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bottomboy81 -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 8:39:06 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: stef

What have you done to make the kind of woman you seek want you?

Come on bottomboy, let's hear it.

~stef



In the past, I have simply approached women and told them what I have to offer and asked them about them selves. I have simply made polite emails showing my interest. But no matter how most men do their emails, there is a very high chance that it will just ignored or a sorry email saying no thanks. What else do the women here expect men to do? Start doing back flips and pulling a circus act to get you interested? I understand that a lot of dommes don't want "bottoms" but I used to check out their profile and try to figure out for my self if they would be interested in topping. Now as I stand, I don't approach anyone no more. Its a waste of time. Even if I wasn't bitter as we speak, I would still be here with nothing.

With todays women being extremely judgmental, I will never understand why the fault is put on most men. You have to be blind to not see that women generally have higher expectations than men. Criticise me all you want for generalising but all you have to do is look around. The people who have unrealistic or extremely high expectations are the ones who are throwing the spanner in the works. The male population can only offer what they are offering now, if what we are offering does not come to your satisfaction, you obviously have unrealistic expectations. You can only expect things that exist.

But anyway this is resulting to the same old shaming tactic game which is used on every man who is showing bitterness. A logical thinker may have the answer. A person is not born bitter or just all the sudden turns bitter for no reason. It takes some thing to get them bitter the first place which in this case is getting ignored all the time. To tell me that a woman would never get bitter if she had this problem is a lie. Why is it invalidated for a man to feel bitter? Women even get their ego broken when they are rejected sex, this is some thing men are used to. It would be interesting to see the result if they had it like men do if being rejected by one man is a drama.





ShaktiSama -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 8:44:51 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Smith117

I also find it funny you jump right in, calling me an asshole in one breath and then in the next, you say I have no right to label people.


*sweetly*  I never called you an asshole, dear.  You called yourself that.  And said you were proud of it.

quote:

Now then, to address the other labels you put in my mouth....I'd never call anyone Jewish that word. I don't label people according to their beliefs or skin or anything for that matter.


No, you label people according to their gender.  Guess what?  You're still a hateful bigot.

quote:

Tell you what? Lose the 'stillettoes' and re-read my first message.


I've already read your first message and responded to it, remember?  Believe me, nothing you write is worth reading twice.

If you want to imagine I'm sorry for finding you offensive, you can.  You can also imagine that I'm impressed, or that calling women "whores" is acceptable behavior.  But believe me, you are mistaken on all three counts.




Smith117 -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 8:53:23 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

quote:

ORIGINAL: Smith117

I also find it funny you jump right in, calling me an asshole in one breath and then in the next, you say I have no right to label people.


*sweetly*  I never called you an asshole, dear.  You called yourself that.  And said you were proud of it.

quote:

Now then, to address the other labels you put in my mouth....I'd never call anyone Jewish that word. I don't label people according to their beliefs or skin or anything for that matter.


No, you label people according to their gender.  Guess what?  You're still a hateful bigot.

quote:

Tell you what? Lose the 'stillettoes' and re-read my first message.


I've already read your first message and responded to it, remember?  Believe me, nothing you write is worth reading twice.

If you want to imagine I'm sorry for finding you offensive, you can.  You can also imagine that I'm impressed, or that calling women "whores" is acceptable behavior.  But believe me, you are mistaken on all three counts.


Ahh like the stereotypical woman, you only read or hear what you want. And refuse to admit when you're wrong. It takes much more than that to be dominant, honey.

If you'd bothered to read any of what I actually wrote (note I said what I actually wrote, not what your mind made you see on the screen) you'd see that I never judged anyone for being anything. I simply said there are a large number of 'tribute dommes' and that those tribute dommes, should just own up to being prostitutes, as last time I checked, taking money for sexual services (this IS a sexually-based lifestyle let's remember) then they are, by definition, whores. Never said it was bad, just said they shouldn't hide who they were.




stef -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 8:53:23 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bottomboy81

In the past, I have simply approached women and told them what I have to offer and asked them about them selves. I have simply made polite emails showing my interest. But no matter how most men do their emails...

