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pinkpleasures -> RE: OnlineSafety (8/21/2005 8:40:27 AM)

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Like ~~ if i let my experience of some random man online showing up at my real life house "scare" me forever.. i wouldn't even be here responding to you. Afterall.. you're a man... HECK you could be the same man who came to my house before.. or perhaps you're another man just like that.. and perhaps i should fret about it too much.............. well....... see?? if i let fear like that rule me.. i would miss out on all the cool conversations here on Collarme!

ragdoll


The suggestions given were not for a daily work-out before logging on; they are the tools available to keep reasonably safe on the 'net. Some peple have a high threshold for risk and some don't; a man hacking/stalking/coming to my door is gonna get hurt one way or another. i refuse to be a victim by not walking around naked at night..and by protecting my computer.

pinkpleasures




pinkpleasures -> RE: OnlineSafety (8/21/2005 8:43:33 AM)

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Thank you for the clarification ragdoll lass. Yes I love the outdoors and have spent many, many nights on a full moon on a lonely beach, watching the moon rise and just fealing the life about me... Not bad for fishing too....

IronBear


O, how i miss walking on the ocean shore at night. If that isn't enough to put you in touch with God, i don't know what would. i have never felt such peace.

pinkpleasures




IronBear -> RE: OnlineSafety (8/21/2005 8:49:05 AM)

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O, how i miss walking on the ocean shore at night. If that isn't enough to put you in touch with God, i don't know what would. i have never felt such peace.

pinkpleasures


in the words of some famous person or other: "Hell Yes!"




batty24546 -> RE: OnlineSafety (8/21/2005 11:28:43 AM)

my experince is most people online who are bothering you will run as fast as possible the other direction if you share alittle bit about their personal life. Alot of the time this yonger gerneration spends to much time finding someone to bother that they forget to cover up there tracks. Theres internet hackers, arn't like the ones hacking the white house compters or anything, most are spoiled teens who have nothing better to do with there time. I have enough computer back ground, and if not i have friends who can find them just as easy as they found me. In most cases they don't like being hit with their own medicine or virius.

Although you should still becarefull with personal info, as i could lead to your bank accounts (if you do it online like many people do) Other important infor like bills, credit card numbers and such..... Which to me is a little bit more of a threat.

And for that just keep up with you spy /adwear programes... Don't give out any personal information and all the usual stuff. You can delete you history, and most banking sites don't keep you passwards saved...but you can't be to carefull with that...this is stil the internet. You take some simple precautions when you take money out of an ATM why should this be any diffrent. Its still your money involved, and once they clean you out...thats is your broke. Theres no geting you money back. Just the credit card bills that are pushed to the limits...

Batty




CalliopePurple -> RE: OnlineSafety (8/21/2005 2:06:11 PM)

*Temporarily turns herself into Mad-Eye Moody* Constant vigilance! (if you don't get it, don't ask)

I have Spybot - Search and Destroy ( www.spybot.info is the site, I believe) as my spyware/adware blocker with SpywareBlaster ( http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html ) helping prevent things like tracking cookies. At the most, I have to remove a dozen bits a week. Same applies for when I was on a computer running Windows 98.

My antivirus program is the free version of AVG ( www.grisoft.com ) and even when I was on Windows 98 and ran it, I got viruses about twice a month. If you can afford it, the Pro version is probably even better. The free version is permanent - not a trial thing.

I also use the Windows XP Firewall. Settings for it and all other Windows XP security features can be accessed through Start ---> Control Panel ---> Security Center.




clazike -> RE: OnlineSafety (8/21/2005 7:56:44 PM)

hey guys

right this is a definitive list of what too do too secure you machine. with the exception of using a hardware firewall, this is about it. if you have no interest, please skip.

ok, don't use ZoneAlarm, its got too many faults in it that can be breached easily. I recommend BitDefender, or Kerio Personal Firewall. And try and read the manual, set it up properly. Else there is little point having it. When you get notices come up, read them - don't just ignore them. And, don't install 2 firewall, they confuse each other (this means switching off the one XP SP 2 as well). This will keep the naster buggers out.

