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iwillserveu -> Political affiliation or designation (2/16/2004 5:58:11 AM)
I have heard people in BDSM refer to themselves as socialist. My response has been what are you nuts? Everything we do can be found by some far authority as morally wrong. Take spanking for example. It is consensual, but by consenting to receive pain the sub has proven their mental incapacity and can not give valid consent. If you are in BDSM then you believe we decide what is best for us. You might not carry it to fighting mandatory seat belt regulation, but you definitely respect acts between consenting adults. In BDSM we are libertarian if not Libertarian. (The capital "L" is a political party; the small "l" is a political philosophy.) Of course as a libertarian I respect everyone elses right to be wrong.[:D]

Estring -> RE: Political affiliation or designation (2/16/2004 12:07:08 PM)
Interesting opinion iwill. I am not so sure that there is a prevailing political affiliation in people of bdsm. I am a Republican. But I don't think that has anything to do with my love of bdsm. I loved bdsm even in the past when I was an unenlightened Democrat. Lol.

MistressDREAD -> RE: Political affiliation or designation (2/20/2004 3:39:12 PM)
"All Men desire a Woman true to Her devotion, strong in Her beliefs and grounded in Her Honor, but few are worthy of Her.-" Its time to speak out!! First they came for the Socialists and I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for the libretarian and I did not speak out Because I was not a libretarian Then they came for the Jews and I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew Then they came for BDSMers, and me and I cried out for help But there was no one left To fight for, or speak out for me Pastor Martin Niemöller Its not funny its not about just Dominants,Freaks,Queers or Sex positions, Its about RIGHTS....All Our Rights! It is still against the law in all 50 States of the USA to practice S/M of BDSM. Are You aware that You break the law if You practice Your Chosen Lifestyle as a S.S.C.F. ADULT? Think about this..........Now that You have thought about this, what action will YOU take to change this?

MizSuz -> RE: Political affiliation or designation (2/21/2004 7:42:27 AM)
Sorry Dread, I have to disagree. It is not still against the law to practice BDSM in all 50 states. There are a number of states in which consent is an allowable defense. It's not enough, to only be allowable in a few states, but it does refute the notion that it's illegal everywhere.

iwillserveu -> RE: Political affiliation or designation (2/26/2004 5:24:08 AM)
MizSuz, Not to disagree with you for disagreement sake, but well I'm going to point out an extreme off topic example to do just that. [:D] (Sheepishly: Sorry to put words in your mouth.)(I've read your posts and i actually like you as a human being.) There is in Germany a trial of a man who ate another man with his consent. It is on videotape. The eatee consents then they eat his penis. Is his consent valid? How about a person who consents to branding? How about a person who consents to a tatoo? How about a person who consents to being spsnked? Where do you draw the line and more importantly, who holds the pencil? (Raising his hand and shaking it: "Ooh, Pick my to hold the pencil.")[:D] My answer? You (general "You") can't consent to being killed. You can consent to everything else. The important part of that is it is "My answer". I think it is right. By imposing on someone i'd be topping from the bottom.[:D] An on topic example happened in my backyard. A person was arrested for consesually hitting a sub with a wooden spoon at a private perty in Attleboro, MA. I have no details on why the cops were ther in the firstplace, but that is battery consent be damned. I'm sure the DA dropped it, but it must've been a fun ride to the police station none the less.[:)] Oh, I can't spell check right now. Sorry about the typoes.[:)]