Ok, two sentences that you somehow think illustrate the lengths you've gone to in order to make women somehow want you, then TWENTY ONE more sentences explaining why it's all a waste of time because women are this and that and blah blah blah.

Are you seeing the problem here?

~stef




MissMagnolia -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 8:58:40 PM)

You see bottomboy, what I see in your profile is a man who is looking for sexual gratification, on a casual basis, or in a friends with benefits relationship. Nothing wrong with that at all, but it isn't what the majority of women are looking for. Sex, kinky or otherwise, is too easy to find for a woman and rarely so easy for a man, so there are few women who would want to contact, or keep in touch with, someone online who wants mere sex. Remember that the women on here get hundreds of offers of sex. One more isn't going to gain their attention. It's just one more in the pile.

Later in your profile, you say that it is about the woman, what she wants, she directs proceedings, it's not about servicing you, it's for her benefit. Also, you say that you want a top who has little concern for your feelings.

You appear to be a bedroom bottom, but definitely not a submissive. So when Mistresses see your profile, they don't think "Ah, a potential sub", they think "Ah, a guy who wants to get his rocks off". You are not offering a D/s relationship or submission. You are quite happy with your life and live it as you want to live it. Again, nothing wrong with that, but you can't be bitter because what you are offering hasn't interested any Mistresses so far.

This is NOT a flame, it is simply an observation and you really need to read what people are saying to you. Of course it hurts to be rejected time after time, or course one becomes frustrated and angry. But if you could stop getting ratty every time someone tries to advise you, or answer you, it isn't going to help you get over the bitterness and move on. And yes, I would say exactly the same thing (and have in many threads) to a woman. Bitterness held to your heart as a shield will do just that, act as a shield and never let anyone close enough to see who you really are.




DiurnalVampire -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 9:04:16 PM)

I was going to weigh in on the topic.  However, It has gotten to the point where there are a few people trying to stir the pot, and thats about it. There are some boys who should learn to keep their mouth shut, or dont bitch when they are having no luck finding someone.

Thank you LadySerephina and LadyPact, I am very proud of my Fox.

For the boy complaning about using subs for money and only for money... feel free to ask Fox (Shawn, incase you hadnt figured that out) when the last time he paid for something was.  Go ahead.  I'll wait.

For the one talking about using a boy and not caring for him... and whatever other nonsense you are spewing...
Generalizations do nothing but make you look bad. Hate to break it to you.  There are people who do not want sex.  Orgasm, yes, but not sex. Angel, my other pet, is a virgin. Does he have orgasms... yes. With or from me,  sometimes. Is he still a virgin by choice...YES! It is also why he was perfectly comfortable, and actually encouraging, when I was looking for and found a second pet. Would a sexless relationship work for Fox too? Probably. It would have had I not introduced sex into it becasue it was what *I* wanted. Not him.

If you want something out of a relationship, then seek out someone who wants what you do. If you dont like how some of us run our relationships... then dont get into relationships like ours! CASE CLOSED! I dont tell you that I find it reprehensible to expect sex from a Domme... or from a relationship at all.

If you ask out a vanilla woman on a date and you pay for the entire thing... its a date.  If you ask a Dominant woman out and pay for everything why is it then financial domination? Heres a hint.  It isnt.  Its no different than what you would have done with a vanilla!  Handing over your paycheck and picking up the dinner tab are vastly different. Learn that difference and you will do better.

So, now, when is someone going to chime in and start on the rant of Mistresses can/cant/do/dont love their pets?  I think thats the only vastly sweeping generalization nonsense missing from here.

DV

**My last entry into this silly thread... so not worth the time I am wasting typing it while Fox is laying in my lap.**





Najakcharmer -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 9:04:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bottomboy81
Thanks for the advice but its completely false. It is validated to be bitter when you have been rejected 99 percent of the time. It's just like not trusting dogs when 99 percent of the time you came across one, it bit you.


It wouldn't surprise me if dogs bit you 99% of the time you approached them, because you would be approaching with an angry, fearful, resentful and bitter attitude.  An experienced, confident dog handler, a dog lover or even an innocent but friendly and playful child, in the order of most likely success, could approach those very same dogs and not be bitten.

