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an internal CIA memorandum has been obtained by Venezuelan counterintelligence from the US Embassy in Caracas that reveals a very sinister - almost fantastical, were it not true - plan to destabilize Venezuela during the coming days. The plan, titled "OPERATION PLIERS" was authored by CIA Officer Michael Middleton Steere and was addressed to CIA Director General Michael Hayden in Washington.

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

The election for the constitutional referendum is expected to be extremely close. So Chavez now how to make up some sort of CIA story in order to claim he needs those new powers in order to fight off the evil American imperialists.

Anyone that doesnt see what that man is doing is completely blind to history....

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

Anyone that doesnt see what that man is doing is completely blind to history....

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

It's amazing how fast people are to blame the USA without hearing any evidence whatsoever. You are basically taking the word and side of a dictator.

If you go back to WW2, Hitler made many speeches accusing the United States of tampering with Germany's interests. He made it a big propaganda point. His intention was to get the people to believe that they needed him in order to protect them from the Americans. All dictatorships have used the same line. The Soviet leaders used that claim for decades to justify their dictatorships.

Chavez is saying the same things. He was legally elected and now consolidating power. That's how the Nazis came to power. He's got control over the media. He has control over the legislature and the courts. Civil liberties are being suppressed. Journalists are being thrown in jail. Oh....but that's all OK...we will overlook that because he's so wonderful to the poor and he hates Bush.... Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds?

This man is a dictator! And Im just in complete awe that so many people even here in the USA sympathize with that tyrant and fall for his propaganda hook, line, and sinker.

And frankly I can only hope the CIA is tampering to bring his dictatorship down. Maybe we havn't lost all our balls.

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

Isn't it a felony and treason to reveal the name of a CIA officer?[sm=biggrin.gif]

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

You're so right, cyberdude. Chalk another one up to the insanity of Bush hatred...

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ORIGINAL: thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

You're so right, cyberdude. Chalk another one up to the insanity of Bush hatred...

Sanity:
Are you suggesting that this would be the first time that the U.S. had tampered with a sovereign nations internal affairs?
thompson

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

It's amazing how fast people are to blame the USA without hearing any evidence whatsoever. You are basically taking the word and side of a dictator.
Since the U.S. has a long and well documented history of meddling in the internal affairs of sovereign nations it would seem that rather than taking the "side" of the legally elected and reelected president of Venezuela it is more the case of recognizing a consistent pattern of behavior.

If you go back to WW2, Hitler made many speeches accusing the United States of tampering with Germany's interests.
Perhaps you might give us some citations for these speeches and let us read them for ourselves.

He made it a big propaganda point. His intention was to get the people to believe that they needed him in order to protect them from the Americans. All dictatorships have used the same line. The Soviet leaders used that claim for decades to justify their dictatorships.
Was the Soviet claim unfounded?

Chavez is saying the same things. He was legally elected and now consolidating power. That's how the Nazis came to power.
He's got control over the media. He has control over the legislature and the courts. Civil liberties are being suppressed.
Sounds a lot like bush&co and the patriot act.

Journalists are being thrown in jail. Oh....but that's all OK...we will overlook that because he's so wonderful to the poor and he hates Bush.... Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds?
Would it be less stupid to fuck the poor and love bush&co?

This man is a dictator! And Im just in complete awe that so many people even here in the USA sympathize with that tyrant and fall for his propaganda hook, line, and sinker.
Do you feel the same way about the dictators in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia?

And frankly I can only hope the CIA is tampering to bring his dictatorship down. Maybe we havn't lost all our balls.
Do you feel that the U.S. should rule the world?

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You're so right, cyberdude.

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

It's amazing how fast people are to blame the USA without hearing any evidence whatsoever. You are basically taking the word and side of a dictator.

If you go back to WW2, Hitler made many speeches accusing the United States of tampering with Germany's interests. He made it a big propaganda point. His intention was to get the people to believe that they needed him in order to protect them from the Americans. All dictatorships have used the same line. The Soviet leaders used that claim for decades to justify their dictatorships.

Chavez is saying the same things. He was legally elected and now consolidating power. That's how the Nazis came to power. He's got control over the media. He has control over the legislature and the courts. Civil liberties are being suppressed. Journalists are being thrown in jail. Oh....but that's all OK...we will overlook that because he's so wonderful to the poor and he hates Bush.... Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds?

This man is a dictator! And Im just in complete awe that so many people even here in the USA sympathize with that tyrant and fall for his propaganda hook, line, and sinker.

And frankly I can only hope the CIA is tampering to bring his dictatorship down. Maybe we havn't lost all our balls.