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Politesub53 -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 6:38:14 PM)
i canty understand why some people find the exchange of cash reprehensible. It may not be your way of doing things, but for some guys, they are okay with it. i am always at a loss as to why so many on an adult web site are so judgmental. While something may not be right for me, if its right for others then so be it.

velvetears -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 6:40:55 PM)
Thanks to all the Mistresses who answered my question [:)] It's interesting but i don't think i have ever heard verbalized from female submissives the amount of bitterness about not getting sex as i have heard verbalized here from bottomboy. i am no Mistress but his whinyness and insulting manner make me angry and able to see your side of the coin a little better and i understand why i see the attitudes and stances i see from some female dommes. you aint got it easy that's for sure!

kc692 -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 6:43:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bottomboy81 The dommes don't care about that, its all about what they want and this is somehow supposed to remain a healthy relationship. A normal person wouldn't stay in one if they were not satisfied. Not to mention, is a human being normal if they have no feelings for sex? unless they have a bad sex drive. Wow....really appreciate you lumping everyone together. Bad news for you, even though you are looking for a top, lots of them are dommes, and with some dommes, they have d/s relationships and also relationships or scening that is not d/s based. Good luck on impressing the ones that top for the fun of it without the d/s from time to time..got a feeling you may need it. disclaimer: only clicked on about 3 posts on this thread expecting to see humor from the title...this happened to be one of the ones I clicked, and dammit, lack of humor in it for sure.

kc692 -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 6:48:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bottomboy81 quote: ORIGINAL: SweetDommes self labling, I see ... The whole "female species" thing is just silly. If we were a separate species, then there would be no continuation of the species ... and without fail, the only people who use the "female species/male species" are those who are bitter about being rejected and/or just general haters of the opposite gender (which might just explain why they continue to be rejected). And yes, I'm just as snarky to those who claim that males are a separate species in such a bitter, cynical and overly generalized manner as you just used "female species". ya ya what ever, I think being rejected 99 percent of the time validates bitterness. Its really a miracle that most men still like women from after years of rejection. Women are bitter all the time as men always have to prove them selfs that they are not after women to only use them. Kinda like guilty until proven innocent. Yet a womans bitterness is always more validated and they make the rules and are on top of the game. But than again, a lot of todays women are shameless hypocrites, what else is new. Decided to do a quick scroll backwards and see what this one had to say(knew what I saw just couldnt be the first post). One question springs to mind...ever wonder why, and I quote a snippet: being rejected 99 percent of the time I'm betting I know why.[8\|] And now I'm off to other threads. I know there is more here from the bitter boy, but I don't believe I'll look anymore.

ShaktiSama -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 6:51:30 PM)
Translated for the Misogynist Smacktard Impaired: quote: ORIGINAL: Smith117 This statement right here pretty much sums up what I've seen on most sites. Caption: "I spend a lot of time on the Internet, and it has taught me a great deal about real people in the real world..." quote: One thing I have noticed, is that typically it can be explained this way. (note all you lovely flamers I said "typically") Caption: "I'm about to vomit up a stream of cliches and gender stereotypes. Those in the front row may wish to deploy their umbrellas now." quote: "Typically," male doms are mostly about sex and passion and controlling their female slaves' bodies. (Hearts and minds not withstanding of coruse) "Typically," female dommes are mostly about controlling their slaves' wallets. Caption: "Boys are into sex for sex. Girls are into sex for money. Especially when it comes to sex with me. This is especially if I meet them on-line, or on the street in the poorer parts of town." quote: So.....the woman expects to be treated like a princess...and showered with money or whatever....yet she is unwilling to satisfy a most basic male need? Caption: "Dominant men, of course, do not expect to be treated like princes, and they are always falling over themselves to satisfy the basic needs of women. All boy doms are universally groovy that way." quote: I can tell I'm winding up to a full-blown rant about women and their antics, so I'll cut this short. For now anyway. Caption: "I hate women. But I'm still entitled to sex with women. So is every man. Because of our pipes. It's a man thing, you wouldn't understand." We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

Smith117 -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 7:06:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 i canty understand why some people find the exchange of cash reprehensible. It may not be your way of doing things, but for some guys, they are okay with it. i am always at a loss as to why so many on an adult web site are so judgmental. While something may not be right for me, if its right for others then so be it. Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not judging the exchange of cash. Only the attempts to dress it up as something else. Prostitution is one of the oldest professions on earth and there's nothing wrong with it. But don't dress it up as something else. If you're a whore, say so. Own it. That's all I'm saying.

