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RE: Being owned - 12/20/2007 9:34:39 AM   
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Thank you for those beautiful and thoughtful words. It warms my heart.  You are a true lady and i wish you the happiest of the new year and all the good it will bring to you and your family.

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RE: Being owned - 12/20/2007 10:33:37 AM   
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I do detect the smell of my-label- is-better-than-yours...all you lowly submissives, Daddy's girls, bottoms, pain sluts, masochists, etc etc...

Be happy.....but seriously, OP...  your relationship has no more or less magic or intensity or realness or love or supreme-BDSM-ness than anyone else's.  It's simply evolved as a relationship does when it's moving toward being a real _______________ (whatever label you wish to toss upon it). 
i don't detect any "my-label- is-better-than-yours..." in this post.  Nowhere does it say, i feel so much more fulfilled than "...all you lowly submissives, Daddy's girls, bottoms, pain sluts, masochists, etc etc..."  It clearly says that " i feel so much more fullfilled than i ever did...".  What's wrong with that? 

 
It could easily have been posted in the "Positive Experiences" forum but, there is also the question asked, "has anyone had this happen to them...." and, i think, that is a reasonable topic for "General BDSM" discussion.  i also don't hear any smugness in this post.  Where, in the OP, does it say that the relationship is in any way more intense, more magical, more real or more anything than what anyone else has?  i didn't read that.
 
Maybe, it's just me.  Maybe, i tend to give people the benefit of believing that they are sincere in what they write.  But, i really don't get all the negativity in this thread about what was written in the OP.  Is it just because it isn't a negative, complaining, "oh woe is me", angry, rant type of post?  Should there be a "Warning Label" at the top of all positive posts?
 
Just because someone has made a discovery about themself, through a change in their relationship, and it's a positive experience, and they feel awakened to a part of their identity they didn't know existed before and they are curious about whether this sort of thing has happened to anyone else, why does that automatically mean that the person is being "smug" or expressing some sort of "superiority" over anyone else?  Anyone care to help me understand this?  Because, i really just don't get it, at all. 
 
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joy, the only way we could help you "get" it, is to have you waste your no doubt precious time in reading past posts of the OP, which is how all this started. You may have missed the part where the OP ranted about how, if subs were more "subblier" they would not be lonely and bitter and would have found a partner as the OP has done.

You may have missed the part where the OP told posters not to post negative replies to her multiple threads, which is against the TOC. You may have missed all of this.

I have said time and time again here, there and everywhere; it is not what is being said, but HOW it is said. Everyone is happy for those who are happy, it is a natural thing to want to share happiness with others. But certain people try to raise their own worth (in their own minds) by back handedly tossing around labels as "I am more of a sub than you, my Dom is more true than yours) etc.

And that is what is irksome and that is what invites the slings and arrows and barbs of the posts you have read.

Notice, no one ever flames you, joy and you are always sharing your happiness. Why? Because you don't compare your relationship with anyone else's nor do you tear down other's to make your own relationship more important.

Context is the name of the game in posting on forums.

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RE: Being owned - 12/20/2007 10:56:59 AM   
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P.S. So katy, have you done it in the shower yet??


I will NOT be assimilated.


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RE: Being owned - 12/20/2007 11:05:50 AM   
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P.S. So katy, have you done it in the shower yet??


I will NOT be assimilated.



LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: Being owned - 12/20/2007 11:21:14 AM   
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LMFAO! Oh come on, you can pick your own number in the ''collective.''

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RE: Being owned - 12/20/2007 11:26:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

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P.S. So katy, have you done it in the shower yet??


I will NOT be assimilated.



Personally, I love being "ass" imilated, day and night....

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RE: Being owned - 12/20/2007 11:28:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: EvilGenie

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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

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*smiles* I will say that laurell's and Tigrita's posts have made me feel a lot more confident with who and what I am.  It does get confusing sometimes reading about other people and sometimes I would feel a bit inadequate  However Sir says He is more than happy with me  and that is what really matters most


This is what really gets my rabbit tail in a knot when we get into these discussions about labels and what, in my probably overly cynical opinion, the vast majority of all this hooh-ha boils down to.

I'm so much more special/better because I am a slave/submissive/property/daughter/puppy.

While this isnt directed towards the OP since she simply made the simple mistake of poorly expressing her own feelings towards her own relationship, its still pretty much the road this thread went down.

