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RE: Meeting Sir - 12/17/2007 7:34:11 AM   
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okay, here's the deal. your concern is understandable.

if you feel it best if you have a cell phone keep it on you.keep in contact with a friend(good friend who knows where you will be going,when you will be there ectera.

yes there is potential for any kind of situation.

as a friend of mine told me before leaving Seattle to come to Pa,"if i did not talk to Him(my Lord) and talked to you i would not be comfortable in letting you go". we had not met face to face before.my Lord and His wife made the choice to bring me out when they did instead of waiting until later.it was a risk but we took it and all is well,very well in fact. we met for the first time at the airport when He picked me up to ride in His car for another 2 hours to come to His house.(3,000 miles from all i knew).

just take precautions that's all. before now has there been any contact than other than online?

anything is possible good or bad,if you don't feel right or ready to do this than let Him know.

beofre coming here we had several conversations on the phone,He has sent me snail mail on a couple of occassions and i had His phone number for work and His home,photos, the whole 9.

out of all of that , i was not frightened outof my wits about it.my close friends felt comfortable about my leaving and so did/do i.

what made it so interesting was that my Lord and His wife were more scared about wether i would actually get on the plane to come here.they've had one before who would come half way and that was it on several occassions until they finally called it all off.so they were weary if i would actually come.

but as it's been said,sometimes there are bad situations and sometimes there are good situations,make your own judgement call on this,if it doesn't feel right don't go.

if he wants this as you do he will understand where you are coming from.



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RE: Meeting Sir - 12/17/2007 8:36:45 AM   
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Well, unless you have real experience with cases this, I don't see how you can make such judgments.  Sounds like a pair of preconceived notions to me--and questionable ones at that.  From what I've seen, most law-enforcement agencies are pretty eager to pursue internet-related crime.


LAM,
actually i do have real experience in this case.....And sadly, the law enforcement officials in the area i was in wanted nothing to do with touching this case.....Despite the fact that I was not even his first victim....
Kali

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RE: Meeting Sir - 12/17/2007 8:53:08 AM   
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be it i am not trying to say that every meeting from online goes well or goes bad.
it's all a basic judgement call.

for those who do not attend munches,go to bars,nightclubs or seek out local stores and such that have postings and people to talk to sometimes we have to come online and meet others that way.

my Lord and His wife could have taken lots of things from my past and considered it as something against me.for example they know/knew form the start that i am a recovering durg addict.they could have used the typlical conclusion that is raised with that,that i could have been a potential threat to them and their household.

that's like saying everyone online is a predator.i have met many of my closest friends(now of whom i know in person) online and i did meet one Master online that was a bad experience.but i am not going to let one incident deter me form looking for what i needed to look for.

everyone takes chances with their lives walking down the street.

concerns are a good thing to have. if one does not feel right or comfortable with a meeting situation get someone to go with or call it off,or if they do go,have a contact that is checked in with frequently.

all i am saying is this,if we fear every thing in life we can miss out on some great opprotunities,Just use caution.



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RE: Meeting Sir - 12/17/2007 11:14:58 AM   
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Just a quick thought, going off of my past experience, it might be wise for You to verify His name is actually the one You are given....

Kali

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RE: Meeting Sir - 12/17/2007 8:04:39 PM   
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Kali, although I really do appreciate your concern, please understand He is not pushing me into anything. We've been doing the onine thing for a while now. I think it's time for us to meet, just the fact that it's in his "turf" makes me nervous. Again, thank you for your support. I am a newbie and these forums are my bible


How could the forums be your bible?  How do you pick who to agree with?  We don't know what's going on with most of these people that ask questions, while I think they are a source of information and exploration, a bible is a stretch really.

I would really consider the public meeting and see how it goes.  Although you've been online for awhile, people lie or turn out to be much different in person when emotion and attraction are added into the mix.

Be careful!
l


When I said it was my bible, I waas trying to be funny, considering I am a historian and consider that book a piece of history. I didn't expect it to be taken in any other sense. I do use it as a way to inform myself and get all sorts of answers to my questions, the one posted here is one I hadn't seen posted before ( I haven't been here long).
Thus, I do read all of people's thoughts although my decisions or answers I come up with might not be the same as ones posted before (maybe I should post most often).
Anyway, I met Sir! I was great, He is great. I thank you for your support. And thank all those that understood this wasn't me going to meet some random dude I'd been talking for two days. Thank you all!
Be safe...

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RE: Meeting Sir - 12/17/2007 8:09:30 PM   
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I meant It (meeting Him) was great. Not I, hehe, sorry (giggles, blushes)

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RE: Meeting Sir - 12/17/2007 8:14:15 PM   
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So where did you meet?  And was there any action?
(Sorry, inquiring minds want to know.)

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RE: Meeting Sir - 12/17/2007 8:16:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: secretagentgirl

So where did you meet?  And was there any action?
(Sorry, inquiring minds want to know.)



(nod)  It's really rare that someone actually comes back and tells us what happened or how the advice was taken....tell us!  

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RE: Meeting Sir - 12/18/2007 7:50:42 PM   
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I will ask His permission to satisfy your inquiring minds secret and laurel

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RE: Meeting Sir - 12/18/2007 7:59:08 PM   
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I will ask His permission to satisfy your inquiring minds secret and laurel


haha I wasn't suggesting you tell us the dirty details, just the general meeting, where, how you felt, etc....it's ok...you don't have to

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RE: Meeting Sir - 12/18/2007 8:26:42 PM   
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LOL see I told you, the meeting was just a formality, they were already going to get it on and get into an authority dynamic without any in person relationship building.

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RE: Meeting Sir - 12/18/2007 11:18:29 PM   
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 Add me to the list of inquiring minds please!  hums ths jeapardy tune.....