With regards to Adware/spyware etc - Microsoft are pumping a huge ammount of cash into there new Spyware software, and its free to all legal users of windows. You can never go wrong with buying a couple of items of alternative spyware software as well along with the microsoft solution. Some know a lot of bits and pieces that others just do not know. Also make sure you update the new programs everyday (or two).

Virus software. Don't use Norton. This bit of crap has been pretty much dumps by the IT industry, for being utterly worse that most other virus checkers. Some of the popular and well supported programs are Bitdefender and Kaspersky. Just avoid McAfee and Norton. Also, make sure you update the software every day.

With both the updates you can usually set this to happen automatically in the software. Keeping Updates in mind, keep an eye on Windows Update for security patchs and updates for windows. MS Windows has so many problems with security, new things are always being found.

With regards to receiving files. Usually the Virus checker will automatically pick up any virus as soon as it is recorded on the harddisk, but make sure you don't open, any files ending with .bat .exe .src or .com ... any image, movie or sound file will not end with this.

Also, remember that banks, and sites you might have subscribed too wil never ask you in an email or a popup for you bank details, personal details or login details. They already have them, and even if not they would ask you by mail.

And last but not least, be careful in internet cafe's. Software can be installed on the machines that records everything you type... even if there is a little padlock in the corder of your screen.

Hope this covers a lot of these details guys, and any questions - let me know.

Claz




cmatrix4761 -> RE: OnlineSafety (8/22/2005 2:45:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: pinkpleasures

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Alot of ppl don't realize this, but u can set the security levels of IE (especially in XP SP 2).

cmatrix4761


How is this done, Sir?

pinkpleasures



Tools->Internet Options->Security->Custom Level; you can turn on and off alot of risky behavior from that window.

-- CM




MemphisDsCouple -> RE: OnlineSafety (8/22/2005 5:42:35 AM)

I haven't read every message in this thread so if there is repetition in my message, I accept the responsibility and hope the reader will be patient.

That said, in the messages I did speed read no one pointed out:

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ORIGINAL: pinkpleasures

Never accept a file through a Yahoo IM; this is how my hacker "got in". Tell people to email you the item.


Email does not shield you from downloading a virus, a worm or a hack. The OP got hacked because she dl'd a file. The results would have been the same had she dl'd a file attached to an email. The only cure is to not dl files. Even files from people you know and trust are not necessarily safe.

This is the way most of the worms that you read about in the news attack computers all around the world. They email themselves from one person to another person who is on the email list of the first person. Since the second person knows the first person they don't think there is anything harmful in the attachment but when the second person dl's the attachment they get/install the computer virus. So basically to be safe from this threat you just don't dl files.

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ORIGINAL: pinkpleasures

Do not send email from your personal account to a collarme member. Collarme email is perfectly adequate.


I do not find this to be the case.

1. CM has lost emails. I only found out when people said why didn't you respond, or I said why didn't you respond.

2. CM's emails don't quote prior text from the email you're writing back about so it's sometimes difficult to keep a running conversation going.

3. Just generally, a regular email site/client is going to be more reliable and be more user friendly.

4. I've been invited to chat here on cm and their chat rooms are just as primitive, bare-bones and unuserfriendly as the email function.

5. By contrast, other pm programs are intuitive, user friendly and widely accepted and used.

You don't get hacked by exchanging emails or using a chat program just for chatting. You get hacked by downloading files (the kind of hacking you're talking about).

So, if I'm talking to someone I'm not going to want to do much of that on cm. I'm going to want to move to a more user friendly environment. If she doesn't want to follow.... shrug....

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ORIGINAL: pinkpleasures

Take a look at your Yahoo Personals profile and remove any information which is too personal; such as your real name. i am not sure how but it seems some people on collarme can find your Yahoo profile even though the nicks are different.


I'd go a little further and say that it is naive, that it is setting yourself up for junk mail, telemarketing, spam and is just generally not at all private to give accurate information online when you sign up for *anything*. Just don't do it. Just make stuff up, don't give facts. The only exception being if you're buying something.





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