MistressDREAD -> RE: Political affiliation or designation (2/29/2004 8:57:44 PM)
wellllllllll Miz Suz beingg one whom has gone to states that state that consent is an allowable defense and gave scenes at local Munchie groups that were busted for doing such amone adults concensually on 11 occations and looking up each states laws of BDSM practices befor doing so. Id have to say that Your words hold little water in My defense............wanna come sit in My places in the jail houses or court rooms and tell the Judges YOUR FACTS for Me ~smiles~ In any state of the USA there are anyone of a gazzillion BDSM related issues that one can be put in jail for as practicing sumthing illegal and against the law ANDDDD not only will they put the scener in jail but the scenee as well stateing that no one has the right to give their permission to let their selfs be abused or to be an abuser and do not kid your self as this is how they look at BDSM as being and in essance will say that We both the Sadist and masocist are in fact in sane for all intents and purpose if they so choose. ~smiles~ these are not just My words but My reality in My Choice to practice My Lifestyle and pay its conciquences to do so . Why do You think befor the W W W people kept their kinks in the closets and still hide for the most part who they are in real life today? Because They know BigBrother was a watchin!

MistressDREAD -> RE: Political affiliation or designation (3/1/2004 5:09:05 AM)
Even in Federal Court a Bill was included that defined the problems of City and State Laws and those whom upkeep them to be used and abused to the extent that a Bill stateing the Goverment knowing of these facts but having little control over them when they happen unless brought to Their attention. Such is a Bill that covers the obvious of what goes on at a State and City leval. quote: Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, 1st Session S. 966 Section1. Bill13 (13) The problem of crimes motivated by bias is sufficiently serious, widespread, and interstate in nature as to warrant Federal assistance at States and local jurisdictions. This was inacted so that All were aware that Hate and Biased is a known reality in society today and still must be overseen by the Federal Goverment towards the State and City Goverments and this is where each person in charge of upholding laws in a City, County or State, brings into play their personal or group beliefs of the area in question, that being Alternate Lifestyles and their practices and how they are practiced and what the society in the area they are being practiced feel about such issues. The Federal Goverment sees any violent act regardless if concensual or not as a crime and they can at any leval of the law charge you with such and there are case after case of just such a thing being done to those on both sides of the concensuality factor in Our time. quote: `(2) OFFENSES INVOLVING ACTUAL OR PERCEIVED RELIGION, NATIONAL ORIGIN, GENDER, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, OR DISABILITY- `(A) IN GENERAL- Whoever, whether or not acting under color of law, in any circumstance described in subparagraph (B), willfully causes bodily injury to any person or, through the use of fire, a firearm, or an explosive or incendiary device, attempts to cause bodily injury to any person, because of the actual or perceived religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, or disability of any person-- the problems We face are with the wording of some enacted laws which stated the perceived or assumed negitive responce of the public at hand to the act which We are engrossed with at the time of arrest. ooooh I could go on for ever and ever with such arrests in detail across the states and such but will leave it at this..... Any thing you say and do can and will be used against You in a Court of Law! ~giggles~

MistressDREAD -> RE: Political affiliation or designation (3/1/2004 5:13:32 AM)
HAHAHHA heyyy iwillserveu can You guess what Political affiliation or designation I * hang* around?? ~smiles~REALL BIG and purdy![:D]

iwillserveu -> RE: Political affiliation or designation (3/11/2004 2:29:23 AM)
Dread,You may not have use the word, but you are a libertarian (or Libertarian). Try this link. World's smallest political quiz

belongtoyou -> RE: Political affiliation or designation (3/11/2004 2:50:06 AM)
iwillserveu, Thanks for that political link! It confirmed what i already knew; i'm a liberal! cheers, ~rain~

MistressDREAD -> RE: Political affiliation or designation (3/11/2004 11:00:26 AM)
hahahahah You are ohhhhh so wrong about Me iwillserveu and that is a good quiz as it did state what I believe and adheared to. My same authoritive non conformist view LOL! but as usuall most people * assume Me to be sumthing not truly taking the time to find out the ~Facts~

iwillserveu -> RE: Political affiliation or designation (3/12/2004 1:40:12 AM)
quote: authoritive non conformist Dread, You're authoritarian? I thought you had figured out the "authorities" would put your perverted ass in jail? (Mine too, that is not an insult.) Perhaps because you are a Domme you mistakenly think you are the authority. You are not. (Unless you are a Supreme Court Justice, Judge Dread[:)])

