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Seminars to Aid Illegals to Avoid Arrest - 11/29/2007 1:34:59 PM   
pinksugarsub


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Status: offline 		Contreras-Edin says 200,000 immigrants were deported from the interior of the country last year.
 
The INS says these seminars, in which Contreras-Edin teaches both legal and illegal immigrants they have rights against search and seizure, self-incrimination and other things, are aiding illegals to continue breaking the law.
 
What do Y/you think?  Should illegals be taught what rights they enjoy to help aid them to avoid the INS?
 
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=16727309&ft=1&f=1
 
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RE: Seminars to Aid Illegals to Avoid Arrest - 11/29/2007 1:42:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sounds like a great idea for a sting...Invite all the illegals to one place, then nab'em all, rather than having to hunt them down one-by-one!
Since it is a seminar FOR ILLEGALS, doesn't that run afoul of a few Federal laws, mostly the ones about sedition and treason?
I have to say, this is just mind-blowing, a class FOR criminals, rather than just ABOUT them!

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RE: Seminars to Aid Illegals to Avoid Arrest - 11/29/2007 1:51:25 PM   
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RE: Seminars to Aid Illegals to Avoid Arrest - 11/29/2007 2:04:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, how about a class for bank robbers?
Epgah, that would come under "harboring" I think.
Illegal aliens really don't have any "rights" in this country.
Any "rights" they have would fall under our *criminal laws* like the right to an attorney etc.

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RE: Seminars to Aid Illegals to Avoid Arrest - 11/29/2007 2:08:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: EPGAH

Sounds like a great idea for a sting...Invite all the illegals to one place, then nab'em all, rather than having to hunt them down one-by-one!
Since it is a seminar FOR ILLEGALS, doesn't that run afoul of a few Federal laws, mostly the ones about sedition and treason?
I have to say, this is just mind-blowing, a class FOR criminals, rather than just ABOUT them!


look, why waste the time?  Just stand outside the fuckin seminar and card them like a highschool dance.........you ain't Kojak

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RE: Seminars to Aid Illegals to Avoid Arrest - 11/29/2007 2:25:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		i did sorta wonder how they organize and advertise these seminars....and why INS doesn't just raid them?
 
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RE: Seminars to Aid Illegals to Avoid Arrest - 11/29/2007 2:29:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's got me wonderin', that's for sure, I can't see why they wouldn't try it and see what the SC says if there is a bitch.

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RE: Seminars to Aid Illegals to Avoid Arrest - 11/29/2007 2:30:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have a suggestion: since you are so interested, why don't you investigate yourself and raid these 'seminars' (though something tells me the story hugely inflated the importance of such gatherings) with a couple of friends, some banners and a demonstration licence?

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RE: Seminars to Aid Illegals to Avoid Arrest - 11/29/2007 3:26:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Since the government cannot legally ask a citizen to produce ID, except under specific circumstances, it is difficult to ask for a Green Card in a public situation such as a seminar. You can hold employers responsible, but neither party is going to do that.

They do not conduct stings, for the same reasons they do not build a fence, that money has already been appropriated for.

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RE: Seminars to Aid Illegals to Avoid Arrest - 11/29/2007 3:33:37 PM   
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Since the government cannot legally ask a citizen to produce ID, except under specific circumstances, it is difficult to ask for a Green Card in a public situation such as a seminar.

Orion


And that's a very good thing too.

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RE: Seminars to Aid Illegals to Avoid Arrest - 11/29/2007 3:42:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yup, that would be called "Harboring" under the U.S. CODE, Title 12. and it's a federal felony offense!
So, that means this guy can be arrested at anytime once he committs that crime.

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RE: Seminars to Aid Illegals to Avoid Arrest - 11/29/2007 4:00:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

Since the government cannot legally ask a citizen to produce ID, except under specific circumstances, it is difficult to ask for a Green Card in a public situation such as a seminar.

Orion


And that's a very good thing too.


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