Case in point.  Most people believe that snakes are evil, scary and aggressive.  Ain't so; that's strictly a self-fulfilling prophecy.  As long as no one else with a bad attitude and angry/scared body language gets closer than 20 feet or so, I can generally have a wild snake ready to be calmly moved or handled in a matter of minutes.   It's amazing how pleasant they are to handle when you approach with genuinely peaceful, relaxed, confident intent and body language.   And it's even more amazing to see the difference between how they respond to the body language of fear and aggression versus how they respond to peaceful confidence.  This is not magic, but a very basic principle of behavioral psychology.

If you approach saying "I hate you, I fear you, I am angry at you and resentful of you" with every movement you make and every fiber of your being, even in your scent, guess what happens.  Uh huh.  The results are extremely predictable with animals, and perhaps even more so with humans who can see your anger and bitterness from even farther away than the most sensitive animal.  If you work with wildlife, that kind of attitude can get you hurt or killed.  On the dating field, it just leaves you lonely. 

There's users and losers out there, both male and female.  Some women are selfish princesses; some men are rapists and murderers.  If you let their existence dominate your life to the point that all you have left is hatred, then they've won and you've lost.




ShaktiSama -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 9:07:17 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Smith117
Ahh like the stereotypical woman, you only read or hear what you want.


Wow.  Another female stereotype!  Imagine my shock.

Like every other human being present, male or female, I only read what you write and hear what you say.  It isn't a pleasant experience, though, and since you obviously think you're typing something entirely different from what I'm reading, I can only assume that you have the world's only known case of Metacarpal Tourette's Syndrome.

I suggest you see a doctor immediately.  In the meantime, I will block you.

Bye now!  [:)]






Smith117 -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 9:09:04 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

quote:

ORIGINAL: Smith117
Ahh like the stereotypical woman, you only read or hear what you want.


Wow.  Another female stereotype!  Imagine my shock.

Like every other human being present, male or female, I only read what you write and hear what you say.  It isn't a pleasant experience, though, and since you obviously think you're typing something entirely different from what I'm reading, I can only assume that you have the world's only known case of Metacarpal Tourette's Syndrome.

I suggest you see a doctor immediately.  In the meantime, I will block you.

Bye now!  [:)]





Ugh....I'm blocked. I'm so crushed. Blocking is simply a retreat from an argument you can't win. Good riddance.




ModeratorEleven -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 9:14:13 PM)

Ok folks, that's about enough for the personal comments.  Feel free to continue the discussion without the sniping

Thank you.

XI





kc692 -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 9:15:39 PM)

I have to say, from stef to the end, I think the best advice(given succintly and without flames or emotion) "speak the truth" the best.(There were other wonderful answers, but hopefully may make a rock solid statement with 4 in a row and no flames).  I could not have said it better myself.  I also think there is NOTHING wrong with what you seek, just do not be bitter and understand in advance that this is not what the majority of the female demographic you have to search from on this site is looking for.
edited to add:  damn, and two flames slipped in while I was typing.......




Najakcharmer -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 9:49:02 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bottomboy81
In the past, I have simply approached women and told them what I have to offer and asked them about them selves. I have simply made polite emails showing my interest. But no matter how most men do their emails, there is a very high chance that it will just ignored or a sorry email saying no thanks.


Thing is, what you're offering on your profile is "random stranger with a penis and an interest in kinky sex".  There's nothing about you as a human being, nothing about wanting to relate to another person or getting to know them, or spending enjoyable quality time with them outside of the kinky sex, no vanilla interests or personality.  There is literally nothing but a random, strange, horny penis being offered, as far as I can tell on the profile.  You don't list a single interest that is not about sex. 

There are a few women who are out there looking for kinky sex from random horny strangers, but most women are more interested in getting to know someone and making a personal connection before jumping right into a sexual relationship.  Dommes and tops are no different from vanilla women and submissive women in this respect.  You're not reaching for a personal connection and apparently not even interested in getting to know another human being outside the bedroom, as far as I can tell.  Add an angry, bitter, misogynistic all-women-are-evil-bitches attitude on top of that, and your chances of attracting an intimate partner are pretty much done.