MistressDREAD -> RE: Political affiliation or designation (3/12/2004 9:40:50 AM)
looks at iwillserveu and just shakes My head rolls My eyes and thinks to My self gawDDDDDD subbies! I did not say I was Authoritarian but that I had an authoritive nonconformist view that the quiz brought out correcty. LOL .Jus laughs as iwillserveu jumps to assumption and thinks.......yep them subbies do it everYTIME! One thing that I am ALWAYS iwillserveu and you can take My words on this, I am the Authority in My life and those whom choose to tempt Authoritate over My Authority have much to handle no matter the case big or small. hahaha I kinda like the sound of that Judge Dread hmmmmm nawwww then I would have to conform to Laws I do not agree with sooooo Ill not take that chair and let sumone else sit in it. And after all any whom wish to Authoritate over Me must first dare enter into My Authoritive Area and not many I know want to do that ..................giggles!!! (evil, wicked, mean n nastie)

iwillserveu -> RE: Political affiliation or designation (3/12/2004 2:01:55 PM)
Sorry Dread, You are not the final authority over yourself. You (a general "you") should be, but let's get in the real world for a second. Tell the judge on the speeding ticket you contested you are The Authority in your life.[:)] And no, the police would not want to enter your Authoritative Area, but will if they are forced to put down the donuts.[:)] (Cheap shot at the police, but I can't hassle them.[:)].) quote: Jus laughs as iwillserveu jumps to assumption and thinks.......yep them subbies do it everYTIME! Yup. I think. A mindless robot who'll wax the floor might be your ideal. It is not me.[:)] I never want it to be me. (Note: I never want to correct spelling or grammar in a quote.)

matthewslave -> RE: Political affiliation or designation (4/9/2004 5:05:17 PM)
That was unique... i am now officially a half-breed right-conservative/libertarian. Actually, i'm registered as an independent, because i choose to vote by issue and candidate record, rather than by party personality or by a few single "hot issues". i still think it graded me a conservative based on my military service/yes answer... sigh

MistressKiss -> RE: Political affiliation or designation (4/10/2004 8:13:41 PM)
Just a thought along these lines. I am wondering why people blame the president for all of the evils and wrongs in a country? Having worked in several corporations, especially those governed by a board of trustees, I have come to realize that even if the buck stops with you, it doesn't stop with you. I have seen the president of my company hindered often by one or two board members with their own agendas. Don't most of you feel that this happens to our presidents as well? I take issue with blaming one person, even the person in charge, for all the wrongs that befall us. Political can of worms, or am I safe? [image]local://upfiles/10574/D416A6BC328B4FD1A00D83BE328DD113.gif[/image]

Estring -> RE: Political affiliation or designation (4/10/2004 11:05:46 PM)
Kiss, don't you understand? President Bush is responsible for every single bad thing that has ever happened in history. He is worse than Hitler, Saddam, Stalin, Osama and smoking combined. Lol. Or so some would say. But not me.

MistressKiss -> RE: Political affiliation or designation (4/13/2004 9:23:17 PM)
pouts....poor Dubya...I still love him and his pointed head. [image]local://upfiles/10574/300948D5618D46459F91296E77CB77B2.gif[/image]

MizSuz -> RE: Political affiliation or designation (4/14/2004 6:43:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistressKiss Don't most of you feel that this happens to our presidents as well? I take issue with blaming one person, even the person in charge, for all the wrongs that befall us. I completely agree! It was Bush, Cheney, Powell, Rice and (omfg) Ashcroft. The Bush Cartel. Certainly, he is not alone.

MistressKiss -> RE: Political affiliation or designation (4/14/2004 9:10:18 PM)
MizSuz, I still love Ya even if Ya don't love Dubya. [image]local://upfiles/10574/65AC7CDCFE1649C5B3C9DB66029D1D1B.gif[/image]

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