In the end, its like a bunch of people trying to determine some kind of universal value judgement on whether an apple, an orange, a pear, or a pomegrande tastes the best.

In the end, the fullfillment and personal joy someone might feel as the treasured property of an Owner is no more less than someone might feel as a loving wife to a husband or a prized daughter of a Daddy.
 

sexyred and katy I have never found to be offensive though push anyone and one may not like what they receive.

Best,

EG


ok, EG, you are pretty cool; you can join the darkside now with us.

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RE: Being owned - 12/20/2007 11:28:55 AM   
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Yeah, well you are probably the sort of whore who pees in the shower too....







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RE: Being owned - 12/20/2007 11:30:20 AM   
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Hey! That is MetaWhore to you and no, I cannot pee in the shower because my cat inexplicably likes to lie on the bathub floor and lick it.

So there!!

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RE: Being owned - 12/20/2007 11:31:52 AM   
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I think I'm in lust......

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RE: Being owned - 12/20/2007 11:33:47 AM   
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yeah, yeah, talk is cheap...show me.

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RE: Being owned - 12/20/2007 11:40:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

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ORIGINAL: EvilGenie

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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

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ORIGINAL: Rayne58

*smiles* I will say that laurell's and Tigrita's posts have made me feel a lot more confident with who and what I am.  It does get confusing sometimes reading about other people and sometimes I would feel a bit inadequate  However Sir says He is more than happy with me  and that is what really matters most


This is what really gets my rabbit tail in a knot when we get into these discussions about labels and what, in my probably overly cynical opinion, the vast majority of all this hooh-ha boils down to.

I'm so much more special/better because I am a slave/submissive/property/daughter/puppy.

While this isnt directed towards the OP since she simply made the simple mistake of poorly expressing her own feelings towards her own relationship, its still pretty much the road this thread went down.

In the end, its like a bunch of people trying to determine some kind of universal value judgement on whether an apple, an orange, a pear, or a pomegrande tastes the best.

In the end, the fullfillment and personal joy someone might feel as the treasured property of an Owner is no more less than someone might feel as a loving wife to a husband or a prized daughter of a Daddy.
 

sexyred and katy I have never found to be offensive though push anyone and one may not like what they receive.

Best,

EG


ok, EG, you are pretty cool; you can join the darkside now with us.


Is now a certified, or is that certifiable, member of the dark side. See? I'm not so bad afterall and if others noticed my comments more often in threads I wouldn't be seen as they would like to describe me.

Oh and I pee in the shower, that is known. However, I will not discuss what I did in my boyfriends mother's screen house one summer in high school!

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RE: Being owned - 12/20/2007 11:44:35 AM   
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Drops a bar of soap to see who I can assimilate.

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RE: Being owned - 12/20/2007 11:51:21 AM   
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Oh and I pee in the shower, that is known. However, I will not discuss what I did in my boyfriends mother's screen house one summer in high school!


Uh uh...if you want to be a really cool girl you must share!!

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RE: Being owned - 12/20/2007 11:54:20 AM   
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Nuh uh, it is naaaasty!  Cool is ok, I can live with that. I don't have to be really cool. Besides, this wasn't cool it was really bad.

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RE: Being owned - 12/20/2007 4:53:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: takenbyjohnr07

i had always thought of myself as a sub and not a slave or property. My Owner started me off slowly  since he is my first realtime Owner/Master). Now i am his property and i feel so much more fullfilled than i ever did in the role of being submissive. i didn't realize how wonderful it could be to be his property. Especially, the way he treats me. has anyone had this happen to them that they feel so much more alive and Owned and all that good stuff because they have become property? Thanks
I was pretty alive and fullfilled when we met, I suppose that was the attraction.    If I took the attitude that my life was nothing before I met him and god forbid something happened my world would simply fall apart.    Our relationship just makes life a little better.   It's like winning a grand on a scratch off ticket when you don't really need it.  

