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laurell3 -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/13/2007 7:46:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sammiebabygirl

When I first posted this, I was somewhat serious. I am glad that I did though, because the responses have been hilarious. I really needed them.
 
Thanks everyone.
 
jen


Cheer up Jen the perfect "warrior" is out there just waiting for ya!  [;)]




Missokyst -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/13/2007 7:49:48 PM)

Oh so true!  There will always be those that need to be more sublier, slavier, than thou.  It is amazing how people find validation in being "more" than the next person.
Kyst
quote:

ORIGINAL: Rover

When it was not sufficient to be "just" a submissive, there was consensual slavery.  When it wasnot sufficient to be "just" a slave, seven (or nine, or eleven, depending upon your source) levels were created.  When it was not sufficient to be "just" a seventh (or ninth, or eleventh) level slave, there is (evidently) a "meta slave".  And rest assured, when there is not enough stature associated with "meta slavery" something else will be created to surpass it.
 
John




sammiebabygirl -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/13/2007 7:51:27 PM)

Ok. Now that is Diet Coke and Pizza on my screen.
 
jen




simplyserves -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/13/2007 8:08:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sammiebabygirl
From what I understand, a meta-slave is an absolute slave that has no limits, safe words or say in anything in his or her life.


A meta-slave, based on the way meta is normally used, would be a slave that encompasses the qualities of many slaves.  Or to put it another way, a slave of slaves - though not in the sense of a slave to slaves. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta

Submissive means a person who wants to submit.  It doesn't imply "slave" so it's probably not slavier then the other terms you mention.

A slave, as it's used in the D/s community has little to do with the  historical meaning.  It doesn't describe a degree of submission, it describes a particular mode of behavior.  A slave doesn't even need to be submissive, although that's obviously unlikely, they only need to submit and normally it would necessitate being in a committed power exchange relationship, or being "collared" as is said. Since in this context being a "slave" is consensual it's never needed to be defined very well - no one's looking to emancipate the pervs - but it's certainly the slaviest term, by definition, in your subject line.

A meta-slave doesn't really have any meaning to the community at large, and since we're speaking of an internal lexicon, meta-slave is basically meaningless and not slavey at all.  Although that can change it if gains use.

A no-limits slave however, if that's how you define meta-slave, would by many be considered not slavey or D/s-y since it's out side of the SSC paradigm.  Others would say that it's the only real definition of slave.  I'm afraid the latter has less sense and grounding so I'd say point here goes again to "slave" being more slavey.




slavegirljoy -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/13/2007 8:08:49 PM)

If this is a term you have heard used in your local community, then why not ask the people in your local community what the difference is between slave and "meta-slave"?  Perhaps it is just an upstate NY thing.
 
Sounds to me like "meta-slave" could be the ideal counterpart for "Uber Dom"...........
 
slave joy
Owned property of Master David
quote:

ORIGINAL: sammiebabygirl

meta is not something I heard online. It is used in my local community. Perhaps it is an upstate, NY thing. I had never heard of it either until recently. 
 
jen




Maya2001 -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/13/2007 9:27:24 PM)

LOL  I keep getting told it does not matter whether I refer to myself as sub or slave or whether he does  only thing that matters is whether I will obey




sammiebabygirl -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/13/2007 9:48:07 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy

If this is a term you have heard used in your local community, then why not ask the people in your local community what the difference is between slave and "meta-slave"?  Perhaps it is just an upstate NY thing. 
 


I did. No one responded.
 
jen




daddyncherry -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/13/2007 9:58:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

Silly girl.  Meta slave wears meta-collar.


