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RE: Nature versus Nuture - 8/13/2005 5:40:00 AM   
GentleLady


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Do you ever think that the reason you do WIITWD has something to do with the way you were raised, or the way external stimuli affected you over the years? Do you think something in a past life (if you believe in that) changed you into someone who enjoys an activity and a sexual lifestyle that is so out on the fringe of contemporary society?

Do you believe that you are born with this need to be dom or sub or both, or that something made you this way?

First off kittenwithatwist...you are not alone with that kind of a past.

For Myself I believe that I was born with strong Dominant characteristics and needs. I have both stories from My parents and personal memories that support this. My birth family encouraged Me to be Dominant so these traits grew.

Sidebar: same parents and environment pretty much for My younger brother but he is naturally submissive and My father always looked down on him for that fact and shamed him for it....environment plays a major role in shaping what you are born with as far as I am concerned (like sub4hire pointed out).

However My overall environment tried to teach Me to be submissive at work and as a partner. My first husband was submissive by nature (based on hindsight) but I helped destroy that relationship by trying to teach him to be more dominant (as I had been shown by My parents). My next 2 husbands were Dominant and although I tried hard, I could not be submissive even to save My life. Finally I was formally introduced to BDSM and found a name for what I was. Knowing that there were others like Me out there and a lifestyle where I could be accepted for who I really was made it possible for Me to live up to My original potential.

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RE: Nature versus Nuture - 8/13/2005 7:11:17 AM   
LadyJulieAnn


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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

What about people who were born with their kinks, but also have no abuse in their family, no issues with gender and grew up in a loving, supportive nuclear family with two parents that remained married and in love, and siblings that lived in harmony?

I've had a fascination with putting men into positions of helplessness and bondage starting with cartoons. It is among my earliest memories, pre-sexual development, pre-orgasm, and has no foundation with any sexual games played in youth or fetishes developed. Nor does it come from any relationship issues with men - father, uncles, brothers.

What clearly affected my "is she gonna be a screwed up kid?" odds is that I didn't go through a self-loathing stage, an insecure period, a "oh my god I must be a freak" stage or anything that led to isolation, social insecurity or fear of relationships. I am grateful to my parents for that, because we were raised in a loving, supportive household. If they had been overly strict or sexually repressed, I might have screwed myself up pretty bad in my own head from wondering why I was so different.

But they certainly were not liberal either. I grew up with a conservative family and a lot of structure. I think the key is having parents that build self worth in their kids and good self image -- then they don't get traumatized in their teens as they try to develop an identity.


Akasha


I also had early beginnings (from around age 7) with "feeling different" when seeing people helpless on TV and in movies. Back then, I used to tie up my dolls and draw little ropes and gags on people in magazines . It certainly wasn't sexually related at that age, but those interests stayed with me through the years in various forms. I also had a happy childhood and stable family life and am not sure why I had those interests, but I tend to believe that, in some people, having a predisposition to being dominant or submissive is already there, hardwired in our brains. Different events in our lives may bring out the side we identify with later in our lives.

Be well,
Julie

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RE: Nature versus Nuture - 8/13/2005 7:15:46 AM   
nella


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Hehehe i used to tie up my dolls to, and torture them. But that might be me being a bit morbid.

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RE: Nature versus Nuture - 8/13/2005 7:45:03 AM   
Shayna


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Kitten, your urge to make sense of your past and explore your identity as a young adult is a very positive thing. I hope it leads to much acceptance of what happened without your consent, and helps you to love and appreciate the complex, lovely person you are now. I'm the poster child for the why-am-I-this-way club, and my advice is that there is no "right answer". It's only been with advancing age and hindsight that I've been able to look back on my life (so far) and see the repeating patterns, which has helped me understand what parts of me are healthy and productive and which parts are maladaptive and in need of change.



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