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RE: Being owned - 12/20/2007 7:17:32 PM   
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joy, the only way we could help you "get" it, is to have you waste your no doubt precious time in reading past posts of the OP, which is how all this started.
Nah, i won't waste my time, neither the precious kind nor the plain, old, worthless variety, on digging up past posts.  i just take each post on it's own merit and don't try to read anything into it.  i don't get into all the 'history' that might be here.
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Notice, no one ever flames you, joy and you are always sharing your happiness.
i think it has happened to me a few times, if "flaming" refers to a personal attack or something like that.  i'm not really sure and don't really care.  Sometimes (well, probably a lot of times) my passion and emotions can get a bit carried away when i'm writing and, i write what i feel and i know i have rubbed some people the wrong way.  That's bound to happen and it's okay.  Everyone's entitled to their own opinion and i know that when i post on a public forum, like this, i'm opening myself up to criticsm.  It comes with the territory.  It's not anything i'm going to lose sleep over.
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Why? Because you don't compare your relationship with anyone else's nor do you tear down other's to make your own relationship more important.
You're right about that.  i have never understood why people bother comparing themself or their relationship to anyone else.  i realize that "Keeping Up With the Joneses" has become "Surpassing the Joneses and Leaving Them in the Dust" and it seems to have become something of a National Pastime but, it just doesn't make sense to me.  Life is too short to waste it trying to 'be better than so and so' or, 'have more of this or that than someone else'. 
 
i have what i need and i like what i have and like spending my time enjoying what i have.  If someone else wants what i have, all they have to do is figure out what makes them happy and content and then go out and do the work to get it.  i know it's not as easy as that sounds but, that's basically all i did.  Of course, it took me many, many years to actually find it but, better late than never.  i truly do wish that everyone could find that special relationship that is just right for them and makes them so content that they would have no interest in what someone else has that they might be missing.
 
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RE: Being owned - 12/21/2007 3:06:27 PM   
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cool!  the insults and put downs are giving me new fodder just in time for the holiday family get togethers  *taking notes*


Fuck the Holidays

Norman Rockwell


I can think of better things to fuck.  LOL

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RE: Being owned - 12/22/2007 5:15:37 AM   
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Just a view at the most wondeful time of the year : -)...

There is a special spirit inside every slave. That spirit is unique in all the world but holds common characteristics with all others who are created to be slave. It was placed there before conception by the
Creator in accordance with the agreement reached with the soul.

The slave spirit is a very natural, unaffected animal, very much like the other animals of the world. Interchangeably, the words "slave", "spirit" and "animal" can be used once the real nature of slavery is understood. They all make reference to the same entity within anyone who is slave.

Why is it so difficult to accept being a slave?

The challenge is in the ego. Our whole life we are taught that we are who we are referring to when we say "I" or "me". Everyone in our support system convinces us the ego reference is to who we are. Everything we encounter while growing up refers to our need to identify and develop everything that we egotistically discover, are consciously aware of, and think that we want.

While we are each occupied with the process of taking care of our personal development, the slave animal remains dormant. The spirit patiently awaits a suitable environment into which it can come to life. The spirit is wise, and always has been. It won't expose itself to anything that isn't in its best interest and that contributes to its well being. If the necessary conditions are never encountered, the slave will never take its first breath. Those conditions are demanding. They must support a destined life.

At times during a slave's development, either consciously or by accident, there are temporary situations which will evoke a response from the animal. It will expose itself for a brief and controlled amount of time. The experience confirms to us the existence of the sprit, and encourages us to continue the pursuit of slavery. These glimpses into who we really are, along with the appetites we usually call fetishes that we were created with encourage us to explore further.

What the sprit really searches for, however, is an environment in which it can come to life, grow and never have to return to its dormant state. It is the spirit's purpose to locate and accept the environment in which that can be done.

What does it take to for the slave to find the environment it needs?

The slave's limitation is that it can never produce its own environment. The spirit requires its owner, the one who shares its spirit. Only the owner can direct that part of himself, the slave part, and empower the necessary growth. That is the challenge of slavery.

slavery isn't about relationships, activities, protocols, or titles.
slavery is about the search for, and acceptance of its owner who can give the spirit the opportunity to live. The Creator who placed the spirit inside doesn't give someone a destiny of slavery and then not provide the opportunity for it to develop. The egotistic human who contains the spirit doesn't perform the search for an owner, the spirit itself finds and presents the owner when the spirit is ready..

The struggle is with time. The spirit can't, and won't, accept its destiny until it is completely ready. And, until it is ready, there is
nothing the egotistic slave can do to accelerate the process. When the spirit is prepared, the Creator will provide the "coincidence" necessary for its development to begin. The slave doesn't have to arrange for it. The slave has to be open to it. The egotistic slave doesn't even know when she's ready, but the spirit does. Therefore, it is the slave's job to accept the opportunity to come to life when it is presented, not to create the opportunity in the first place.