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What else do the women here expect men to do? Start doing back flips and pulling a circus act to get you interested?


Be fun, relaxed, confident, basically happy and caring, able to laugh at himself and others, lively and intelligent, with interests beyond kink.  And most of all be personally interested in me.  Not just in his dick, or in random kinky sex, or in getting his rocks off, but really interested in me as a human being, enough to enjoy spending fun time together that doesn't involve his immediate fetish gratification.  Willing to take time to get to know me as a person and a friend first.  And no, he doesn't have to pay for everything in the process, just be willing to take some time to focus on getting to know me instead of ignoring me as a person and only paying attention to his own sexual needs. It's not terribly flattering when a man wants to bottom so badly he'll bottom to anybody, you're just a convenient outlet and it's not like you've actually earned his respect or have his real interest.  He might not even like you or really think much of you, he just wants his needs satisfied and you don't matter much.  I like kinky sex very much, but I only want to have it with men who are sincerely interested in me - not with men who are only focused on their own dicks and who don't care about me at all, and whose company I can't enjoy both in and out of bed. 

I don't think that's too unusual a viewpoint or too outrageous a demand, and when a man comes along who is clearly focused on his own sex needs to the point that he doesn't even care who he fulfills them with, then no, I'm not interested.  When that man is also angrily blaming others for the fact that he is not attractive to women, that's a huge red flag, and the interest meter goes from "not interested" to "run away screaming".

Life ain't fair.  Regardless of how justified you feel about being bitter, that attitude simply isn't going to work to get you what you want.  If I walked into an interaction with a wild animal with a fearful or angry attitude, regardless of how justified that attitude might be because I had been injured in the past, I would immediately get hurt again.  It's not fair but it is true.  Either I would have to learn how to effectively let go of my anger and resentment and approach the next animal with a positive and relaxed attitude, or I would no longer be able to work safely with those animals.  That's how it works on the zoological playing field, and the rules don't change with Homo sapiens.

You can  hold on tight to your anger and bitterness because feeling justified is more important to you than being happy, or you can consciously choose to work on letting go of that anger, move on with your life in a positive way, stop giving bad people in the past any power over your feelings and actions, and focus on learning the skills and making the positive self-changes that will get you the relationship you want.   No, it's not going to be easy and you can't do it just by deciding to.  It's a hell of a lot of work and a hard road to walk.  I know some animal trainers who got back into the field after being hurt badly.  Some of them made it successfully and were able to let go of their fear and anger.  Some of them didn't.  All of them say it may have been the hardest thing they ever had to do in their lives.  But if it's really what you want, and if you're ready to get up and start going there, then maybe the work will be worthwhile.




IdiotMale -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 9:53:07 PM)

Wow..that was a pretty impressive reply I must say.




txnights05 -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (11/30/2007 11:41:47 PM)

i tend to break things down to their simplist forms.... at least as i see them. seems to me that people are different... if a Mistress chooses not to have sex and you want to... find another one! what is the problem? this is certainly something that should be discussed before any relationship starts. don't start one in which you aren't getting what you need. i don't want to sound insensitive but.. duh!




brightspot -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (12/1/2007 12:51:48 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Koala

Can't we all just get along?


Can't we all just get a Bong? [:)]
 
Missy.




brightspot -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (12/1/2007 1:32:34 AM)

Seriously though, as I read smith and bottomboy's
words, I think of men who really do only want sex
from women and deep down inside to hurt them, they really hate women and could very well have a high propensity for raping, mutilating and/or murdering women.
 
I hope you get some form of counseling before any
of that happens.
 
Missy. 




Smith117 -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (12/1/2007 2:41:57 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: brightspot

Seriously though, as I read smith and bottomboy's
words, I think of men who really do only want sex
from women and deep down inside to hurt them, they really hate women and could very well have a high propensity for raping, mutilating and/or murdering women.
 
I hope you get some form of counseling before any
of that happens.
 
Missy. 


Well thank you, Dr. Phil.

Unfortunately you're quite wrong. But thanks for playing anyway. I'd rathet slam my weanie in a sliding glass door than do anything nonconsentually to a woman. That doesn't mean, however, that I can't be absolutely disgusted by typical women behavior as it stands today.

