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RE: Heavy impact (SM) implement recommendations? - 12/1/2007 10:48:25 PM   
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You also might want to look into picking up one of these bad boys.
http://www.tirepaddle.com/2005/10/burning_rubber_.html

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RE: Heavy impact (SM) implement recommendations? - 12/1/2007 11:05:46 PM   
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Floggers are my favorite.  What you described sounds a lot like an "evil stick"... regardless of what it is, each thing can deliver specific types of pain and sensations.   Try heavy to light floggers...  are you going for stinging pain or for thud pounding pain?    After a bit, it does not matter what are are using, once a sub has hit "sub space" per se, they are kind of tuned out of feeling it anymore.  You know when they have the Deer in the Head light looks in the eyes. 

You might have to resort to playing with other things for a different type of pain sensation.   The bitch is that as her pain threaholds go up, the harder it becomes to cross it...  Hate to break that news to you, but that does happen for some people.  The human body is an amazing thing, that differs from person to person.

Maso streaks often are bit like the weather patterns, you might need to catch her in a non maso mood for her to actually feel pain, though she might not be in the mood to enjoy it.   Often when a person is in full Maso mood/mode... you can do double what you normally do and they still can take more.


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RE: Heavy impact (SM) implement recommendations? - 12/1/2007 11:17:14 PM   
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But that sjambok....as a pain wimp, I'm nervous as hell about that! 


In that case yes, you are going to HATE it. I'm so sorry.


Oh gawd.  If I live through it I will let you know.

Those burning rubber things look deadly.  Thank god they're sold out!!!

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RE: Heavy impact (SM) implement recommendations? - 12/1/2007 11:20:12 PM   
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But that sjambok....as a pain wimp, I'm nervous as hell about that! 


In that case yes, you are going to HATE it. I'm so sorry.


Oh gawd.  If I live through it I will let you know.

Those burning rubber things look deadly.  Thank god they're sold out!!!


You mean those tire tread paddles?

OMG I am lusting for something like that on my backside

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RE: Heavy impact (SM) implement recommendations? - 12/1/2007 11:22:13 PM   
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You crazy chick!!  Yes, I checked the website and several are out of stock; the rest are discontinued.

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RE: Heavy impact (SM) implement recommendations? - 12/1/2007 11:22:22 PM   
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Those burning rubber things look deadly.  Thank god they're sold out!!!



Actually, I think he might have a few left. If not I have a friend who can make them if he really wants one. Just trying to help. (Oh, and they really do leave tread marks)

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RE: Heavy impact (SM) implement recommendations? - 12/1/2007 11:24:04 PM   
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Those burning rubber things look deadly.  Thank god they're sold out!!!



Actually, I think he might have a few left. If not I have a friend who can make them if he really wants one. Just trying to help. (Oh, and they really do leave tread marks)


Drooling

I wanted one of these months ago, and Sinergy was supposed to get one, perhaps we will have to make our own

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RE: Heavy impact (SM) implement recommendations? - 12/1/2007 11:24:46 PM   
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Those burning rubber things look deadly.  Thank god they're sold out!!!



Actually, I think he might have a few left. If not I have a friend who can make them if he really wants one. Just trying to help. (Oh, and they really do leave tread marks)


OK, send the rest of 'em to Julia, please! 

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RE: Heavy impact (SM) implement recommendations? - 12/1/2007 11:26:51 PM   
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Im such a pain slut

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RE: Heavy impact (SM) implement recommendations? - 12/1/2007 11:55:20 PM   
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lexan paddles maybe?
http://hansonpaddle.com/Paddles.htm

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RE: Heavy impact (SM) implement recommendations? - 12/2/2007 5:38:53 AM   
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Cricket bat.
 
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RE: Heavy impact (SM) implement recommendations? - 12/2/2007 5:58:46 AM   
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Chain and rubber are the heaviest I think and Im no stranger to pain I love it. The rubber needs to be thick and not flexible for real ouchy stuff.

