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RE: Being owned - 12/17/2007 8:51:00 PM   
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I have trouble getting my head around the concept of ownership.  When I was married before my ex was controlling and jealous and I felt like I was owned and not in a good way  so to me being owned has bad connotations. 

I identify as a submissive.  I can't ever see myself as a slave simply because I'm not prepared to give over that much control.  No matter that Sir is nothing like my ex, and I know He loves and cares for me and would never do anything to damage me either physically or emotionally.  It's one of those "walls" that maybe will never come down.  




There's nothing wrong with where you are Rayne.  Embrace who you are today and enjoy it.  If it's going to happen it will.  Be who you are not who other people say you should be.



Thanks laurell  My journey has been relatively short (4 years). I am amazed at how far I have come in that small amount of time.  Thst first marriage was long (over 20 years) and the remnants of it still affect me in not so good ways. 
Believe me, Sir and I are enjoying our lives together a lot


Glad to hear it and you're welcome.

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RE: Being owned - 12/17/2007 9:25:29 PM   
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Especially, the way he treats me. has anyone had this happen to them that they feel so much more alive and Owned and all that good stuff because they have become property? Thanks

Yup.  And then I felt so much more alive and myself and all that good stuff because I became a switch and got involved with my switch partner in a vanilla relationship.

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RE: Being owned - 12/17/2007 9:34:25 PM   
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i don't feel more alive, since becoming the property of my Master but, i certainly feel more content and fulfilled and at home with myself.  In fact, the reason my other D/s relationships didn't flourish and last was because i didn't feel that i was where i truly belonged in this world  i knew that i wasn't made to be the submissive girlfriend or wife.  That always felt incomplete, to me.  i needed to be a Man's property.  That was why i actively sought out a Master who wanted to own a slave for a 24/7 TPE relationship.  i found Him and i am now more comfortable and at peace, as His property, than i have ever dreamed i could be.  It's not the difference in what i am called.  It's the difference in how i am treated and how that makes me feel.  There is no way that i ever want to be unowned again.
 
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i had always thought of myself as a sub and not a slave or property. My Owner started me off slowly  since he is my first realtime Owner/Master). Now i am his property and i feel so much more fullfilled than i ever did in the role of being submissive. i didn't realize how wonderful it could be to be his property. Especially, the way he treats me. has anyone had this happen to them that they feel so much more alive and Owned and all that good stuff because they have become property? Thanks

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RE: Being owned - 12/17/2007 9:51:33 PM   
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I think it is wonderful when people find the type of relationship that fulfills them no matter how they label it.. for you calling it "ownership" defines what you are feeling inside, which is a sense of fulfillment. Others do not need the label to describe how they feel about their mate... It is all good!

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RE: Being owned - 12/17/2007 10:01:37 PM   
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I'm really glad you've found your happy place, that is really beautiful and exciting.

I do want to mention though, when I see threads like this and some of the submissives here who seem to feel pressure to progress towards being a slave, this mindset bothers me.  My submission comes from a place of freedom.  I don't see sub to slave as a continuum, or a track.  They can be completely different animals, different tracks.  Not that some submissives might not find their happiness progressing towards and into becoming a slave, but I want to put the other perspective out there that it doesn't have to be this way.  At first I almost felt inferior because I had no desire to be a slave, or owned property, and I don't want others to put themselves through that.  But to all those who find their happiness in that, I'm really glad for them and that they had the strength to seek out and find that which fulfills them.




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RE: Being owned - 12/17/2007 11:27:15 PM   
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*smiles* I will say that laurell's and Tigrita's posts have made me feel a lot more confident with who and what I am.  It does get confusing sometimes reading about other people and sometimes I would feel a bit inadequate  However Sir says He is more than happy with me  and that is what really matters most

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RE: Being owned - 12/18/2007 4:30:19 AM   
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"Thy eternal summer shall not fade"

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Yes, there seems to be some smugness.  And I wonder why it's necessary.  I think someone in a fulfilling relationship would be anything but smug.  When I am happy it shows, but I don't go around announcing it to everyone.




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RE: Being owned - 12/18/2007 4:41:41 AM   
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i'm more than just owned.  i'm loved as well cherished as His daughter ...not too many women fit Daddy's specifications before finding me.  being His property is quite an honor.


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RE: Being owned - 12/18/2007 6:14:36 AM   
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It's so true and like you i didn't have the desire to become a slave or property because everything i read was so negative about it in my opinion. Which leads me to the saying "Don't believe everything you read. :)

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RE: Being owned - 12/18/2007 6:33:06 AM   
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me either. i can't imagine ever being unowned again. WOW! Some of you have shared some great insight with me thank you so very much for that.