A meta-tag on a meta-slave collar.....i wonder how that would effect how one came up in search engines (hmmmm)....Would you come up closer to the top of the list...or since it's more slavey....would it make you come up all the way at the bottom?

i want a meta-slave-tag for Xmas.[:)]

and i'm totally being a silly geek right now [:)] Not picking on anyone or being rude to the OP




LittleWench -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/13/2007 11:15:37 PM)

A meta slave would fuck themselves with barbed wire, no?  (just read that barbed wire post and omg)

Those definitions are nothing more than a pissing contest.




slavemaia -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/13/2007 11:21:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

Silly girl.  Meta slave wears meta-collar.

hmmm - but would it set off a meta-collar detector?




BondageSlaveMN -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/13/2007 11:25:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LittleWench

A meta slave would fuck themselves with barbed wire, no?  (just read that barbed wire post and omg)

Those definitions are nothing more than a pissing contest.



Spot on.




Lordandmaster -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/14/2007 12:03:47 AM)

You're sure they're not saying BETA slave, right?

quote:

ORIGINAL: sammiebabygirl

meta is not something I heard online. It is used in my local community. Perhaps it is an upstate, NY thing. I had never heard of it either until recently.




heartcream -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/14/2007 12:22:45 AM)

Okay, so meta-slave is the Ultimate Slave. So if this meta-slave has a really hawt body does that make her meta-physical?




chellekitty -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/14/2007 10:03:31 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

You're sure they're not saying BETA slave, right?

quote:

ORIGINAL: sammiebabygirl

meta is not something I heard online. It is used in my local community. Perhaps it is an upstate, NY thing. I had never heard of it either until recently.



couldn't possibly be a beta slave....that would actually make sense and we would know what it means...besides...that would take all the fun out of this thread....party pooper




sammiebabygirl -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/14/2007 10:42:39 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

You're sure they're not saying BETA slave, right?


I'm positive. I know what a Beta slave is. I have attempted to be one.
 
jen




dragonnette -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/14/2007 10:54:24 AM)

Gotta be careful when you try to post serious stuff around all these twisted pervs!  




littlebitxxx -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/14/2007 10:58:27 AM)

Hmmm.  Well, physical is actual touching.  Meta-physical is touching of the spirits.  To feel something without the actual tactile sense.  (As an aside, being metaphysical puts a whole new spin in cyber sex...lol.)  So a slave would be a physical thing, but a meta-slave?  Would that be an "only in the mind" thing?  A conundrum.

If I were a slave, I think I would like to be a robo-slave.  I have an Inspector Gadget man that I think would love to have a "Go-go-gadget-slave!".  [:D]   As long as I get one of them cool beanies that fly...oh! and a shoe phone...and a can opener thumb...and a...and a......




Prinsexx -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/14/2007 2:42:49 PM)

meta slave
beta slave
lefta slave

and yes when i first posted here i was somewhat serious..........





CuriousLord -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/14/2007 3:01:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sammiebabygirl

What are the differences? Does one term make one slavier than the other?


Of course, terms don't make people a certain way.  If someone says that they're a "slave", but they act like one might consider a "sub", they're a sub, despite their claims to the differ.

We use labels to get ideas across quickly.  Conventionally, I use "slave" as "owned- can't refuse an order in her limits, has relatively few limits, can only get out of an order in limits by removing her collar".  I use "sub" as "guided- takes orders with a pinch of salt, retaining her right to refuse orders.  Typically more limits."

If someone falls in my definition of a "sub", I'll call them that.  If they call in my definition of a "slave", I'll call them that.  I care little what people call themselves beyond what is necessary to recognize and interpret reality.

This said, slaves are typically defined as being more submissive than subs, even though the exact dividing line can be a subject of controversy.  Rather often, a sub or slave perfers the other title and uses without showing regard for the dishonesty involved.  (Not that I'm citing it as morally offensively, but I am saying that people will outright lie, often claiming that the definitions are fake and that nothing they can say is a lie since all the words are meaningless.)




velvetears -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/14/2007 3:49:56 PM)

If you asked the people in your community and no one asnwered you than why do you think it is an upstate NY term? i live in NY and never heard of it. 




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