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RE: Heavy impact (SM) implement recommendations? - 12/2/2007 6:15:10 AM   
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Indeed! Have you tried evil sticks on the hands? I can't decide whether I like hands or feet better. They're fantastic on more, er, intimate parts, too, but you almost certainly know that.

Hitting with the bristles? No, but I've used them for abrasion. Interesting.



Oh yeah, felt them on many areas hands included lol.

Yup, hit with the bristle side. A certain friend who tops me uses it like that....he also uses it abrasively as most do, but enjoys delivering a few hits with it too. Gotta love sadists <grin>.

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RE: Heavy impact (SM) implement recommendations? - 12/2/2007 7:06:08 AM   
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what's wrong with using the good, old-fashioned, belt?!

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RE: Heavy impact (SM) implement recommendations? - 12/2/2007 7:57:29 AM   
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Dear PairofDimes, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
In the use of pain play, pain management and pain reassignment, there can be a change of technique which can add to the effectiveness of strokes.  An illustrated version of what I have presented and or in written handouts when I do instructions on caning--to understand how techniques play a vital role in S&M you're welcome to read it on www.CANE-IAC.com
 
At www.toybag.com there is a paddle called 'Safe word extractor.'  These are for those pain pits that are deep.
 
Single tails are painful and cause welts when the leather part (belly) and the braided and knotted cracker/popper meets the skin.  I find a Tex-Mex quirt, modified with rawhide boot laces a much more painful application than single tails.  It also permits a close in approach and those who have skills issues with single tails--this works much better and safer.
 
A thin water base to the skin, applied before an application of tools and or hand works very well, as it amplifies the impact without having to amplify the effort.
 
Stretching skin and then impact is another technique which is not often taught.  But, if any understanding of drumming, the hide taunt will not allow flexibility or the nerves and blood fed veins to move aside from impact.
 
I am not one for 'muscle through' a stroke.  I much prefer speed.  As we, in general; seen straws driven through the trunk of a massive oak during a hurricane; the speed in sending forward a stroke out performs sheer weight/muscle in the impact.  Combination can tripple the affect/effect of strokes of an impliment.
 
Hand grip plays an important part in either retarding the tool or allowing it to live and vibrate in the hand.  Any impact, regardless to a 4x4 board or a living human being--all things vibrate. To death grip a tool or to use the index finger on the tool while holding, will retard the vibration. [Fully explained on The Art of Caning/Style of Caning on www.CANE-IAC.com's web site]
 
A loose hand will also permit a recall of the tool if necessary.  This 'recall' works on all impact tools.  It is easily demonstrated by placing a piece of leather, rope, belt in a loose hand and gently hold then squeeze the hand shut tightly.  The other end of the rope, held fast by a friend, your other hand, tied to a chair or drawer handle--the movement will be noticed.  Even two fingers pinching a piece of leather--will recall the leather to the person pinching or gripping tight.  If already in a death grip, the ability to recall is thrust purely on jerking back and ruin of the rythmn of the stroke.
 
The sjambok is an African riot stick/club.  It is hard rubber--it will/can/may break bones--that is what its designed to do; to disable the person in the riot who is out of control. Landing on joints and on the tailbone is extremely dangerous.  Deep impact can also cause blood clots so that needs to be kept in mind.
 
Wire coat hangers, known as a 'pimp paddle' work extremely well.  One straightened out and then coated in tool dip which gives a rubbery grip with texture like stucko makes an interesting impact tool also.  Automotive 'valve hose' covering wire is also another impact tool not often manufactured.
 
Jewelry chain in strands and add until they splay badly and keep in the amount where the strands don't splay--makes a chain flail that can be rather nasty.  I have used two strand bike chain for a flail also.  Its difficult to use and used like a paddle.  I recommend DeTail's chain flail also.
 
Find an old leather glove for your spanking hand, which you can 'ruin' if you wish.  Soak in warm water and it will add to the weight of your spank strokes without adding muscle behind it. 
 
