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RE: controlling a nympho sub! - 12/25/2007 2:46:56 PM   
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but I also dont want the delicate balance of Master/sub to be upset.
  Well, since you don't have control, it's already been upset, hasn't it?

Yes, she's hinting at playing with others as a means of getting a reaction out of you. In her eyes, every time that you react: you're jealous. She's hoping that eventually your fear of losing her to another Dom will force you to make the committment. So, everytime you react, she's in control. It's the old even bad attention is attention manuever.

If you want to regain control, I would suggest that you stop reacting. Eventually she should stop trying to prod the lion, or she might not get it and need it explained to her.

I'm also going to add that if you're not in an exclusive relationship, she doesn't belong to you. The only thing that belongs to you is the time you have together, which means you're really not in a position to be reacting anyway. If you want control over the time when she's not with you,you're going to have to step up and make the committment.

< Message edited by OsideGirl -- 12/25/2007 3:14:19 PM >


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RE: controlling a nympho sub! - 12/25/2007 10:01:19 PM   
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If I may,
It seems to me that you are courting each other.  You are not exclusive, you are currently negotiating.  She's letting you know what she wants, she's putting it out there and you've said no so far.  So, she can do what she wants.  And so can you.  So others are in the picture.  That is how relationships work... they aren't all or nothing (no matter what the Doms think).  And you said yourself you aren't ready for anything heavy.  So you've gotten BDSM - light.  You know, like coke-light.  Not everything, but something similar. 

you said...
we love sex and we dont want to just have sex with one person. were not quite sure how to work this one out, but my policy with her since her transgression is to let her have her fun, but to have only one Master, me.

Well, what does it mean that you are her Master?  Do you control who she has sex with?  Can she have sex but no bondage?  how bout spankings?  You are talking about a polyamorous relationship which requires a LOOOOOT of communication. 

It sounds actually like what you need to manage isn't HER... It's YOU.  You have said no to being exclusive Sir Dommly Pooh Bah so she goes elsewhere.  How in the world are you justifying punishing her?  You say you both want other lovers and have agreed to that.  But you don't trust her. 

A few phrases come to mind (courtesy of my grandma)
you can't have your cake and eat it too
say what you mean and mean what you say
no means no, yes means yes, and maybe means nothing
if you say you want mashed potatoes, and you get mashed potatoes, don't gripe about wanting french fries.
live in the moment
if she don't have a ring - he can't say a thing
(ya' gotta love my grandma)

oh yeah, and by the way... Maybe, just maybe, she and you aren't right for each other, but you are enjoying the exploration.  If you want her to be all yours, then say it and make her WANT to be all yours.  You're being kind of wishy washy.  Part time is fine - but define it as that... and then you have no right to punish her for what she does away from you unless you two agree on that.  *sniffs the air.... I smell lack of commitment. (which is totally fine as long as it is defined as such).

just my 200 won
peace

didn't realize this was so long.... sigh

< Message edited by sunshinemiss -- 12/25/2007 10:05:18 PM >


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RE: controlling a nympho sub! - 12/28/2007 9:29:29 AM   
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Blummin BRILL grandma!

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RE: controlling a nympho sub! - 12/28/2007 5:26:17 PM   
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rizle,

If you allow her to interact with others, how are you going to address the STD issue.

CP

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RE: controlling a nympho sub! - 12/29/2007 7:20:20 AM   
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Thank you very much... I'll tell her you said so, Mistress Ultimate... She'll be very pleased to know.

peace

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RE: controlling a nympho sub! - 12/29/2007 7:40:00 AM   
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With that kind of person, I'd be inclined to set up situations where they could get their yayas out, but totally under my control and subject to my initiative. Some women have a strong need to be used or shared and the pressure has to be released...carefully.

It's a bad idea to let a female get the idea that she can make you hop by the standard tricks, but on the other hand, it's also a bad idea to be too phlegmatic. Show a little jealousy and possessiveness-women love that. But take the initiative, never react.

Someone above, can't remember who, said "a real dominant would never ask advice on a message board" and then followed this passel of nonsense by claiming that doms seek knowledge. Self-contradict much?? There's nothing wrong with being inexperienced or asking for input. There's also nothing wrong with perving on jealousy, as many people do, despite the slight inherent in the term "cuckhold".



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RE: controlling a nympho sub! - 12/30/2007 9:29:07 AM   
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her age is no excuse for your behavior. 

it seems to me that you are in this for the sex/kink.  if you are a true master/dominant take the role.  it's clear as day to many here that you got topped from bottom.  accept the fact and take action.  if you like her telling you what to do, keep going as you are.  but seeing how you have responded to OldBastard's posts, I see you are rather enjoy being told what to do.  rizzle you should go look up "switch".  I think you would like it.

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RE: controlling a nympho sub! - 12/30/2007 10:22:43 AM   
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GentleandStrict, congrats- youre the first person to ever make my choke on my coffee!
Youre so right! dont you just love OB?!!

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RE: controlling a nympho sub! - 12/30/2007 1:35:24 PM   
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I am thoroughly enjoying his posts.

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RE: controlling a nympho sub! - 12/30/2007 1:47:28 PM   
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Sit her down, have her explain the meaning of the implications:

1) In the event she has been going elsewhere, boot her out - no tolerance; this assumes you expect her to be faithful and she was aware of your requirements in advance. Before you do, humiliate her in public to teach her a lesson.

