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finding a Mistress - 12/11/2007 10:43:02 PM   
astressslave


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why is finding a Mistress so hard being a big guy
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RE: finding a Mistress - 12/11/2007 10:55:52 PM   
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Why is finding any partner hard for any reason?

You'll find that complaining about it really doesn't change anything. If you want different results, you need to do something different. So, look at what you've been doing and change it.

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RE: finding a Mistress - 12/11/2007 10:57:02 PM   
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I think finding any kind of relationship is harder for people who don't fit our ridiculous cultural standards of beauty. Not just because there are a lot of people who expect that standard, but because not fitting that standard can cripple your self-esteem, which makes you less attractive to potential relationship partners, even ones who don't care about your weight.

I actually tend to be attracted to larger boys and girls (my hubby is quite cuddly), but so many of them are just so insecure that I can't date them.

I know it's cliche, but confidence and a delightful personality really does make a difference.

On a note more specific to you. . .come on man! Put some nicer pictures on your profile! Baseball cap and frowny face? How about a smile and a nice shirt?

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RE: finding a Mistress - 12/11/2007 11:17:17 PM   
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Pardon my somewhat snarky reply, but a little effort goes a long way. Observation is a wonderful skill and can help you learn a lot. For example, one might observe that there's another thread on the first page of this forum about the exact same thing. Your size isn't what's getting in your way, it's your attitude.

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RE: finding a Mistress - 12/11/2007 11:25:04 PM   
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I don't think a Mistress is hard to find.  I see one in the mirror every day.

Seriously, the best advice I can give is to get out into the real world and go to lifestyle events/functions.  It's rare for what you're looking for to jump through the screen and land in your lap.  (Or at Her feet.  Same thing.)  Not meaning to offend, but if you do the math, think of how many couples in the history of man have met face to face.  Now balance that with the number of couples that have just met through the net.  Meeting your SO in meatlife has worked for millions of people over the course of thousands of years.  Give it a shot.


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RE: finding a Mistress - 12/12/2007 4:13:27 AM   
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Look, with a few exceptions, none of us here on CM are drop dead gorgeous. We are men and women with a variety of physical flaws. What matters is that we present ourselves at our best when attempting to find a partner. I have to agree with LadyGray, your pics are not good. When I look at a pic I don't care as much what someone looks like, but I look for a bit of his personality and attitude in the pic.

You also say almost nothing of yourself in your profile. The combination of a frowning scowly pic and no information makes you seem very unapproachable.

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RE: finding a Mistress - 12/12/2007 4:43:46 AM   
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I did a blog post a while back about finding a Mistress.  You have to increase your chances every way you can.  You don't have to be Mr. Universe or a zillionaire or Einstein, but it helps if you keep in decent shape, have a job, and can hold an intelligent conversation.  It all counts.  Being well groomed and dressed in clean, well fitting clothes helps too.  Physicality is part of it too.  We men are usually more visual than women, but some women are not into guys who are seriously overweight.  Doesn't make them bad people. 

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RE: finding a Mistress - 12/12/2007 4:56:42 AM   
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TNstepsout, you are right on the money.  There are very few on collarme that are drop-dead gorgeous, but luckily for the masses that aren't (including myself), no one is really looking for something just exclusively attractive.  It's OK to be a big guy (in my case a small guy), just make yourself more approachable.  A sour-puss isn't going to attract the ladies, I promise you.  Be yourself, portray a happy attitude and demeanor.  I know quite a few dommes that LOVE a big guy to bow down to them...it really empowers them.  So your size is somewhat of a bonus right there.

Also, your profile says you want to serve and worship a mistress, but you really don't describe how you would go about that.  What are some of your experiences?  Skills?  What sort of positive things can you bring to her life?  Why would you be an asset to her?  Don't forget to mention things you like to do in a vanilla capacity like hobbies and what you like to do for fun.  Are you affectionate?  Are you searching for long-term and monogamous?  A few better pics with you smiling and an updated profile should get you off the ground.

Good luck, my friend.  Remember, a subby without an owner is just as wrong as a puppy without a loving home

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RE: finding a Mistress - 12/12/2007 5:50:03 AM   
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you never get a second chance
for a first impression !!!!


