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Name Capping - 8/16/2005 9:27:54 AM   
perverseangelic


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Status: offline 		I think it's just the English major in me, but does it bug anyone else when people drop the capitol letter in your name?

My handle is not capped. I don't expect someone else to automatically cap it, because that's the way I wrote it. Hoewver, when I respond to someone with my first name it is -always- capped. Yet 3/4 of the time the dominant people who write to or about me drop the cap.

I've also noticed on this forum a tendancy to drop the cap of submissive people's handles, even when the handle itself is capped.

Does this bug anyone but me? Am I being way to editor-y and picky?

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RE: Name Capping - 8/16/2005 9:31:18 AM   
cellogrrlMK


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Status: offline 		perverse, when I sign my given (by my parents) name to anything I capitalize it. That's the A English student in me!

However, when I use my online name in this context I sign it,

cello

< Message edited by cellogrrlMK -- 8/16/2005 9:32:40 AM >

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RE: Name Capping - 8/16/2005 9:38:08 AM   
Veav


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quote:

ORIGINAL: perverseangelic
Does this bug anyone but me? Am I being way to editor-y and picky?

It bugs the living daylights out of me. Proper nouns need capitalizing, and every submissive is a unique individual that deserves to be recognized as such. On the other hand, a lot of people do it on both ends, including people who have made valuable contributions on this board - so it's one of those things I let pass, and while I will naturally capitalize names, if someone specifically requests otherwise I'll be a gentleman and play along. It doesn't harm anyone except the english major in me, cringing at every sig. }:D

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RE: Name Capping - 8/16/2005 9:42:04 AM   
EmeraldSlave2


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Status: offline 		Argh next time a thread moves don't do it when I am writing a reply!!!!

I dislike it when someone else does it to ME because it's an imposition of their values and rituals on me.

When someone does it to themselves, I don't even notice.

When someone suggests I'm doing something WRONG with what I do, then I get aggrivated and then move on.

When someone uses I/i it irritates me not only because there's absolutely no consistency on how a person uses it from another but it makes posts extremely difficult to read.

But it won't change, the word subbie will still be used, the sub slave debate will come up again and we will move on.

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RE: Name Capping - 8/16/2005 10:54:51 AM   
onceburned


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quote:

ORIGINAL: perverseangelic
My handle is not capped. I don't expect someone else to automatically cap it, because that's the way I wrote it. Hoewver, when I respond to someone with my first name it is -always- capped. Yet 3/4 of the time the dominant people who write to or about me drop the cap.


I don't have a firm way of dealing with the problem, other than trying to follow the other person's lead i.e., if they cap their name I cap it and if they don't I try not to.

However, I tend to cap by default and also when starting a sentence with that person's name. I think a capital at the beginning of a sentence is simply being polite to the reader.

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RE: Name Capping - 8/16/2005 12:00:13 PM   
junecleaver


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Status: offline 		It kind of bothers me when other people do that. If I don't cap my name it is because I'm lazy, not subtly sending out the message I am a submissive/less than worthy or whatever.

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RE: Name Capping - 8/16/2005 12:06:25 PM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		I am into bottle capping in a big way!

Ron


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RE: Name Capping - 8/16/2005 2:01:20 PM   
sub4hire


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Status: offline 		It doesn't bother me. Actually I don't even notice if alledged dominants are dropping my name like that.
What has always bothered me since I've been online are those who tell you to drop the capital letter on your name.
This did not exist before the internet. The lifestyle was working better then than it is today.
It is an online thing only. Frankly I am not seeking anyone. I am equal to all if not above some. So, telling me to drop the cap on my name is offensive to me.
Anyone who must claim superiority over another individual to try to make a point has some issues they need to straighten out in my mind.


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RE: Name Capping - 8/16/2005 4:12:07 PM   
hardbodysub


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Status: offline 		I'm not fond of the practice, but it doesn't bother me very much. Yes, proper nouns should be capitalized, and I don't really like the concept from a philosophical point of view, but it's not a terribly impractical concession to make.

On the other hand, I think the practice of capitalizing pronouns which shouldn't be capitalized (me, my, mine, etc.) when they relate to dominant people, and using lower case i when it relates to subs is repulsive. Properly following the rules of grammar and punctuation makes it easy to read written communication. These D/s capitalization conventions render written communication more difficult to read and MUCH more difficult to write, and are not worth a damn, in my opinion.

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RE: Name Capping - 8/16/2005 4:43:02 PM   
EmeraldSlave2


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quote:

ORIGINAL: sub4hire
The lifestyle was working better then than it is today.

Depends on how you define "better." In my area I can now have a choice of 6-10 munches per month, a club to party at every single Friday, Saturday and Sunday, sometimes two clubs, tons of private parties, at least one if not two demos/workshops on various topics, non-kink socials and picnics galore.

That's not the whole picture of course, there's politics, there's normalcy, there's wankers, there's assholes, there's psycho subs and all that jazz.

But overall, I think "the lifestyle" is working a lot better today.

And I can say personally that MY lifestyle is absolutely working better.

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RE: Name Capping - 8/16/2005 7:11:10 PM   
thelight


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Status: offline 		i rarely capitolize anything. just too lazy to bother with the shift key. but occasionally i'll be in the mood to type properly.

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RE: Name Capping - 8/16/2005 7:30:58 PM   
sub4hire


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quote:

That's not the whole picture of course, there's politics, there's normalcy, there's wankers, there's assholes, there's psycho subs and all that jazz.