The slave gets confused along the way. There is this long period of time between when we are born and when we are prepared to accept our destiny. During that time, our SM and other appetites direct the search to experiences which yield temporary satisfaction. These experiences are quick looks at the way it could and should be. A danger is presented during the wait. When these partial, temporary experiences feel beneficial the slave can be lulled into thinking it is his job to make the temporary experience permanent.

There is nothing instinctive that tells a slave that her experiences are intended to prepare her for her destiny, not to be the fulfillment of it. There is nothing in the slave's instincts which tell her that his job is to accept someone else as her owner. The slave usually feels her connection through a need to provide service, not find the single owner of the spirit that lives inside. The slave concludes that it is her job to find a relationship, instead of her destiny.

As more egotistic success is achieved, the slave continues to explore the same type of negotiated arrangements that yielded initial temporary benefits. This process is much like enjoying our sophomore year, and working at repeating it over and over for a lifetime. Frustration is the result. The ego, and the intellect with which we support the ego, make the process even more difficult.

Personal development has as its objective becoming egotistically strong. Being egotistically developed is what prepares us to accept our destiny. In fact, it is critical to the process of becoming egotistically successful. The ego, however, concludes that personal development is the same as destiny. So, it believes, being completely egotistic is the fulfillment of who we are.

Until a slave knows better, it is the inevitable belief that she is who her ego is. Our society, our therapists, our friends and our families
all confirm our erroneous belief. There are few clues that we should even be looking into someone else to find who we are. We settle for the popular thought, that our egos are who we are.

Only the one nagging feeling that something is still missing causes us to question the error of our conclusion about the ego. It takes courage and strength to look for an answer about who we are in places that everyone is telling us it is crazy to look. There is no support system for encouraging anyone to explore slavery as the answer to their spiritual aspirations. Finding who we are in someone else sounds too much like co-dependence and we've spent a fortune getting over that. Being a slave sounds too much like what we fought a civil war for, and for what many have died for to have the freedom to be who they were meant to be.

slavery is neither co-dependence nor the imposed submission that others have suffered throughout history. The ego intentionally misunderstands the difference as an excuse not to walk the path for which a slave was created. So long as the ego can argue that there is no solution, it doesn't have to accept one.

So, what happens then?

Life's experiences challenge the slave to let go. The slave begins to feel afraid. Egotistically, our training and development have taught us that we need to "take control", become personally directed, set our own goals, make things happen for ourselves, and create our own reality.

Letting go threatens all of the egotistic achievements that have been a sign of our success. Letting go taps into the fear of not being able to control our life, not being able to self-control our dark nature which might want to do something wrong, or that others wouldn't approve of. We know we would lose our right to negotiate for anything if we let go. We "enjoy" the fear of not being able to pursue what we want.

Our success at negotiating for a successful weekend, or week, or month, or six months, leads the slave to feel that all she needs is the right to negotiate the same thing for a life time. That's not how life works. That's not how the spirit works. That's not how relationships work.

The spirit must be let go, it must be set free. Like any animal, all spirits need the adventure of discovery to find out who it is. Kept in a cage the size of the body, no one will ever learn the nature of what is caged. Self control is a self-made prison the same size as the body. The perfectionist takes pride in how small the prison is. The perfectionist's height of achievement is building a space so small that there isn't room to make a mistake.

In real life, in real slaves, the result of our self-made prison is that the sprit never comes to life because of the limited size of its containment. It doesn't even try to live. It has the wisdom not to try
to grow in an environment that won't support it.

How, then, can the spirit be allowed to live?

The slave spirit must be controlled by another. It cannot live when it has any right to negotiate. It has no life so long as it can want for itself. It can feel only fear until it can find someone to whom it can
give unqualified obedience.

To whom can a slave give unqualified obedience?

The spirit must find its owner. That is very different from finding the human body's owner. This distinction is where the misunderstanding of property, and of rights has come from. Egotistic slaves still think that they have the right to negotiate for the owner of their body, while they retain their own egotistic control of the spirit.

The spirit owns the body, not the ego. The owner owns the spirit, and in the same way as she owns his own spirit. It is owned not as property but as self identification. When the body is owned directly, then it is erely property. That denigrates and denies the value of a slave. A slave cannot be property. That would be to have less value, and less protection than provided by the S.P.C.A. and laws that protect animals. There is nothing lesser about a slave. A slave is destined.

The egotistic objection to not using "I" and "me" is a reflection of the fear and reluctance to admit that the ego doesn't own who a slave is. To acknowledge that the slave spirit owns the body is to acknowledge the ego has no rights, has no control over who the slave is, nor over what it does, nor with whom it has a relationship.

