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eboneesub -> RE: How would you be punished if you did this? (12/6/2007 8:14:38 PM)

Well this is my advice, he cannot have his cake and eat it as well, he  can come clean because all marriages, relationships hit rough spots, face the music and work on rebuilding the trust or he can move and play all he wants on the computer.




juliaoceania -> RE: How would you be punished if you did this? (12/6/2007 11:14:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LaDee

Recently I discovered that My sub has been naughty. I recently discovered that he has a cyber buddy.  When I asked him if he was doing anything that I had NOT allowed he denied everything. I hate a liar! I found the emails & IMs and he was dealt with.


There would be no punishment, he would just dump me, end of story




kyraofMists -> RE: How would you be punished if you did this? (12/7/2007 3:06:13 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LaDee

You  are right...I NO longer trust him! it effects everything.  Not sure if W/we will make it.


I have not read the rest of the thread, but the first thing that came to mind when reading this far...

I wonder why he doesn't trust YOU enough to share something that is interesting to him.  This sounds like it is just a symptom of a problem.  What isn't working in your relationship that he thought he had to lie to you?

Unless he is a habitual liar, there is more going on than just having an online friend.

To answer your original question, if I did something like that at this point in our relationship, he would be shocked.  He would want conversations to get to the heart of the issue.  Lying to him about something so simple as an online friend would be an indication of a bigger problem.  Maybe the problem could be fixed and we would move on from there to rebuild trust between us or maybe it couldn't and we would have to end our relationship.  If there is no problem and I just lied to make things easier for myself, I would be out the door.


Knight's Kyra




kyraofMists -> RE: How would you be punished if you did this? (12/7/2007 3:08:57 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LaDee

At first I spoke w/ him abt it he still denies it just says they r friends.  I emailed her and told her he was NOT available and she lied and said they were ONLY friends too. Then I caught them sending IMs latenight and I busted them.  I told her to saty away from him or I would post their conversations online.


Uhhh... Just because they are sending IM's late at night does not automatically mean they are more than friends.  Frankly, your response to her was rather immature and petty.  Your issue isn't with her, it is with him. 

Knight's Kyra




wisteriaV -> RE: How would you be punished if you did this? (12/7/2007 3:58:45 AM)

There is no room in any relationship for any form of lying in my view. Master and I would immediately  break the relationship  up if either of us lied. While we both have net friends and we have both offered to share what e-mails or im's we get from others, neither of us has taken the offer up...we have trust for each other.




laurell3 -> RE: How would you be punished if you did this? (12/7/2007 10:48:59 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kyraofMists

quote:

ORIGINAL: LaDee

At first I spoke w/ him abt it he still denies it just says they r friends.  I emailed her and told her he was NOT available and she lied and said they were ONLY friends too. Then I caught them sending IMs latenight and I busted them.  I told her to saty away from him or I would post their conversations online.


Uhhh... Just because they are sending IM's late at night does not automatically mean they are more than friends.  Frankly, your response to her was rather immature and petty.  Your issue isn't with her, it is with him. 

Knight's Kyra


That struck me as a bit over-the-top as well. 




Heartisan -> RE: How would you be punished if you did this? (12/7/2007 1:05:53 PM)

First off I am new so I don't know any of you well, so pardon if I offend anyone, it is never my intention.

I agree with it being a problem, the trust issue is lost and that is tough to gain back.  That said, I also tend to play devil's advocate and try to look from all sides.  The only situation that I can see this as undrestandable (not excusable) is if he has expressed a deep need that the Dom is unable/unwilling to satisfy, or allow satisfaction. 

Example:  Someone I know is new to the lifestyle, his wife is also new, and wants to be his owner, but she can not flog him without drinking first, and even then, it's not well.  He is s truck driver and comes through my town occasionally, and has been to the local club, and has experienced a real flogging (misunderstanding of limits between his wife and he) when he shouldn't have, but now he realizes how deep a need it is for him to have that release.  She is not even willing to compromise because she is extremely insecure and thinks he is looking to replace her (I know he loves her, and that is so not the case) and no matter what he does or says to reassure her, she is still suspicious.  Now I don't encourage him to lie, but how is he to prove his loyalty if not given the opportunity to do so?  Ownership to me also includes some sort of responsiblity to at least listen, and consider the needs of the sub and try to find a way to at least compromise.

He will not play again without her express and clear permission, but I could see his need and her denial of it is going to eventually damage the part of their relationship that does work.  So what should he do?  Personally, if the relationship was not working out and I was not getting needs met that I felt that strongly about, I would end the relationship, but he really doesn't want to do that.  I also think she can't really be his owner since she doesn't really have a desire to help him, just the desire to control him in a very selfish way.  (btw.. she is allowed to play with others at will)  So does he end the relatiionship, or deny that need and have it tear them both up in the long run.  I think I could understand a little cyber in this case if that helped him any. 

Lying is NEVER acceptable to me, but I am also very open to discussion and compromise whether it is my Master, or my subs.  Trust however can never be compromised.
Just another point of view...

NOTE: To Mistress Taboo... I did not copy the song from your tagline !! Too funny, I've been using it for years, just a different line from the same song.

Jewel
Bi, Poly, and Switch... I don't believe in limiting my options [sm=trident.gif]
"I'm a bitch, I'm a tease, I'm a goddess on my knees"... Meredith Brooks "The Bitch"




tdslittlehelper -> RE: How would you be punished if you did this? (12/13/2007 12:12:38 AM)

My Sir would communicate with me.  I am allowed to talk to anyone.  But lying is NOT a good thing... I would be more ashamed of myself then anything.  It makes me wonder thought.  They both say that they are just friends.  Is it possible that you are just reading into things.  