Back in the 50's and 60's even the 70's there was none of that. Just a sense of belonging.

I didn't live back then at least I wasn't old enough to participate but society sure has eroded since then.

As you said though, it all depends on how you feel as an individual.

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RE: Name Capping - 8/16/2005 8:37:28 PM   
domtimothy46176


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Status: offline 		While I try to be patient with little idiosyncracies like the whole uncapped name thing, it's still disturbing to see an otherwise properly written essay contain an i instead of an I for a personal pronoun. It's glaringly obvious and annoying in a jarring type of way. But, as ES@ points out, it will continue.
I do give whomever I'm corresponding with the respect of addressing them as they have introduced themselves. If someone signs themselves ellen, I'll address her as ellen, if she signs herself Ellen, I'll address her as Ellen. I think of it as common courtesy. I do make exceptions for those who incorporate titles or roles in their handles. I'm Timothy, not DomTimothy. If corresponding with MasterJake, I'll address him simply as Jake. In the same way, I might address EmeraldSlave2 as Emerald, although I'm more prone to address her as ES2.
Timothy

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RE: Name Capping - 8/16/2005 9:07:52 PM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		Can we change the name of this boring son-of-a-bitch to "knee capping" , get some goons in here and act like it's friday night?

Fractionalizationally, (think of it as shattering a glass pane over your head, in terms of hypnosis)

Ron

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RE: Name Capping - 8/16/2005 9:14:28 PM   
EmeraldSlave2


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quote:

ORIGINAL: domtimothy46176

I might address EmeraldSlave2 as Emerald, although I'm more prone to address her as ES2.
Timothy


And I am fine with this for a variety of reasons

1) Internet names lend themselves to shorthand
2) The intent is to communicate a clear quick directive towards me, nothing more or less
3) Nothing is lost in the shorthand, the meaning remains clear
4) A level of familiarity on the boards has lent itself to this level of casualty.

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RE: Name Capping - 8/16/2005 10:15:19 PM   
perverseangelic


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Status: offline 		While I dislike weird capping procedures in general, I'm ok with people who want to use the conventions for themselves. I'm cool with I/i speak though I don't personally like it.

What bugs me is the concious choice to uncap a submissive person's name. I can tell when someone just doesn't use caps. There aren't any, obiviously.

I get irritated when it's obvious someone took the time to make sure not to capitolize my name (proper name, obviously, as my handle is non-capped) while capitolizing either their name or their name and pronouns.

I got a letter from someone, I replied and signed it with my name. They replied and addressed it to

"samanth" while the rest of the letter was accuratly capped.

I asked that they cap my name. Petty, I know, but a pet peeve of mine, also the preference of my partner (Though it's hard to believe here, I have a problem being assertive and his requiring me to be addressed in standard english has helped my assertiveness)

The individual replied that I clearly had no submissive nature and that my partner was pussy whipped.

Block.

I know, it's petty, but it bugs me. Too, I'm of the belief that a dominant person should respect another dominant persons' wishes in respect to his/her property. Should my parnter prefer I address all dominant people as Sir/Ma'am I would hope that other's would be ok with that, as long as I explained why I was doing it.

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RE: Name Capping - 8/16/2005 10:28:06 PM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		Actually, thats a great story, I will always take some of that with me.

Ron

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RE: Name Capping - 8/16/2005 10:42:25 PM   
DesertRat


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quote:

ORIGINAL: cellogrrlMK

perverse, when I sign my given (by my parents) name to anything I capitalize it. That's the A English student in me!

However, when I use my online name in this context I sign it,

cello


I take my cue from the person I'm communicating with. I see how she signs her own name and do the same. When I email with my friend cello, for example, I don't cap her name because she doesn't. If there aren't any clues, I default to capping.

Bob

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RE: Name Capping - 8/17/2005 3:27:45 AM   
NakedOnMyChain


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Status: offline 		It's a little picky, no lie. But I'm the same way. There used to be a dom running around on here that wouldn't talk to you unless you left your given name uncapitalized. (ah, the old capitol/capital thing). It irritated me greatly. After all, unless I'm submitting directly to someone, I reserve the right to have my name written how I like.

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RE: Name Capping - 8/17/2005 5:12:24 AM   
JohnWarren


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quote:

ORIGINAL: sub4hire

quote:

That's not the whole picture of course, there's politics, there's normalcy, there's wankers, there's assholes, there's psycho subs and all that jazz.


Back in the 50's and 60's even the 70's there was none of that. Just a sense of belonging.

I didn't live back then at least I wasn't old enough to participate but society sure has eroded since then.

As you said though, it all depends on how you feel as an individual.



I did my first scene in 1964. Things were a LOT worse then. There were no organizations for hets. (TES got started in 1969 and that was the first one) There were no nonfiction books even for the gays. Leatherman's Guide didn't appear until ten years later. SM101, the first hetro nonfiction had to wait until 1992. There were a few contact magazines, but most of the adverts were phony, placed by the publishers to get money from the readers, and much of the rest were pros and con jobs.

Back then, you could be arrested for sending "obscene" letters through the first class mail, with postal inspectors "turning" people they caught to get more victims.

There wasn't a hint in the psychological literature that there was a difference between someone who spanked a girlfriend and someone who cut up babies and ate them. It was only in the late 90s that the DSM IV made that distinction.

"Old Guard" was exclusively gay and was far from the romantic version that is now popular.

These ARE the Good New Days!


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