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RE: finding a Mistress - 12/12/2007 5:56:00 AM   
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some subs wont find one cuss they dont know how to talk to a mistress or they have unreal fantasies

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RE: finding a Mistress - 12/12/2007 7:23:56 AM   
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I agree with all that's been said so far.  You need to spend some time writing a much better and more detailed profile.  That picture has got to go.  As others have stated, your expression is not nice.  Also, one way a Mistress may wish to use you is to clean her house.  In the background of your picture your house appears cluttered and in need of cleaning.  In looking at the picture a Mistress will see a big man with a scowling face in what appears to be a cluttered house.  That just doesn't make a good first impression. 

Finding a Mistress isn't easy.  If you really want to find one then you will have to put forth some effort.  A Mistress will not just fall from the sky because you want one. 

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RE: finding a Mistress - 12/12/2007 7:32:23 AM   
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why is it  some people post whiney poor me stuff on their  first posting ?BTW its not a size and shape thing .

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RE: finding a Mistress - 12/12/2007 8:40:36 AM   
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I'm going to repost what I wrote yesterday in the other thread that's also active about how to find a Domme.

Since you asked about the size issue - it's no more an issue than when dating vanilla.   For some folks it will be an issue; for others it won't.   But realistically - the pics you have posted are very unflattering - both of you and of what appears to be your home.  You know better than to be unshaven and wearing a baseball cap on a first date, right?   You also wouldn't invite someone over and not have your home company-ready clean.  Clean yourself up, put on an outfit that's appropriate for a nice evening out with a Lady (think business casual - nice slacks, button down shirt - clothes that fit properly and are clean and pressed are more important than how expensive they are), and pay attention to your environment. 

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Alot of novice subs seem to have a fantasy that a beautiful, experienced Domme (who happens to have an in-home dungeon and dress in nothing but fetish wear) will swoop down, scoop them up, and play with the sub in EXACTLY the way the sub fantasizes about, with little to no effort on the sub's part to make that happen.

Warning:  rude awakening ahead:   this scenario not going to happen.

You are not going to find a Domme willing to put in the huge amount of time and effort required on her part to teach you everything about BDSM and the lifestyle, with little to no personal effort and investment on your part.  

So what's a novice to do? 

Lose the attitude that it's someone else's job to teach you about all of this, and take responsibility for the fact that if you're interested in learning about something, then it's ultimately your job to start pursuing that knowledge.   Read books on BDSM.   Get involved in your local scene and go to educational functions.   Meet people and be friendly with them (i.e. don't act like the horny creep who is always trolling for wanking material).  Use that knowledge to start understanding where you fit into all of this, and what you have to offer in a potential relationship beyond the fantasy-driven statements like "I'll do anything" and "I'm very oral".   Eventually through your forays into the local scene, if you're a decent and sincere person, you'll probably meet Dommes who are willing to explore relationship options with you.

Even with your efforts though - be aware that there are far fewer Dommes out there than there are male subs.  There is NO guarantee you'll be able to find a Domme for a long-term relationship - it's really difficult to find someone that you mesh with on a vanilla level as well as a kink level.   Just like there's no guarantee if you were pursuing a vanilla relationship and marriage, that you would be able to find the perfectly compatible person for that.

Now don't get me wrong.  People do meet up and have BDSM relationships.   But it doesn't happen overnight and it doesn't happen with no effort.

Not interested in spending time and effort learning on your own, and not seeking a relationship?   Sure, there's an Option B - pay a prodomme for her time for a more hands-on approach. 

But understand that ultimately, your ability to be successful in exploring something you want to explore depends on YOU, and how much investment YOU want to put into it.   You put nothing into it - that's exactly what you'll get out of it.


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RE: finding a Mistress - 12/12/2007 12:35:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MsSonnetMarwood

I'm going to repost what I wrote yesterday in the other thread that's also active about how to find a Domme.

Since you asked about the size issue - it's no more an issue than when dating vanilla.   For some folks it will be an issue; for others it won't.   But realistically - the pics you have posted are very unflattering - both of you and of what appears to be your home.  You know better than to be unshaven and wearing a baseball cap on a first date, right?   You also wouldn't invite someone over and not have your home company-ready clean.  Clean yourself up, put on an outfit that's appropriate for a nice evening out with a Lady (think business casual - nice slacks, button down shirt - clothes that fit properly and are clean and pressed are more important than how expensive they are), and pay attention to your environment. 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Alot of novice subs seem to have a fantasy that a beautiful, experienced Domme (who happens to have an in-home dungeon and dress in nothing but fetish wear) will swoop down, scoop them up, and play with the sub in EXACTLY the way the sub fantasizes about, with little to no effort on the sub's part to make that happen.

