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RE: Is This True? - 7/13/2004 6:07:07 PM

iwillserveu

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Thantosian,

I am not a Democrat. I request you don't insult me again.

OK, you were seguing into MzSuz, but the joke is good.

By the way, Jr. signed the biggest wate of taxpayer money ever. I don't mean anything to to with Iraq. I can't link to the Dave Barry column but a google of "Mohair" might do the trick.

I think not liking the way someone does their jog is a wee bit different than complaing about a BJ.

january,

I reread my posts. I thought the humor was clear. I was using what Thantosian said and whsat you said for a joke. I thought it was clear that the logic was unsound. I apologize if I inadvertatly besmirched your name.

AutumSpell,

Conservatives do. The GOP is not conservative any more. (Since Nixon's 'Southern Strategy'.) The Libertarian Party awaits.

kiki Blue,

Do they have the Raving Looney Monster Party in Australia?

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RE: Is This True? - 7/13/2004 6:42:05 PM

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Hello,

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Conservatives do. The GOP is not conservative any more. (Since Nixon's 'Southern Strategy'.) The Libertarian Party awaits.

There will always be the two party system in the United States and these two parties will always be the Democrat-Republicans and the Whigs!

Wait, umm.

The Democrats and the GOP have a core of fairly stalwart members, but in order to win over elections they have to cater to the central people who are unaffiliated. So as elections go you have two teams basically seeing how middle of the road they can get without losing their core electorates and the fringe elements.

Then you have the Clinton thing, and the Republicans sweep both houses of congress and elect a Republican to be President.

Shrub is more of a neo-conservative than a member of the GOP, and he and his cronies have co-opted the Republican party and are busily doing to the United States what Shrub and his cronies did to Enron, the State of California, Iraq, etc.

I feel rather bad for the GOP. The Republicans in the past could always rely on the Military to vote for them, but this probably will not be the case this next election. They have basically lost faith in the Republicans and feel betrayed by being called up as a reservist and forced to spend year after year on man-day pay in Iraq, with no clear idea when (or if) they will be coming home. I suspect it will be a long time before we see the GOP back in power. Which is not to say I prefer the Democrats (I voted Nader the last two elections, yes, Shrub is my fault.) over the GOP, but I think the GOP is going to merge with the Democrats to fight the rapidly rising ranks of the Green or Libertarian or ? party.

I have posted before that when I was teaching women's self defense in Orange County, we termed that Republican Bastion of Godliness and Moral Fibre the "Incest Capital of North America." I am not sure who first coined the phrase, but I do firmly believe that one does become what one opposes, in direct proportion to the degree one opposes it.

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RE: Is This True? - 7/14/2004 9:36:06 AM

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Master and i are both very liberal people so this isn't true for U/us

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RE: Is This True? - 7/14/2004 10:50:45 AM

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quote:

I am not a Democrat. I request you don't insult me again.

My most sincere and humble apologies, good sir - and, to me, it is a dastardly insult

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RE: Is This True? - 7/14/2004 5:26:55 PM

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Hi, my name is iwillseveu. I haven't voted for a Democratic Presidential Candidate in 12 years.

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RE: Is This True? - 7/14/2004 5:27:03 PM

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Sinergy,

My info is old, but other than Nader the Libertarian won many more offices than Greens.

More old info. The Libertarian Party in Massachusetts grew at double digit rates while the Massachusetts GOP declined at double digit rates. (OK, that is skewed by the sizes of the parties. Budweiser spills more beer than Sam Adams brews but is not more wasteful.) The Libertarians in 2000 in Massachusetts ran for more offices than the GOP. (I told you my information was old.

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RE: Is This True? - 7/14/2004 5:50:21 PM

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Well, I voted for Nader because I really respect what he has done with his political career, not because I am a hard core Green party person.

On the other hand, I will also vote for Jello Biafra (green politician in state legislature for either CA or OR) because I respect what he did in his punk rock career. (Lead singer / songwriter of the Dead Kennedys)

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RE: Is This True? - 7/15/2004 8:46:18 AM

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ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

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There are those who are into kink to cement the traditional values, and in this case I've noticed it is a very Male Dom / female sub dynamic (though I don’t believe all Male Dom/female sub relationships derive from this group). These are more likely to be conservatives.

There are those who are into kink to break down boundaries and simply explore sexuality to the fullest (which, if you haven't guesses already, is the group that I belong to). These are more likely to be libertarians.