LaDee -> RE: How would you be punished if you did this? (12/20/2007 11:43:38 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Heartisan

First off I am new so I don't know any of you well, so pardon if I offend anyone, it is never my intention.

I agree with it being a problem, the trust issue is lost and that is tough to gain back.  That said, I also tend to play devil's advocate and try to look from all sides.  The only situation that I can see this as undrestandable (not excusable) is if he has expressed a deep need that the Dom is unable/unwilling to satisfy, or allow satisfaction. 

Example:  Someone I know is new to the lifestyle, his wife is also new, and wants to be his owner, but she can not flog him without drinking first, and even then, it's not well.  He is s truck driver and comes through my town occasionally, and has been to the local club, and has experienced a real flogging (misunderstanding of limits between his wife and he) when he shouldn't have, but now he realizes how deep a need it is for him to have that release.  She is not even willing to compromise because she is extremely insecure and thinks he is looking to replace her (I know he loves her, and that is so not the case) and no matter what he does or says to reassure her, she is still suspicious.  Now I don't encourage him to lie, but how is he to prove his loyalty if not given the opportunity to do so?  Ownership to me also includes some sort of responsiblity to at least listen, and consider the needs of the sub and try to find a way to at least compromise.

He will not play again without her express and clear permission, but I could see his need and her denial of it is going to eventually damage the part of their relationship that does work.  So what should he do?  Personally, if the relationship was not working out and I was not getting needs met that I felt that strongly about, I would end the relationship, but he really doesn't want to do that.  I also think she can't really be his owner since she doesn't really have a desire to help him, just the desire to control him in a very selfish way.  (btw.. she is allowed to play with others at will)  So does he end the relatiionship, or deny that need and have it tear them both up in the long run.  I think I could understand a little cyber in this case if that helped him any. 

Lying is NEVER acceptable to me, but I am also very open to discussion and compromise whether it is my Master, or my subs.  Trust however can never be compromised.
Just another point of view...

NOTE: To Mistress Taboo... I did not copy the song from your tagline !! Too funny, I've been using it for years, just a different line from the same song.

Jewel
Bi, Poly, and Switch... I don't believe in limiting my options [sm=trident.gif]
"I'm a bitch, I'm a tease, I'm a goddess on my knees"... Meredith Brooks "The Bitch"

Thanks for sharing .  I find your story very interesting .  After posted here  I sat down w/ pet to have a heart -to-heart. Things seem to going better. 




mhawk -> RE: How would you be punished if you did this? (12/20/2007 11:48:39 AM)




i know some of this has already been said but i will say from my stand point i know first and foremost my Lord and my Mistress would both punish me severly.i have no reason to do anything behind Their backs first not only would it destry the trust i have gained from them but it would also destroy all that we have built together.






littleone35 -> RE: How would you be punished if you did this? (12/20/2007 1:28:30 PM)

I would nevr do this.  But lets say i would  then cybering would be cheating but i think the lie would hurt Master more. I think i would get punished more for the lie then the cybering.  (hmm have to ask Master about this)


Matt's littleone




trueshadow -> RE: How would you be punished if you did this? (12/20/2007 2:54:14 PM)

I would hope I wouldn't be released but would be beaten severely, not as a reward but as pure punishment.  Perhaps ignored for a while as well.

As others have pointed out, lying is a very serious offense to commit with one's Superior.




desertdancer -> RE: How would you be punished if you did this? (12/20/2007 7:17:29 PM)

I am very careful online as my Husband says I'm a flirt.  Truth be told no one even comes onto my radar, I'm so in love with my Master.  I am a C-sexual ( his first name starts with a C)  He really is the only one who does it for me, so the idea of cybering or stepping outside our marrage doesn't do anything for me.  Now I would cyber with him, if we were away from eachother, that would turn me on.

I've been on the flip side of this coin.  I was once emailed by a wife who was very upset.  She thought her husband and I were cybering.  I was very offended.  I wrote her a very nice well thought out email where I did not tell her to go fuck herself, but told her that there was no way he and I had done anything, nor would we ever.  All we were tying to do was run a gamming server together. He was the owner I was the lead DM 'course we were going to have to talk to eachother.

Anyway, I have no idea if she believed me or what happened in their relationship.  I stepped down from running the game and have not looked back since.

So, my words of caution would be to try to get more of the whole story rather then start sending hate mail to innocent people.




whipingherfeet -> RE: How would you be punished if you did this? (1/5/2008 3:11:04 AM)

beat the soles of  his feet util he pass es out




backseatbebe -> RE: How would you be punished if you did this? (1/5/2008 9:11:16 AM)

i wonder where your subs head at, choosing cyber over reality, really now




AquaticSub -> RE: How would you be punished if you did this? (1/5/2008 1:03:16 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: whipingherfeet

beat the soles of  his feet util he pass es out


Amazingly, that isn't the answer for everything.




whipingherfeet -> RE: How would you be punished if you did this? (1/5/2008 1:19:32 PM)

why not 




AquaticSub -> RE: How would you be punished if you did this? (1/5/2008 9:21:44 PM)

Because people, strangely, aren't all the same nor is every offense. Submissives, slaves, dominants and masters are not cookie cutter replicas of each other.




swtnsparkling -> RE: How would you be punished if you did this? (1/5/2008 9:27:20 PM)

A Liar?     Easy......GONE- don't waste my time




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