Warning:  rude awakening ahead:   this scenario not going to happen.

You are not going to find a Domme willing to put in the huge amount of time and effort required on her part to teach you everything about BDSM and the lifestyle, with little to no personal effort and investment on your part.  

So what's a novice to do? 

Lose the attitude that it's someone else's job to teach you about all of this, and take responsibility for the fact that if you're interested in learning about something, then it's ultimately your job to start pursuing that knowledge.   Read books on BDSM.   Get involved in your local scene and go to educational functions.   Meet people and be friendly with them (i.e. don't act like the horny creep who is always trolling for wanking material).  Use that knowledge to start understanding where you fit into all of this, and what you have to offer in a potential relationship beyond the fantasy-driven statements like "I'll do anything" and "I'm very oral".   Eventually through your forays into the local scene, if you're a decent and sincere person, you'll probably meet Dommes who are willing to explore relationship options with you.

Even with your efforts though - be aware that there are far fewer Dommes out there than there are male subs.  There is NO guarantee you'll be able to find a Domme for a long-term relationship - it's really difficult to find someone that you mesh with on a vanilla level as well as a kink level.   Just like there's no guarantee if you were pursuing a vanilla relationship and marriage, that you would be able to find the perfectly compatible person for that.

Now don't get me wrong.  People do meet up and have BDSM relationships.   But it doesn't happen overnight and it doesn't happen with no effort.

Not interested in spending time and effort learning on your own, and not seeking a relationship?   Sure, there's an Option B - pay a prodomme for her time for a more hands-on approach. 

But understand that ultimately, your ability to be successful in exploring something you want to explore depends on YOU, and how much investment YOU want to put into it.   You put nothing into it - that's exactly what you'll get out of it.



Bravo!

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RE: finding a Mistress - 12/12/2007 12:42:07 PM   
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Look, with a few exceptions, none of us here on CM are drop dead gorgeous.
Speak for yourself. haha

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RE: finding a Mistress - 12/12/2007 12:52:41 PM   
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I am a small woman.  I have been with men of all sizes.  It makes no difference to me.  I once had a boyfriend that was six eight and I don't know how many pounds.  He filled a doorway and only sunshine one could see was between his shoulders and head.  He was so huge that when we were together, people were shocked.  One man struggled with it for half an hour then said he had to ask me something... 'Doesn't he hurt you?' lol  One woman saw us coming and her mouth dropped open, shocked and all she could do was watch us pass.  We really enjoyed that! lol

It is the person inside that matters.  Would I like some hunky, stud muffin, right from the screen of hollywood?  Yes and I have had some.  Are they still with me?  Oh hell no!  Give me a real man who has a brain and the right body parts, packaged any way, who can make me laugh... loves my torment and makes me his queen and I'm good to go... no need to dribble about what might sag or bunch out when I mess with it.  It is what he says and does that matters to me.


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RE: finding a Mistress - 12/12/2007 2:15:29 PM   
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oh its so hard to find an owner..just stick thru it . I knew someone that was a BBW and she couldnt find a Dom, eventualy she found one who said he was going ot put her on a diet regiment and exercise program...she was hesitant and felt a lil hurt by his comments but agreed...now she is in great shape, thanks him so much for it and is still with her Dom. Not saying you need a Dom/personal trainer in one just that it will happen eventually

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RE: finding a Mistress - 12/12/2007 11:03:28 PM   
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thankyou all for your thoughts was crying or complaining i just wonder and will take in all that was said. Get some better pictures of my self, those were talking a few years ago.Like i said thankyou all

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RE: finding a Mistress - 12/14/2007 8:09:32 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: NotNutsReally

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Look, with a few exceptions, none of us here on CM are drop dead gorgeous.
Speak for yourself. haha


Too fuckin funny!!!!

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RE: finding a Mistress - 12/14/2007 8:21:16 AM   
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I have met so many great subs with hopes of getting to know them and the min I say I am a BBW poof they stop responding. Can't even send a messaging saying "Thanks but no thanks I'm not interested."

Almost makes a Domme say to hell with it all and just forget about it and go back to the vanilla lifestyle.

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