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RE: Being owned - 12/18/2007 7:55:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

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"Thy eternal summer shall not fade"

- Shakespeare

Yes, there seems to be some smugness.  And I wonder why it's necessary.  I think someone in a fulfilling relationship would be anything but smug.  When I am happy it shows, but I don't go around announcing it to everyone.





I know, I am amazed that others are buying into this attention seeking. There should be a new section of collarme just for those who are newly owned to crow about how "special" they now think they are now that some guy found them.

Strangely, I am happy with myself with or without a partner, I happen to not need someone to define my existence, nor do I feel the need to announce how happy I am to everyone. Being gracious is a nice quality to have.

It is funny how the many, many successful and happy couples here there and everywhere don't constantly post about how "thrilled" they are to be in a relationship every day.

It is getting as bad as those posts that say, Why can't I find someone.

Does the OP honestly think we are hanging on her every word about how happy she is in her relationship? Should I post everytime I have a good day or bad day?

Maybe it's me and you Katylied, I guess we are just bitter as the OP said. Or just more self aware and centered?

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RE: Being owned - 12/18/2007 8:00:51 AM   
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RE: Being owned - 12/18/2007 8:04:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: takenbyjohnr07

i had always thought of myself as a sub and not a slave or property. My Owner started me off slowly  since he is my first realtime Owner/Master). Now i am his property and i feel so much more fullfilled than i ever did in the role of being submissive. i didn't realize how wonderful it could be to be his property. Especially, the way he treats me. has anyone had this happen to them that they feel so much more alive and Owned and all that good stuff because they have become property? Thanks


Ah, my first chance to use the latest gem I found. I think it fits perfectly here.

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Part of the confusion, I think comes from the fact that for many of us, (not all) are more committed to this type of relationship because it fulfills us, and satisfies us like no vanilla relationship would. Because we value it more, we work harder at it. Then we say “Wow, these D/s relationships are…” Harder, deeper, etc. The reality is that we choose to work harder, communicate better, develop more trust.


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RE: Being owned - 12/18/2007 8:19:44 AM   
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Maybe it's me and you Katylied, I guess we are just bitter as the OP said. Or just more self aware and centered?


Nah ... it's not just you and Katylied - you're just more ballsy about sharing your opinion.  Count me in as bitter! 



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RE: Being owned - 12/18/2007 8:23:50 AM   
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Count me in as bitter! 


Are you also sweet and tangy?  




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RE: Being owned - 12/18/2007 9:00:44 AM   
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Count me in as bitter! 


Are you also sweet and tangy?  





lol... depends on the day. 

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RE: Being owned - 12/18/2007 9:09:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: takenbyjohnr07

i had always thought of myself as a sub and not a slave or property. My Owner started me off slowly  since he is my first realtime Owner/Master). Now i am his property and i feel so much more fullfilled than i ever did in the role of being submissive. i didn't realize how wonderful it could be to be his property. Especially, the way he treats me. has anyone had this happen to them that they feel so much more alive and Owned and all that good stuff because they have become property? Thanks


I am assuming that your master defines you as property?  Does he define you as a slave and not a submissive? (I ask because you define yourself as a submissive in your profile)
When ownership occurs, for me personally, it's not about the names and label we give ourselves - it's how we are within our relationships that are of importance.  I do get that some people don't feel fulfilled until they are owned(I cannot comprehend it - but get it), but it isn't the status that makes me feel wonderful or comfortable, it's him.
 
the.dark.


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RE: Being owned - 12/18/2007 9:22:02 AM   
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It is funny how the many, many successful and happy couples here there and everywhere don't constantly post about how "thrilled" they are to be in a relationship every day.

It is getting as bad as those posts that say, Why can't I find someone.

Does the OP honestly think we are hanging on her every word about how happy she is in her relationship? Should I post everytime I have a good day or bad day?

Maybe it's me and you Katylied, I guess we are just bitter as the OP said. Or just more self aware and centered?


ya know...at times like these...i go with what my granny used to tell me.

"its all just a fart in the wind, cheryl".

my name isnt cheryl.  that's one of the cousins. 

kitten

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RE: Being owned - 12/18/2007 9:36:58 AM   
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Hi, it's always a pleasure to hear from you. i think in the orientation choices there was only sub,issive to choose from, so i have to check that out. If not i'll change it.

When we first started he told me that eventually i would become his property and he explained to me his version of what that meant to him. Since i had no real time experience i decided to give it a try. He does not refer to me as a slave.

Yes, it is definitely all him. It just that when you're writing on a forum sometimes you have to use labels and such so that you can explain the situation better and give people an idea of what type of relationship you're in. i will now check out my profile and see if i need to make any changes.Once again it is always a pleasure to hear from you.

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RE: Being owned - 12/18/2007 9:40:36 AM   
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Hi, it's me again. Yes, my only other choice was slave so i put it in the body of the profile that i am his property. i knew it was there somewhere. :)

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