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RE: Meeting Sir - 12/19/2007 1:19:16 AM   
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http://www.collarchat.com/m_1348031/mpage_7/key_/tm.htm#1380910

check out Darthtellectual's response... It is full of wisdom...
In fact, it's so good, I'm copying it here (with respect)

After a few e-mails, I move to phone calls and then to a meet in a nice public place for coffee and smoke. Only after the third such meeting am I confident enough to allow some strange sub (who is no longer  a stranger)  into my  home  for  an  evening  of  whatever it is that we agreed upon.
Some don't get it. Some ask why it takes so long to get things started. Some don't e-, call or show up. That's fine with me too. Dedication and communication are in my top ten list of things to possess if you want to safely play. Otherwise, al sorts of potential problems arise.

 
It's about the wannabe's but I love his structure.... It is great!  It was the part where he said "some strange sub (who is no longer a stranger)" that got me.  Would you meet a strange man NOT in the scene at his house?   Of course not!!!

Now, Darthtellectual's guidelines may not be YOUR cup of tea, but to have some boundaries is really smart.  I have set up some guidelines like it for myself after reading that including things like travel (cause I live farrrrrrrrr from most Doms). 

As for rules for meeting people in public... what would be your rules for your daughter or sister or best friend for meeting any stranger?  When you answer that, you have your answer... smiles

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RE: Meeting Sir - 12/31/2007 11:42:59 AM   
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Well, I hate to spoil the safety party, but...
I met my Dom two years ago and proceeded with a three-day suitcase directly to his home where I stayed for those three days.
Not only did he not kill me with a dull, rusty axe, but we are now happily married.

Yes, I had a friend call me at an appointed time (Okay I forgot she was in a different time zone and the call was actually an hour late, but she did call, and continue to call until I told her to STOP IT) and I did have his name, address and telephone number.

But more importantly, I had peace of mind and a calm feeling in my gut because I was satisfied with the degree to which I had gotten to know him online and on the telephone is the weeks prior to our meeting.

I would venture to say that most people who end up in bad situations do so after having ignored their gut about entering said situation at least once. When people pay attention and really follow their intuition (which assumes that people are attending to this sense before the situation arises, as in every day of their lives), it is my belief that they are less likely to be taken by surprise by the bad guys. Not saying its 100 percent, but it's a huge part of making good choices.
Just my opinion, based on my experience.
Glad to hear the meeting went well!
H



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RE: Meeting Sir - 12/31/2007 5:07:59 PM   
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Not only did he not kill me with a dull, rusty axe, but we are now happily married.


 
And I am so happy for you....

But you know, people are more often killed by their spouses than by a stranger with a rusty axe

(just ribbing you)

Happy New Year Heather

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RE: Meeting Sir - 12/31/2007 6:16:05 PM   
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Well, I hate to spoil the safety party, but...
I met my Dom two years ago and proceeded with a three-day suitcase directly to his home where I stayed for those three days.
Not only did he not kill me with a dull, rusty axe, but we are now happily married.

Yes, I had a friend call me at an appointed time (Okay I forgot she was in a different time zone and the call was actually an hour late, but she did call, and continue to call until I told her to STOP IT) and I did have his name, address and telephone number.

But more importantly, I had peace of mind and a calm feeling in my gut because I was satisfied with the degree to which I had gotten to know him online and on the telephone is the weeks prior to our meeting.

I would venture to say that most people who end up in bad situations do so after having ignored their gut about entering said situation at least once. When people pay attention and really follow their intuition (which assumes that people are attending to this sense before the situation arises, as in every day of their lives), it is my belief that they are less likely to be taken by surprise by the bad guys. Not saying its 100 percent, but it's a huge part of making good choices.
Just my opinion, based on my experience.
Glad to hear the meeting went well!
H




Yep;

The only two I have met I did in the same way. We had talked so long on the phone and online, and also, these were people whose names you could google and come up with thousands of (professional) hits, so, I did not have much compunction regarding meeting them.

I agree you must be careful, but not necessarily paranoid.

I have to say that I am very concerned about the advice I am giving as I don't want it to be taken as an 'all clear'. Rather, I'd want others to understand that it doesn't always have to be coffee shops and libraries for first meets. My first meet with my Cali Master was Him picking me up at the airport. My first meeting with Master was Him meeting me in my home town, lunch, and a piercing session.

I wish you the best!

~Christina

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RE: Meeting Sir - 12/31/2007 6:53:43 PM   
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I'm not her but yup I would and have many times in the past and not so far past.

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If you were dating a vanilla man, would you go to his house for the first date having NEVER met him before?


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RE: Meeting Sir - 12/31/2007 9:03:42 PM   
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Sounds like a bit of not so subtle blackmail to me.  "meet me on my terms or not at all"
Just for that, I would discontinue chatting.  Passive agressive shit does not appeal to me at all.
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ORIGINAL: lilredny

Thank you all so very much. I am talking to him about it and he doesn't want us to meet if I have ANY doubts. I really want to meet him though...very confused indeed.


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RE: Meeting Sir - 1/1/2008 12:16:52 PM   
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umm, i wouldn't go to someone's house on a first meeting now. He may have something planned in store for you that your unaware of.It should also raise red flags, in my mind at least. i have had this request before i met my Dom. And i talked it over with some close friends and all said that that could be a bad sign and if he isn't willing to meet in public, call it off.
If you can, ask if you can meet him in a public place like a restaurant, shopping mall, coffee bar, etc. If he makes excuses as to why he can only meet at his place, call it off.
Best of luck and be safe

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RE: Meeting Sir - 1/1/2008 11:47:43 PM   
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lilredny:
Gee......sounds like it turned out well.....great! So I hope it continues!
Good luck to BOTH of you!

BossBob

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