Think about it. Y'all aren't exactly being placed in the greatest light by the younger women today. There used to be consideration on the part of women. But that seems largely to be a thing of the past. Most I've met are either purely out to hurt men, or they simply don't realize that they way they do things now, was not the way things were done in the past.

Lately, I've come to believe I simply wasn't cut out for a relationship. And seeing the way women are today, I'm quite fine with that. I'd much rather be alone, than to have to worry about trusting a woman again.

Think of it, women have way more ability to 'hurt' men today, and they seem to revel in it.

Sure, men can 'rape' women. That's always been a danger women faced throughout history. But now, men have to worry about things like being taken advantage of financially...they have to worry about having a lovely, happy evening, then being woken up by detectives the next morning because the girl had a 'regret' and 'claimed' rape, they have to worry about a woman claiming that the man is a daddy, despite them never having sex.....and don't think the state will help the man in anyway. In many cases, all a woman has to do is point a finger and say "he's the daddy" and that man is suddenly on the hook for hundreds of thousands of dollars of 'support.'

It's been said earlier in this forum that men are wrong to 'expect sex' from a relationship. What kind of thinking is that? I'm sure we've all heard the hundreds of comedians joking about that very assumption. I'm sure roughly 75-90 percent of men only get into relationships FOR the sex. Like the old joke floating around in e-mail, men exist for 3 simple things in life, if he doesn't have an erection or look tired, make him a sandwhich. Of course those aren't real numbers, and I didn't 'look it up' but think about it, even Ron white says "I'm a pretty loyal dog, but if you expect me to stay on the porch, you're going to have to pet me once in awhile."

And I know there are many men who say they like the whole 'cuckholding' thing or whatever, but people let's be painfully honest, most men will seek sex elsewhere if they do not get it from home. It's in their basic nature. And for you women who say that you have sex with your spouse but you play with other men that you don't have sex with (or some other similar arrangement), I'm not talking to you right now. I'm not because I'm sure your arrangement is such that he whom you do not sleep with is free to sleep with others. In fact, I've seen a few 'open' relationships where the husband and wife slept with each other but not with their part-time subs. They understood, however, that those subs WOULD be sleeping with others. To think otherwise would be naive.

If I need therapy in anyway, it's not because of a desire to hurt women. It's because in every nearly one of the 'relationships' I've had, the girl decided for whatever reason to fuck me over horribly, be it financially or by throwing around the "L" word when they meant nothing of the kind. I think I may actually be developing a fear of trusting women again. If there's something I need to 'talk' about, that'd be it. I've never met a girl who was straight with me. And just for the record, the 'relationships' I'm talking about were all real life honest to goodness girls. Right there in person and not behind a computer screen. Well, all but one anyway.




Politesub53 -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (12/1/2007 4:40:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: laurell3

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: laurell3

For you, politesub, I might do that, because you my friend are a delight.

(edited to add: you should remember you actually asked me to cook breakfast for you when you try to eat it though....hahaha)


Laurell, if you fulfilled my first request eating raw eggs would be a small price to pay.. [;)]

raw eggs it is then!  (honestly they're probably better than me cooking them)


Cooking them is easy, start to boil the eggs, then have sex and voila...

All done in 3 minutes [8D]




laurell3 -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (12/1/2007 5:05:40 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53

quote:

ORIGINAL: laurell3

quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53

quote:

ORIGINAL: laurell3

For you, politesub, I might do that, because you my friend are a delight.

(edited to add: you should remember you actually asked me to cook breakfast for you when you try to eat it though....hahaha)


Laurell, if you fulfilled my first request eating raw eggs would be a small price to pay.. [;)]

raw eggs it is then!  (honestly they're probably better than me cooking them)


Cooking them is easy, start to boil the eggs, then have sex and voila...

All done in 3 minutes [8D]


Hon, I think you've been having sex with the wrong people......




laurell3 -> RE: mistress why cant your male slave have sex (12/1/2007 5:14:48 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Smith117

quote:

ORIGINAL: brightspot

Seriously though, as I read smith and bottomboy's
words, I think of men who really do only want sex
from women and deep down inside to hurt them, they really hate women and could very well have a high propensity for raping, mutilating and/or murdering women.
 