Nylon makes a texture that is like a file.  Making a flogger or paddle out of nylon like material which is used on military knives as a sheath; creates plenty of sensory fun.  Dip in water, freeze and then use is wonderful.  This method can work on metal canes, paddles, spatchulas, metal spoons as well.  (Two serving spoons frozen then grip a breast or testicles...fun).  Nylon floggers can be soaked in water and the weight of water in the nylon would increase impact ability without adding muscle behind it.  Just make sure that nylon cloth for flogger is flexible dry or wet.  Canvas can also work as well.
 
Wet and soaked wool is heavy as well--especially for Sadists on a budget and make their own tools.
 
Rubber auto flaps also work as paddles.  Extremely heavy impact without needed weight behind it.  Volvo mud flaps are little enough pre made to be a paddle.  Cheese boards, cutting boards also make good paddles.  Ping-pong paddles can work well also.  The rubber on one side can give an interesting texture.
 
Fish tank gravel in a thin zip lock bag or suran wrap and now days, press 'n seal; then lay on the target area and then impact with tool of choice--can give painful sensations and gives more application abilities for a tool one has.

 
Knots in leather tails or strands work well.  Place knots in different  places so the flail/flogger/cat will hang straight and knots on knots won't bounce another tail off one another.  Metal beads can be added but, do not use plastic or glass beads as they shatter.  Make sure the beads are made solid, not two halves glued together. 
 
For those who have rope floggers, braiding the strands and adding hair beads is an option to turn a fluffy rope flogger into a cat and or flail.

Again, all these things can cause injury and or injury leading to death.  I caution strongly to any and all, to practice on items and never straight off on a human.  Using a rubber balloon that is 7/8 inflated --if you break the balloon--its too much force.
 
Please practice Sadism and masochism safely.
 
Just some thoughts.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs
 

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RE: Heavy impact (SM) implement recommendations? - 12/2/2007 8:13:28 AM   
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thick leather paddle, which is fluffy on one side, it feels absolutely divine on the fluffy side, then without warning turn it over and *whack* 


My Dom has one and enjoys using it when appropiate

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RE: Heavy impact (SM) implement recommendations? - 12/2/2007 8:18:50 AM   
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We picked up an item called an "elephant's trunk" at a kink event, but it can probably be purchased on-line from the sort of places that sell replica knives and other historical weapons... Has a cast metal handle, and a tapered rubber shaft about two feet long, with a hard rubber ball at the end. Welts like a bastard. 

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RE: Heavy impact (SM) implement recommendations? - 12/2/2007 8:23:12 AM   
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The sjambok is an African riot stick/club.  It is hard rubber--it will/can/may break bones--that is what its designed to do; to disable the person in the riot who is out of control. Landing on joints and on the tailbone is extremely dangerous.  Deep impact can also cause blood clots so that needs to be kept in mind.


Well yes, that is what they have become commonly made of and used for but....before Apartheid, the sjambok's most well known use was for driving cattle and were usually made of rhinoceros or hippopotamus hide. The plastic/rubber versions are much cheaper but you can still get a good quality sjambok whip made from hide.

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RE: Heavy impact (SM) implement recommendations? - 12/2/2007 9:56:43 AM   
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Those burning rubber things look deadly.  Thank god they're sold out!!!



Actually, I think he might have a few left. If not I have a friend who can make them if he really wants one. Just trying to help. (Oh, and they really do leave tread marks)


shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh  Can you girls please NOT tell Master about these evil wicked  things  please please I promise to be good forever. ... Oh dear Lordy I hope he doesnt see this. And to think we were just talking about new toys.

Whispers to Ms. Syrup nope i don't remember seeing anything like these in chain desires do you ? 

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RE: Heavy impact (SM) implement recommendations? - 12/2/2007 10:44:29 AM   
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i got beaten with two new things last night....a wooden oar (the handle shortened) and a toy hockey stick (the guy said it came in a set with other toy sized stuff for like $5) Also someone was using what looked like a long shoe horn thing last night (looked very stingy)....


Also someone metnioned a cherry wood cane that was kinda thick....it left an impression on her (and i mean literally)


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