surya Das

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RE: ever punished for journals? - 11/30/2007 5:48:15 AM

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I am well aware of the tendency to manipulate that can come from having a journal. Journals can be a good secondary way of communicating, but something that's really important shouldn't be mentioned in a journal first, especially if it's read by other people...that just seems very manipulative and shady to me.

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RE: ever punished for journals? - 11/30/2007 4:20:58 PM

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nothing in mine have ever been turned against me .. if somethings wrong we sit and talk about whats in the enrty and work through it .. but never once have i been in trouble for anything in my journals .. its what i feel and what happened that day or what i think .. why should i be punished for thinking something .. it helps him know me better ..

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RE: ever punished for journals? - 11/30/2007 4:45:24 PM

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Daddy doesn't read my journal, though it's a rule that I must write in it each. However, there isn't anything in the journal that he doesn't know.

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RE: ever punished for journals? - 11/30/2007 5:30:38 PM

elderrook

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I've never had anything I wrote in my journal used against me.

I did upset my Mistress at one point by what I wrote, simply as a matter of miscommunication. I used it to vent, and she had been hoping for something with a little more substance and insight to how I felt, rather than what I had written.

I was able to get her points about it, and correct what I had done, but I know it was something she felt bad about and let me know it.

I don't consider that being punished, though. We turned it into good communication, and that was the original purpose for it.

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RE: ever punished for journals? - 12/1/2007 6:09:20 AM

sambamanslilgirl

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nope

it's my words, my opinions and my feelings being expressed on my CM journal. i don't see any reason of getting punished because i'm criticizing my Doms.

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