Termyn8or
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There is an old saying - Money talks, bullshit walks.
I take that to mean from like a "table" when a business deal is made. Your healthcare is a business deal. You are an incredibly small part of an incredibly huge machine.
Let me put it this way, if I were to take on responsibility for your health care costs, shouldn't I have some say in what you do that could cost me money ? You read that right. If I pay all your hospital and doctor bills I have the right to control your diet. I also have the right to dictate that you not drink too much or do harmful drugs. By extension of how they think now, I should be able to prohibit you from certain activities, such as skiing. Insurance companies have already made it so you are prohibited from driving without a seat belt.
Do you want me to have that power over you ? I mean if I have to pay all your doctor bills you will never have another big mac, supersize fries, Coke. If I am the responsible party, well let's put it this way. If you have authority, responsibility comes with it. Therefore, if you take on a responsibility, there is a measure of authority which accompanies that. Therefore if I pay your doctor bills I can tell you what and what not to eat. Isn't that only fair ?
Now it's bad enough that we have insurance, and that is far from perfect of course, your medical information is bandied about the world to places where they barely speak English. The fine print lets them fuck you around for certain things. They can drop you.
As far as those who extoll the virtues of other countries' fine socialized medicine, move there. Take your defective, sugar and carb eating, aspirin dropping daily, nine different pills in the morning ass on over there. Go ahead. That is not what this country is supposed to be about.
If you are born with ten fingers and toes, a healthy endocrine system and a properly formed digestive tract, all you have to do is eat right. If you do that 99% of the time you will rarely, if ever, get sick. And that is a fact. If it weren't a fact, none of us would be here.
You can talk all day long about how long certain drugs have been around, but the thing is, what you need to get into your head, is that these drugs, even a couple hundred years ago, were invented by people. If the drug(s) they invented were essential for survival, remember the timeline here, those people would not have existed to invent the drug.
If you need a cite or quote, see the above paragraph. Simple logic. Irrefutable. Simple logic is that noone has ever invented anything essential to life. They simply wouldn't have been here.I'd really like to hear a valid argument against that. Anybody up to it ?
I think healthcare should be expensive. Like $15 for a doctor visit, a whopping $75 for a CAT scan, perhaps as much as $30 for lab work and blood tests. If you were to take all the suits out of the picture that is not all that unrealistic. That CAT scanner cost a million dollars because somebody got a bonus, and about five to ten guys are golfing at our expense. If the CAT scanner were say $150,000 like it should be, and the thing lasts for twenty years, redo the math.
Then you need $250 for the ER, the doc sees 100-120 patients a day in an almost triage type environment. He is making money, but he sees alot of people. However it would not be unreasonable to think he makes $250 a day, but the hospital collected $25,000 on his work. This is a rough example. Not the greatest in the world but it should serve to illustrate how we are being fucked.
We are being fucked by what alot of people call suits. This means the executives who do basically nothing. They make more than anyone, but they contribute nothing.
Now, logical people, if you are still with me here, what is the government ? All suits. So do you REALLY want this ?
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