Shawn1066 -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 7:10:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama Translated for the Misogynist Smacktard Impaired: quote: ORIGINAL: Smith117 This statement right here pretty much sums up what I've seen on most sites. Caption: "I spend a lot of time on the Internet, and it has taught me a great deal about real people in the real world..." quote: One thing I have noticed, is that typically it can be explained this way. (note all you lovely flamers I said "typically") Caption: "I'm about to vomit up a stream of cliches and gender stereotypes. Those in the front row may wish to deploy their umbrellas now." quote: "Typically," male doms are mostly about sex and passion and controlling their female slaves' bodies. (Hearts and minds not withstanding of coruse) "Typically," female dommes are mostly about controlling their slaves' wallets. Caption: "Boys are into sex for sex. Girls are into sex for money. Especially when it comes to sex with me. This is especially if I meet them on-line, or on the street in the poorer parts of town." quote: So.....the woman expects to be treated like a princess...and showered with money or whatever....yet she is unwilling to satisfy a most basic male need? Caption: "Dominant men, of course, do not expect to be treated like princes, and they are always falling over themselves to satisfy the basic needs of women. All boy doms are universally groovy that way." quote: I can tell I'm winding up to a full-blown rant about women and their antics, so I'll cut this short. For now anyway. Caption: "I hate women. But I'm still entitled to sex with women. So is every man. Because of our pipes. It's a man thing, you wouldn't understand." We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming. Bravo!

Smith117 -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 7:13:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama Translated for the Misogynist Smacktard Impaired: quote: ORIGINAL: Smith117 This statement right here pretty much sums up what I've seen on most sites. Caption: "I spend a lot of time on the Internet, and it has taught me a great deal about real people in the real world..." quote: One thing I have noticed, is that typically it can be explained this way. (note all you lovely flamers I said "typically") Caption: "I'm about to vomit up a stream of cliches and gender stereotypes. Those in the front row may wish to deploy their umbrellas now." quote: "Typically," male doms are mostly about sex and passion and controlling their female slaves' bodies. (Hearts and minds not withstanding of coruse) "Typically," female dommes are mostly about controlling their slaves' wallets. Caption: "Boys are into sex for sex. Girls are into sex for money. Especially when it comes to sex with me. This is especially if I meet them on-line, or on the street in the poorer parts of town." quote: So.....the woman expects to be treated like a princess...and showered with money or whatever....yet she is unwilling to satisfy a most basic male need? Caption: "Dominant men, of course, do not expect to be treated like princes, and they are always falling over themselves to satisfy the basic needs of women. All boy doms are universally groovy that way." quote: I can tell I'm winding up to a full-blown rant about women and their antics, so I'll cut this short. For now anyway. Caption: "I hate women. But I'm still entitled to sex with women. So is every man. Because of our pipes. It's a man thing, you wouldn't understand." We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming. Wow, the flames are flying now. I'd reply to this one if it weren't so retarded. Try attacking my statements rather than me if you care to actually contribute. Funny, I knew some wouldn't be able to resist the flames.....and like the pied piper's mice, here you come.