I hope you get some form of counseling before any
of that happens.
 
Missy. 


Well thank you, Dr. Phil.

Unfortunately you're quite wrong. But thanks for playing anyway. I'd rathet slam my weanie in a sliding glass door than do anything nonconsentually to a woman. That doesn't mean, however, that I can't be absolutely disgusted by typical women behavior as it stands today.

Think about it. Y'all aren't exactly being placed in the greatest light by the younger women today. There used to be consideration on the part of women. But that seems largely to be a thing of the past. Most I've met are either purely out to hurt men, or they simply don't realize that they way they do things now, was not the way things were done in the past.

Lately, I've come to believe I simply wasn't cut out for a relationship. And seeing the way women are today, I'm quite fine with that. I'd much rather be alone, than to have to worry about trusting a woman again.

Think of it, women have way more ability to 'hurt' men today, and they seem to revel in it.

Sure, men can 'rape' women. That's always been a danger women faced throughout history. But now, men have to worry about things like being taken advantage of financially...they have to worry about having a lovely, happy evening, then being woken up by detectives the next morning because the girl had a 'regret' and 'claimed' rape, they have to worry about a woman claiming that the man is a daddy, despite them never having sex.....and don't think the state will help the man in anyway. In many cases, all a woman has to do is point a finger and say "he's the daddy" and that man is suddenly on the hook for hundreds of thousands of dollars of 'support.'

It's been said earlier in this forum that men are wrong to 'expect sex' from a relationship. What kind of thinking is that? I'm sure we've all heard the hundreds of comedians joking about that very assumption. I'm sure roughly 75-90 percent of men only get into relationships FOR the sex. Like the old joke floating around in e-mail, men exist for 3 simple things in life, if he doesn't have an erection or look tired, make him a sandwhich. Of course those aren't real numbers, and I didn't 'look it up' but think about it, even Ron white says "I'm a pretty loyal dog, but if you expect me to stay on the porch, you're going to have to pet me once in awhile."

And I know there are many men who say they like the whole 'cuckholding' thing or whatever, but people let's be painfully honest, most men will seek sex elsewhere if they do not get it from home. It's in their basic nature. And for you women who say that you have sex with your spouse but you play with other men that you don't have sex with (or some other similar arrangement), I'm not talking to you right now. I'm not because I'm sure your arrangement is such that he whom you do not sleep with is free to sleep with others. In fact, I've seen a few 'open' relationships where the husband and wife slept with each other but not with their part-time subs. They understood, however, that those subs WOULD be sleeping with others. To think otherwise would be naive.

If I need therapy in anyway, it's not because of a desire to hurt women. It's because in every nearly one of the 'relationships' I've had, the girl decided for whatever reason to fuck me over horribly, be it financially or by throwing around the "L" word when they meant nothing of the kind. I think I may actually be developing a fear of trusting women again. If there's something I need to 'talk' about, that'd be it. I've never met a girl who was straight with me. And just for the record, the 'relationships' I'm talking about were all real life honest to goodness girls. Right there in person and not behind a computer screen. Well, all but one anyway.



It's unfortunate that you've had such a hard time.  However, maybe you need to take a look at why you are repeating the same pattern rather than assuming all women are like that.  You're right people can hurt people in relationships.  BOTH male and female.  Not everyone has the emotional maturity to have a successful relationship.  Those types one should try to avoid.

I have yet to see any person "on the hook for hundreds of thousands of dollars merely because of an accusation of paternity.  In fact, paternity tests now run around $90 here.  It's very simple to ascertain the truth of the statement without much doubt.

While it's always possible a woman could be raped or a man could be the victim of a false claim of rape, if one lives their life expecting such things, you are correct, relationships would be a miserable and unsuccessful place to be.

I'm sorry you have been hurt.  Most of us have at some point.  It can make trust more difficult in the future.  However, I'm guessing none of the women here are the ones that hurt you and to assume they are all the same is a bit silly, wouldn't you agree?




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