2) In the eventuality it's a manipulation ploy, set your stall out and explain the consequences of any more that kind of nonsense. Explain that while she may think she's doing herself a favour, she isn't.

If all else fails, tell her you're on good terms with barbed wire man.

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RE: controlling a nympho sub! - 12/30/2007 3:14:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent


1) In the event she has been going elsewhere, boot her out - no tolerance; this assumes you expect her to be faithful and she was aware of your requirements in advance. Before you do, humiliate her in public to teach her a lesson.
 The OP has indicated that he and this submissive are not in an exclusive relationship. So, "no tolerance" doesn't fit this situation.

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RE: controlling a nympho sub! - 12/31/2007 3:35:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

quote:

ORIGINAL: NorthernGent


1) In the event she has been going elsewhere, boot her out - no tolerance; this assumes you expect her to be faithful and she was aware of your requirements in advance. Before you do, humiliate her in public to teach her a lesson.
 The OP has indicated that he and this submissive are not in an exclusive relationship. So, "no tolerance" doesn't fit this situation.


Ah....missed that...must have been in a later post.

Right, rethink.....

Persuade her she needs to get one of her girl friends involved; focus the majority of your attention on the friend........as the implications become more sporadic, refocus your attention towards the nympho. Ensure the other girl knows where she stands in advance.

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RE: controlling a nympho sub! - 1/1/2008 12:34:05 PM   
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This thread is confusing, but I think you're both being manipulative. You're not any less a Dom because you post on a board or have had relationship/trust issues. It's ridiculous to say Doms can't post to ask questions here. They can and they do.

Whether you both want to play with others or not is something you each need to individually figure out and then sit down and share those expectations honestly. Stop playing I do this to get that game and actually TALK like human beings do in a nonrole type of open conversation. In my opinion, you cannot dictate her limits/relationship goals and hope to maintain a healthy relationship, neither can she yours. Then determine a) if you trust her, if you do let the past go b) if her expectations are the same as yours, if they aren't you can't change that by playing games. I have a high sex drive and libido, I also love chocolate chip cookies. I don't expect that I can eat chocolate chip cookies all day every day and have a healthy life. If the only reason she has interest in or you support others is because of her sex drive, you both need to grow up. If she really seeks an open relationship and/or poly that's a totally different thing.

Finally, if she is a submissive, Lead so she can follow.


So very well said. laurell3 is talking about some real fundamentals here for being a successful Dom/Master. I think what I have seen with a lot of younger or less experienced tops is that there is all this focus on the technical capabilities (flogging, caning, shibari, needle play, etc) which is all fine and good for safety's sake and even enjoyment. But there is very little focus on the understanding of how to create a realistic relationship goal that is mutually satisfying (i.e. meeting one another's needs).

You're here looking for advice and I think you got some mixed results. My $.02 to add to what laurell3 has to say is for you to know yourself as well as possible and what you want and get past any embarassment you might have over talking about that with your sub(s). You will never get what you want if you don't. I get a sense that you are concerned that you'll lose this sub if you don't appeal to what she is after - and that may well be true. But you'll also lose her if she can't give you what you need because she'll sense that failure to please you and she'll know (at least subconsciously) that its due to your unwillingness to communicate your deepest needs (in a "Domly" way of course) so that she has a prayer of fulfilling them. As a Dom, you should be prepared to lead this conversation and be very good at asking questions of her and then LISTENING so that you can identify what you are willing to give her. Then you can discuss what you would be willing to do or willing to do instead of what she is asking for. Then, you're setting both of you up to get the needs you have met. And if you aren't both able to reach an agreement on what needs will be me and how - stop wasting your time. Decide to find someone who is a better match for you so you can be truly happy.

S/M in its mechanics are very simple. Swatting a butt with a hairbrush doesn't take much brain power, even to do safely. S/M in its relationship energy/exchange dynamics can be difficult to setup well for a person who needs better understanding of psychology and good communication skills. (everyone thinks they're a "good communicator" just like we all have great taste and a great sense of humor, right?) I think that for the long term, after you've planned the conversation with your sub and prepared the questions you will ask her, get a copy of The New Topping Book. It covers this stuff that is so vital to being a successful top very well by people who have been in the scene for decades.

In case I haven't convinced you its worth a read yet, read my review of the book here: http://www.kinkycrafts.info/bdsmbookreviews/generalbdsmbooks/toppingbookreview/topping.html

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RE: controlling a nympho sub! - 1/1/2008 2:46:48 PM   
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can i just point out that my sub has not "teased" me with seeing other people - although she loves the attention from guys and there are many that want to fuck her. she has basically said to me that i choose who she fucks etc. I know what shes like and dictatiing a purely monogamous relationship to her isnt going to work. and before you jump down my throat, guys, i dont think a purely monogamous relationship would work for me either - which is why i would like to pursue this. sexually, we have similar wants - and we have pretty good time when not having sex as well


Is your sub advertising as a domme here????RFL...it sure sounds like you have similar wants.....according to the profile, it wants females too....and since yours says you want to team up with a domme,. sounds to me like you just need to get your sub, let her put on her domme hat, and yall whupass on a hottie, and then you both will be happy.....or wait, is that not her 21 year old domme profile but yours??? Enquiring minds want to know!!!!!

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