laurell3 -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 7:18:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: laurell3 For you, politesub, I might do that, because you my friend are a delight. (edited to add: you should remember you actually asked me to cook breakfast for you when you try to eat it though....hahaha) Laurell, if you fulfilled my first request eating raw eggs would be a small price to pay.. [;)] raw eggs it is then! (honestly they're probably better than me cooking them)

bottomboy81 -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 7:21:30 PM)
quote: i understand why i see the attitudes and stances i see from some female dommes. you aint got it easy that's for sure This would be the most ironic comment I have seen so far on this forum. To say that the dommes have it hard is just laughable. This also basically means that a man is not allowed to have his freedom of speech or point of view. If he does, it somehow means that the dommes are the victims and the man is in the wrong but its perfectly okay for the dommes to have their points of views no matter how negative it is. After all, men only think with their dicks in their view and if sex is a mans idea, it means he is being selfish and only thinking about his dick. Its only validated when sex is the womans idea. There is no existence of a woman only thinking of her vagina if sex is their idea, this only applies to men. Basically only a woman can make the rules of when a man should think about sex and how he should approach it. Kc692, maybe you should read my other post above about the matter you expressed.

ShaktiSama -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 7:29:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Smith117 Wow, the flames are flying now. I'd reply to this one if it weren't so retarded. Try attacking my statements rather than me if you care to actually contribute. I believe I accomplished both, actually. I saw no reason to separate the two. Unlike a fool and his money, a fool and his foolishness are NOT soon parted. So...how about YOU try giving orders to a woman who takes them. I'll contribute whatever I goddamn please. For such a sensitive guy who doesn't like being personally attacked, you sure throw around words like "whore" awfully easily. Guess you don't feel the same about words like "asshole"...

LadyPact -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 7:29:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thetammyjo quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact At this point, you might be wondering why I'm "getting Mine", but he isn't getting his. The answer for this is that sexual intercourse is one of his few hard limits. This was an arrangement that was understood before I collared him. Do I wish sometimes that he didn't have that particular limit? Of course I do. Still, the limit is his, and I respect it. It's also a fact that it does not require intercourse for a man to orgasm or ejaculate. One of Fox's hard limits is also intercourse because he 100% does not want offspring and he is smart enough to know that if you play the game, even when you rig everything in your favor, things will still not go your way at some point. He (and I and Tom too for that matter) all think that even a minor risk is too great a risk when it comes to creating a human life. Does Fox orgasm? Yes! Very rarely with me but that is his preference actually because he's more fetish inclined and loves to focus on me when it comes to sex. Every man is different as is every woman in terms of sex. We do a grave disservice to humanity when we repeat stereotypes about the sexes. It's especially harmful in my opinion when the stereotypes are promoted by the members of a group about themselves. I hope the post wasn't misleading in terms of release. It wasn't My intention at all. I was trying to explain the particular circumstances between how I was terming My reply to the original. In My attempt to eliminate confusion, I may have caused some. Hopefully, the basic point was still understood. There really are submissive males out there who neither request, nor require actual intercourse as a part of their BDSM fulfillment. I realize this might be different than the OP was shooting for, but it's also a valid point. It really goes back to that whole thing about finding the match that's right for a particular person. Like you, Tammyjo, I have a husband that fills that need for Me, so it isn't essential for that to be filled be My submissive. Shall I talk about the money next? Why not? Can of worms was already opened anyway. Not all of Us are in this for the money either. I won't deny that My sub has bought Me things for My birthday, or while W/we were out shopping together. There have even been a couple of times that he was faster with his wallet than I was with My purse when W/we were out together and I had intended on paying. Normally, he doesn't have My permission to do so without specifically asking first. Since he does cook when he's here, at times, he'll buy food for the family dinner. Also, he's picked up some things for the house that make his chores more comfortable for him. As W/we move closer together as a family, this is becoming his home, too, so I don't deny him those things. Before I forget....... Velveteers, you are very welcome. Shawn, you're becoming a very appreciated addition to these boards. DV, I'm glad to see you've got such a good one there.

