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SirDominic -> RE: Showing Him I'm worth it(his sub) (12/22/2007 9:17:44 AM)

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I want a certain Dom as my Dom (granted I only know him through his profile, never met or chatted)


Why do you want him as your Dom? You've never met him, never talked to him. You know nothing about him. How can you possibly know if you want him, or would even like him?

This is not a matter of whether or not you should pursue him. It is ALL about going inside and seeking answers about yourself that will help you understand why you made this decision based on practically nothing.




sexyred1 -> RE: Showing Him I'm worth it(his sub) (12/22/2007 9:44:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: masterlink65

doesnt mean hes gonna email her back either.

i didnt know photos of ones self are that hard to come by these days.

if i give out my phone number and someone calls me from a restricted or unavailable number, i will not answer. to me that person has something to hide. i do not need that.same with lack of photo.

for me it is hard to start a relationship on anonominity



Oh really now? Perhaps if you had been stalked in your life and the only way you were able to avoid that crap was to utilize a phone with a blocked number, you would perhaps change your judgement.

I have both my landline and my cell listed as private and restricted. I CHOOSE whom I will unblock it for. My friends and family know how to reach me as well as work.

Having a blocked number does not mean you are hiding, it means that you don't want every lunatic who, after you have first conversation with and then decide you don't want to meet them, continue to call you and badger you.

It is called self preservation. Read up on it.




KatyLied -> RE: Showing Him I'm worth it(his sub) (12/22/2007 10:18:53 AM)

Yeah, it pretty much doesn't make a lot of sense.  




ElanSubdued -> RE: Showing Him I'm worth it(his sub) (12/22/2007 11:17:18 AM)

Stacee,

I've read the four pages of responses so far.  Many have given pros and cons about you sending or not sending a picture.  A few people have mentioned that you don't know the guy at all and have built him up in your mind (which seems to me that you have).

I see nothing wrong with not sending a picture until your comfort is established.  When I read a profile, I get a vibe.  Sometimes that vibe feels comfortable enough that I send a picture along with my first corespondance.  Other times, well... the vibe (i.e. my comfort level with what the person has written) isn't so strong and thus I'll send an email solo (sans picture).  When I don't send a picture I am, in esence, checking the person out.  I'm using caution and want to find out more about the person before I give out my picture.  There is no reason to give your picture to a complete stranger, especially if your comfort level isn't there.

If there is one thing I've learned in BDSM courtships it is always to follow my gut instincts.  Thus, for whatever reason, if your instinct is not to send a photo, then don't send one.  How a dominant handles with this will tell you a lot about them as a person.  For example, if you ask for more information (as you did) and offer a photo once your comfort level is established, as above, I see nothing wrong with this.  In fact, I think this is a very good approach because it shows both caution and self value.  If the dominant's response is not to reply, so be it.  He has just told you everything you needed to know and validated that your caution was appropriate.

Case in point, one thing that causes me to immediately discard somone from further consideration is if they demand a picture.  A dominant who demands a picture isn't showing consideration and grace.  After we've exchanged a few emails, if they ask for a picture, this seems like a reasonable request and I'll send one if the vibe is right.  Sometimes I may have sent a picture without them asking.  It all depends on the vibe and feel I get from the person.  The vibe is *never right* when a dominant makes demands of me that I'm not comfortable with.  Now I'll agree that not all submission is comfortable.  But in the case where I'm submitting in a way that is uncomfortable for me, this is the type of submission I give to a trusted partner, not to a stranger.  And you can bet this too, if I'm uncomfortable with what we're doing, I've communicated this to my partner and we are working through my discomfort together (which may mean abandoning the activity momentarily, slowing the pace, allowing one or both of us to ask questioins and do research, etc.).

So back to your quandary Stacee.  Keep in mind that dating is dating.  People sometimes think that because we're kinksters this changes the rules.  I wholeheartedly disagree with this point of view.  Getting to know a kinky person is no different than courting a vanilla person.  You unwrap layers, lean more about the person, and through doing so, build trust slowly.  Communiction goes both ways.  When someone doesn't reply to you, that is commuication.  Often this means they are not interested or too busy with other things in their life.  As the case is here, it may mean that the person places high value on visual stimulation.  Whatever the case, do you really want to be with someone who is not interested in you, has no time for you, and/or only values you as a visual trophy?

My advice is as follows:

1.)  With regard to the dominant you're attempting to woo, perhaps contact him one more time to see if he got your letter.  Depending on your comfort level, you night choose to send a picture.  Personally, were I in your shoes, at this point I wouldn't send a picture because there is little value in risking sending a picture to someone who has shown no interest.  Yes, this might be a self fulfilling prophesy.  No picture = no interest.  So be it.  If the dominant doesn't reply, move on.  There are lots of fish in the sea and on Collar Me.

2.)  In some of your replies here, you didn't use proper English.  (i.e. you omited capital letters, and sometimes left out punctuation.)  As best as you can, always use proper English.  When you introduce yourself to someone in an email, all they have to go on is your text and picture.  If you've left out the picture, the text and thoughts are the reader's entire view of you as a person.  Thus, it's important to make these as correct and readable as possible.

3.)  Sir Dominic wrote some excellent thoughts to ponder which I'll quote here:

quote:

SirDominic:
Why do you want him as your Dom?  You've never met him, never talked to him.  You know nothing about him.  How can you possibly know if you want him, or would even like him?  This is not a matter of whether or not you should pursue him.  It is ALL about going inside and seeking answers about yourself that will help you understand why you made this decision based on practically nothing.


