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sammiebabygirl -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/14/2007 4:55:12 PM)

velvetears,
I have heard the term used by people in my local community, in person, but when I posted to the groups I belong to, asking what the term means, no one responded. So, I brought the question here. It seems no one here has heard of it.
 
My conclusion is that it is a term used up here only.
 
jen



rmanrr -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/14/2007 7:59:24 PM)

Greetings
using fast reply and to no one in general but with tongue firmly in cheek...slave....hmmm...I like evals better....those who know Me better will understand and those who don't, don't.



TemptingNviceSub -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/14/2007 8:17:40 PM)

To the OP..Mega slave???...awww man!!..now I truly feel unworthy...~goes off to self flagellate~(sp)...Tempting



sammiebabygirl -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/14/2007 10:30:08 PM)

Tempting,
It is meta, not mega.
 
Don't worry. I am sure you are plenty worthy, but happy flagellating. [;)]
 
jen



ImpGrrl -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/15/2007 1:32:45 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: WillowRain

I'm imagining a meta-slave as being like a transformer. Slave + as well as a convienient motorbike. Or say Slave + also a powerboat. Think how handy that would be. Let's build one out of spare parts and airplane glue. Let's put the button that makes her/him change somewhere really obvious, like the middle of their forhead. :P


You crack me up.

But I think you knew that. 

See you soon!



Jeffff -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/15/2007 2:16:25 PM)

could a meta slave be happy withanything other than a Meta Dom?


Jeff



sammiebabygirl -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/15/2007 5:36:36 PM)

Jeff,
I only know of one meta Dom. He is meta because "Master say so".
 
jen



sweetstorm -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/15/2007 5:45:23 PM)

All this talk about meta-slave makes me want to be all rebellious and anti-meta-slavish. I'm wanna be a Disney slave. Yeah, that's it. I just look pretty and have perky breasts and gasp at your muscles - OOOOoooooo!!!! [sm=preen.gif]



SilentTigresss -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/15/2007 6:57:00 PM)

Well jen, maybe it is made up. i have never heard of it myself. i am in the mid-west as they say and all i get to be around are "subs" (hate that description), and slaves, and "Gorean" slaves. Hate to say though that the Gorean slaves can be a bit judgemental- NOT saying this about everyone, just the ones i've come across. Please do not crucify me for that.  :)



sammiebabygirl -> I must have had a "Blonde Moment" (12/17/2007 3:30:17 PM)

I finally got some responses from people in my local community and i had the term wrong. It is not meta slave, it is meta consent.
 
So, has anyone heard of this and what is your take on it?
 
jen



CalifChick -> RE: I must have had a "Blonde Moment" (12/17/2007 3:58:25 PM)

The first google hit comes up with a research paper from Schizophrenia Bulletin.  Alrighty then.  Here is the abstract:

Empirical studies of ethical issues, which have increased in number and scope in recent years, may themselves raise both practical and ethical issues. One example of such an issue is the question of who may be legitimately enrolled in studies of decision-making capacity; must all participants in studies of consent capacity have capacity to consent? This question may pose a "Catch-22": For example, if some of the participants in a study of consent capacity are deemed by a particular standard to be incapable of consent. In weighing the risks and benefits of studies of consent capacity, how should reviewers consider the context of actual versus hypothetical trials for which the participant's consent is being sought? Here, we explore these "meta-consent" issues by describing the dimensions of the issue and potential solutions, centering around the concept of "active assent" (requiring expressed understanding of the purpose of the study and its voluntary nature, as well as expression of a choice to participate).


I have a feeling your local group is not using the term in the same way.  Or are they?

Cali



Lordandmaster -> RE: I must have had a "Blonde Moment" (12/17/2007 4:10:03 PM)

Oh THAT explains EVERYTHING.

quote:

ORIGINAL: sammiebabygirl

It is not meta slave, it is meta consent.



SilentTigresss -> RE: I must have had a "Blonde Moment" (12/17/2007 5:35:51 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sammiebabygirl

I finally got some responses from people in my local community and i had the term wrong. It is not meta slave, it is meta consent.
 
So, has anyone heard of this and what is your take on it?
 
jen


Glad you got some response from your community, but what does "meta slave" mean?  Did i miss the defintion up above somewhere?



sammiebabygirl -> RE: I must have had a "Blonde Moment" (12/17/2007 8:03:36 PM)

Just in, a definition and difference between slave and meta slave as explained to me by one who once considered himself a meta slave. 1) as a slave you still have the right of discussion....you know that your Owners word is law but you can still discuss things....as a meta you are likely to just keep your mouth shut <and probably will be trained to> and do as you are told when youre told and how youre told,.which leads to #2 2)state of mind.....as a meta slave you are more likely to gain less satisfaction from tasks as you are doing them out of obligation not love and respect...my own experience also tells me that this breeds depression feelings of disrespect toward the slave and eventually will cause the disintegration of the relationship. jen



SilentTigresss -> RE: I must have had a "Blonde Moment" (12/18/2007 3:46:39 AM)

Hmm, i wonder if you asked him where he got the defintion? 



sammiebabygirl -> RE: I must have had a "Blonde Moment" (12/18/2007 9:01:16 AM)

He said that if you read Gorean books it is explained like that.
 
jen



Rover -> RE: I must have had a "Blonde Moment" (12/18/2007 9:07:40 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sammiebabygirl

He said that if you read Gorean books it is explained like that.
 
jen


Ah.
 
John



KatyLied -> RE: I must have had a "Blonde Moment" (12/18/2007 9:08:27 AM)

quote:

Ah.


::giggle::

Hi John



Rover -> RE: I must have had a "Blonde Moment" (12/18/2007 9:09:22 AM)

Hey, trouble.
 
John



MadRabbit -> RE: submissive, slave, meta-slave... (12/18/2007 10:35:38 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: heartcream

Okay, so meta-slave is the Ultimate Slave.


Don't count all your eggs just yet, bro.

I am sure when a few of the members of the elite "meta-slaves" start to lose their high from their inflated superiority complexs over the "non meta-slaves", they will transcend and pronounce themselves "The Goddesses of the Meta-Slaves" who gave birth to all the "meta-slaves".

At the end of the day, that's all this bottom v.s. submissive v.s slave v.s ninth level tier slave v.s. Old Guard slave v.s. meta-slave v.s ultra super meta-slave transformer v.s. Goddess of the Meta-Slave silliness boils down to.

An "I am better than you because you are just a (Insert Label Here)".



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