Smith117 -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 7:36:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama quote: ORIGINAL: Smith117 Wow, the flames are flying now. I'd reply to this one if it weren't so retarded. Try attacking my statements rather than me if you care to actually contribute. I believe I accomplished both, actually. I saw no reason to separate the two. Unlike a fool and his money, a fool and his foolishness are NOT soon parted. So...how about YOU try giving orders to a woman who takes them. I'll contribute whatever I goddamn please. For such a sensitive guy who doesn't like being personally attacked, you sure throw around words like "whore" awfully easily. Guess you don't feel the same about words like "asshole"... Actually, I am an asshole and quite proud of it. Worked very hard to become one, thanks for noticing. Second, it's funny you see 'whore' as an insult. So many of them exist today it's unreal. And it IS a profession. I simple think the ones demanding money should take the moniker and own it. Don't beat around the bush. Guess you're a closet case, not ready to own the title. Lest you would not have been offended. Oh well.

ShaktiSama -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 7:46:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Smith117 Actually, I am an asshole and quite proud of it. That explains so much. quote: Second, it's funny you see 'whore' as an insult. No, what's "funny" is that you think you're entitled to choose the labels that other people have to live with. Guess what--you aren't. For the record, no dominant woman has to let you call her "whore" because she's dominant. In much the same way that I don't have to let you call me "gash" because I'm female, or "kike" because my father was Jewish. I'm offended because you're offensive. And for the record, I'm beating you up verbally because 1) you have it coming, 2) I enjoy it and 3) some of the nice submissive men who post here might actually find it a turn-on to see me put you on the ground and grind the tip of my stiletto into your nostril, intellectually speaking.

stef -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 7:52:59 PM)
*What have you done to make the kind of woman you seek want you?* Come on bottomboy, let's hear it. ~stef

LotusSong -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 7:53:01 PM)
It's like this.. most guys want sex as an outcome with an interaction with a woman. Women enjoy playing. It's how we keep you focused on US and not your dick. The longer we make you wait.. then the longer we can drive you nuts. Males say they wanted to serve.. we are just making sure they are serving the way we wish. If all you expect is sex..and are just putting up with our activities to get it..then what good are you?

kc692 -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 8:05:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef *What have you done to make the kind of woman you seek want you?* Come on bottomboy, let's hear it. ~stef Yeah, I'll come back to the thread myself, I'm interested in that answer myself!!!

DianeB269 -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 8:08:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef *What have you done to make the kind of woman you seek want you?* Come on bottomboy, let's hear it. ~stef I would love to hear it too. Diane

kc692 -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 8:22:36 PM)
watches to see line form to see if an actual answer arises or if he disappears

Smith117 -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 8:32:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama quote: ORIGINAL: Smith117 Actually, I am an asshole and quite proud of it. That explains so much. quote: Second, it's funny you see 'whore' as an insult. No, what's "funny" is that you think you're entitled to choose the labels that other people have to live with. Guess what--you aren't. For the record, no dominant woman has to let you call her "whore" because she's dominant. In much the same way that I don't have to let you call me "gash" because I'm female, or "kike" because my father was Jewish. I'm offended because you're offensive. And for the record, I'm beating you up verbally because 1) you have it coming, 2) I enjoy it and 3) some of the nice submissive men who post here might actually find it a turn-on to see me put you on the ground and grind the tip of my stiletto into your nostril, intellectually speaking. Good! Now I'll tell you what I find funny. I find it hilarious that you think you read in my post something about dominant women being whores. I didn't say anything of the kind actually. I said 'typically' the princess dommes are only after money. Oh sure they say "tribute" but we all know what that means. I also find it funny you jump right in, calling me an asshole in one breath and then in the next, you say I have no right to label people. That's funny. What's that line about a kettle and a pot again? Now then, to address the other labels you put in my mouth....I'd never call anyone Jewish that word. I don't label people according to their beliefs or skin or anything for that matter. No, I save my labels for people's actions and the way they act. Which brings me to the other 'label' you put in my mouth - gash. And you know what? In your case, I think I'll own that one. You are what you act like. I'm big enough to say and be proud of being an ass. What about you? Can you own up to being a gash for jumping someone for something that you so clearly 'read in' to their statements? Tell you what? Lose the 'stillettoes' and re-read my first message. I won't make you say you're sorry, we can just keep that as an unspoken assumption between us, k? ;-)

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