Try not to build people up in your mind before you get to know them.  A profile tells you a bit about a person as a starting point.  By all means, reply to profiles you find attractive, but remember that there are many reasons someone may not reply to you.  It is sometimes easy (especially during the Christmas time of year) to allow the desire for companionship to overrule self value and common sense.  Be aware of this and slow down your pace a bit.  Value and enjoy yourself as a person first.  Relationships come second to this.

Side note:  sorry this post is extremely long and verbose.  I could have cut this down, but there are other priorities I need to attend to this morning.

Good luck,

Elan.




CalifChick -> RE: Showing Him I'm worth it(his sub) (12/22/2007 3:41:50 PM)

This thread was bumped by someone with a personal... issue with one poster.  It appears, according to the OP's journal, that her sole criteria for wanting this Dom was that his eyes drew her in. Perhaps one day she'll come back and let us know if her selection criteria has changed.

Cali




laurell3 -> RE: Showing Him I'm worth it(his sub) (12/22/2007 5:06:38 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SirDominic

quote:

I want a certain Dom as my Dom (granted I only know him through his profile, never met or chatted)


Why do you want him as your Dom? You've never met him, never talked to him. You know nothing about him. How can you possibly know if you want him, or would even like him?

This is not a matter of whether or not you should pursue him. It is ALL about going inside and seeking answers about yourself that will help you understand why you made this decision based on practically nothing.


Agreed.




YourhandMyAss -> RE: Showing Him I'm worth it(his sub) (12/22/2007 11:56:57 PM)

That is not nessisarily a safe assumption.  I live with my parents, and my house number shows up as private all the time when I call my Daddy.  I have absolutely nothing to hide, and in fact before him I never knew we didn't show up on caller ID.
quote:

ORIGINAL: masterlink65


if i give out my phone number and someone calls me from a restricted or unavailable number, i will not answer. to me that person has something to hide.




masterlink65 -> RE: Showing Him I'm worth it(his sub) (12/25/2007 6:01:16 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1

quote:

ORIGINAL: masterlink65

doesnt mean hes gonna email her back either.

i didnt know photos of ones self are that hard to come by these days.

if i give out my phone number and someone calls me from a restricted or unavailable number, i will not answer. to me that person has something to hide. i do not need that.same with lack of photo.

for me it is hard to start a relationship on anonominity



Oh really now? Perhaps if you had been stalked in your life and the only way you were able to avoid that crap was to utilize a phone with a blocked number, you would perhaps change your judgement.

I have both my landline and my cell listed as private and restricted. I CHOOSE whom I will unblock it for. My friends and family know how to reach me as well as work.

Having a blocked number does not mean you are hiding, it means that you don't want every lunatic who, after you have first conversation with and then decide you don't want to meet them, continue to call you and badger you.

It is called self preservation. Read up on it.



thanks for putting anything i say on the butcher block.. so i give you my number, and you dont give me yours? that seems fair, i mean really it seems real fair.... also ,, only women get stalked?men dont have to be careful? only women are victims? quit using gender as an excuse to be sneaky, and evasive. if she wants this dude so bad, send him a fucking photo.  this isnt junior high,,,, well for me anyway.




KatyLied -> RE: Showing Him I'm worth it(his sub) (12/25/2007 6:13:40 AM)

How can she want some guy she hasn't even talked to?  I really don't understand that sort of interpersonal functioning.






masterlink65 -> RE: Showing Him I'm worth it(his sub) (12/25/2007 6:41:03 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

That is not nessisarily a safe assumption.  I live with my parents, and my house number shows up as private all the time when I call my Daddy.  I have absolutely nothing to hide, and in fact before him I never knew we didn't show up on caller ID.
quote:

ORIGINAL: masterlink65


if i give out my phone number and someone calls me from a restricted or unavailable number, i will not answer. to me that person has something to hide.


well if you and "daddy" have that worked out, then thats all cool and the gang with me, and it would be if you explained that to me, but dont tell me how bad you have to have me, how much you need me as your dom, tell me i am soo fucking hot you cant live without me, then turn around and give me orders and play games over a fucking photo. this man wants a photo, not her pension, and 401k.




masterlink65 -> RE: Showing Him I'm worth it(his sub) (12/25/2007 6:48:49 AM)

people keep bringing up all this about dynamics and lifestyle. if you havent noticed, this site is suposed to be for master/slave dom/sub lifestyle. if you have a profile and have yourself listed as a dom or sub, well i would consider that part of the equation to be taken care of already. that dynamic has already been established. she asked for opinions and i gave mine, but according to you i am not qualified to have an opinion??????????

and the photo isnt what is or isnt submission or dominace here. its the fact she stated how badly she needed to sub for this dom, then she turned and gave ultimatum, showing aggression. please do not confuse aggressive sub behavior, with a sub having a question or concern




lusciouslips19 -> RE: Showing Him I'm worth it(his sub) (12/25/2007 6:57:43 AM)

Or better yet, put your photo on your profile like the rest of us.

It was your Superdoms photo that "drew you in". Obviously the photos make the difference to YOU. So put pics on your profile and then the Doms who are interested will contact you. Its not rocket science. Even the ones with blocked numbers have pics.




ligar59 -> RE: Showing Him I'm worth it(his sub) (12/25/2007 12:24:57 PM)

Well I suppose he is mulling over the pros and cons of the dynamic? He may want something more than just someone he can dominate in the bedroom? If he is so wonderful maybe you might reassess your dynamic, and consider being his sub outside of the bedroom as well as in?[8|]




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