Does this make any sense to anyone else?
- LA

It's quite possible that a large population of "kinksters" (for lack of a better word to include everyone) hail from either extreme but I have my doubts that most people are into kink to accomplish much more than fulfill their desires for, well, kink. (that is to intentionally attempt to cement traditional values or to intentionally break boundaries, etc.) While I am a conservative Christian with some pretty traditional views on family, and all that jazz, my main motivation for engaging is that it simply "floats my boat."

All of us are a pretty opinionated bunch, wouldn't you say?

But what I think makes us exceptional is that we are generally well thought out and have reasons for our opinions. We don't form opinions to simply jump on bandwagons. Maybe it is this propensity for giving concepts a lot of thought and consideration that tends to lead us to discover what the more "middle of the road" folks might consider abnormal/strange/objectionable, if they consider it at all.

Generally speaking, I think we are more likely to step outside of our comfort zones and question/consider just about anything and that opens us up to a whole world of opportunity (and not just where kink is concerned

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Thoughts?

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RE: Is This True? - 7/15/2004 10:32:14 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: iwillserveu.
january,
I apologize if I inadvertatly besmirched your name.

Iwill,

I've never been offended by what you say. February is really pissed at you, though.

Anyway, at worst you're silly. Apparently you're right in this case. Topcat posted the shocker that in some states it's legally rape if you have sex with a tied up woman.

So yes, if I was in New York, I would enjoy being "raped" by my husband.

January

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RE: Is This True? - 7/15/2004 5:39:52 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: gapeach
It's quite possible that a large population of "kinksters" (for lack of a better word to include everyone) hail from either extreme but I have my doubts that most people are into kink to accomplish much more than fulfill their desires for, well, kink. - gapeach

True. That is our common ground. And I'm not saying that my original post was the answer. It was sort of something I threw out as a possibility. I still contend that the motivations to be kinky are different from many angles. I was trying to understand the liberal vs conservative difference. Perhaps I'm grasping at straws...

But I see a lot of D/s relationships founded in strong family values, where the Dom very much manages the life of the sub. Then I see the more Top/bottom S&M / Fetishist crowd and I see a difference in the raison d'être. And those aren't the only 2 differences... but they are there. Am I seeing things?

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RE: Is This True? - 7/15/2004 6:24:11 PM

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Jello is alive?

Holiday in Cambodia and Kill the Poor (sarcastic aproval of the neutron bomb, folks) were awesome.

Is he still "Jello" or is he "Frank" or something. "Mister Biafra you have two minutes to rebut Mister Smith," fills me with giggles.

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RE: Is This True? - 7/20/2004 1:01:39 PM

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You can make statistics prove anything you want them to.
I voted for the Canadian party that is made up of bleeding heart social workers, I would have voted for the treehugging green party if a candidate had run in my area.

I am a Shamanic Wiccan, definately NOT conservative except around my grandchildren, my mother, brother, sister and employer.

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RE: Is This True? - 7/20/2004 1:09:15 PM

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quote:

Jello is alive?

Holiday in Cambodia and Kill the Poor (sarcastic aproval of the neutron bomb, folks) were awesome.

Is he still "Jello" or is he "Frank" or something. "Mister Biafra you have two minutes to rebut Mister Smith," fills me with giggles.

Do an internet search for his name, his web site may be jellobiafra.com. He is a political activist who has or holds office, and one of his main political efforts is to legalize marijuana. He is one of the more articulate writers one can find, and despite the fact that he does not use it (neither do I) he is extremely active in trying to legalize it.

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RE: Is This True? - 7/20/2004 1:10:18 PM

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You can make statistics prove anything you want them to.
I voted for the Canadian party that is made up of bleeding heart social workers, I would have voted for the treehugging green party if a candidate had run in my area.

Be of good cheer, in the last election 22000 people voted for Mickey Mouse as a write-in candidate.

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RE: Is This True? - 10/2/2011 6:53:25 PM

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RE: Is This True? - 10/2/2011 7:28:36 PM

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Often, your questions can be answered by doing a search of the archives. Please check the date of a thread and avoid commenting on anything more than 6 months old. If you would like to start a discussion based on a thread more than 6 months old, create a new post and include a link to the old thread. Posts telling people the “right” or “true” way to do things are unwelcome. If you are very knowledgeable about a certain topic, we welcome you to share your experiences, just keep your mind open to other possibilities.

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