When it isn't clear that the soul, the slave spirit, owns the body, the whole point of slavery is missed. Missing the whole point is the purpose of the ego. To indulge the ego is to continue to miss the point, the purpose, and the solutions to a slave's fulfillment and happiness.

How does the slave spirit grow?

It first has to grow through the egotistic preparation for its destiny. For someone who is slave the chronic egotistic control of the internal spirit eventually feels like an overwhelming burden. It doesn't feel right to a slave to always have to exercise egotistic control. The natural appetites of a slave for SM power, and the security of bondage, plus all the other instinctive appetites drive the slave spirit to seek and explore.

Some who are slave, some who have always carried the spirit inside, willingly submit to SM as an egotistically controlled release for the agreed-to amount of time that will allow the spirit to feel some freedom. Afterwards, the spirit is put back to sleep by the re-emergence of the ego's self control. This allows the slave to be controllably out of control. The spirit can be temporarily released without actually giving it any power, or any control of the "real" parts of life.

The appetites remain unrequited, regardless of what diversions and distractions are performed so long as the ego has any rights or influence. The ego feels it must stay powerful to prevent the spirit
from running wild. The ego is convinced that without itself we would follow the spirit and do unreasonable, unthinkable, embarrassing, disgusting things that others would criticize. We fear being thought of as having "unseemly exuberance"

The spirit is always experienced as being powerful and playful. There is a natural fear of giving anything that is so powerful and uncontrollable its "head." because it could do things that are not controlled and that might expose the slave. This brings out another fear that is similar to the feeling of being outed. It feels like arranging for our own self outing, by a part of ourselves that we can't keep under control. It is no wonder that we find such clever and un-relentless egotistic objections to putting ourselves into a position where we could expose ourselves to such behavior and results.

A slave, therefore, simultaneously feels that it wants to be controlled by another and at the same time needs to egotistically remain in control to insure an environment that makes sense, that is reasonable, and that doesn't denigrate the value or esteem of the slave. This is a dilemma. How can you act like a slave and still remain in a position powerful enough to assure protection of the slave's well being and best interest?

What is the solution?

Two conditions must be present. First, the slave's ego must be powerless so that there is no one but the owner to control the owner's spirit inside the slave. Second, the owner must act with a responsibility for the slave that is superior to the slave's potential or actualized responsibility for himself.

Why would anyone be motivated to take on such a responsibility?

Only someone who morally, really, and spiritually considers the slave to be a part of himself would be willing. No one would make a life-long commitment to another without believing some immutable relationship exists that was created beyond human control, and beyond any human right to dissolve it.

A slave is destined to belong to another. When that other is placed into the slave's life, the spirit is free to grow because, for the first time, there is someone in whom to place the obedience which sets the sprit free.

When is someone ready to begin development?

Each of the BORN slaves, and all of those currently committed to the development of their slavery did not plan on finding an owner. The meeting was both unexpected and compelling. There was no examination, no interview, no research, and no selection process. There was nothing to argue with or against. The spirit insisted and issued a captivating command. There was no choice, nothing to consider, and nothing logically to discuss. Such meetings are always, and only, the result of a slave's personal prayer of willingness to serve its Creator instead of its own selfish interest.

When someone is still "trying to decide" whether to accept an owner she isn't ready to begin his slave development. Only after the spirit is prepared can it accept the development of its destiny. Until then, the ego must continue to be developed and matured to ready it to accept the inevitable. Until the ego is developed far enough to know that it has tremendous capacity but still doesn't have any ability to produce happiness, it continues to argue, to consider, to discuss, to explore, to posture, to pretend that it has some control and influence over what must happen, and when it will happen.

The argument and struggle is a confirmation that the ego isn't ready. The spirit is patient, and won't arrange for its development until the
willingness that comes from egotistic development is adequate. So long as there remains a conscious doubt, a slave shouldn't consider the development of his slavery because she isn't ready to begin. That doesn't preclude having SM, bondage, and slavery experiences or relationships. It maturely recognizes that experiences and relationships are different from and therefore not the spiritual development of a slave's destiny. They are, instead, preparation for it.

When the spirit is compelled, because it knows the ego is ready, the opportunity for slave development happens without being arranged through personal effort. It then takes only willingness on the part of the slave. It will probably happen unexpectedly, and when its NOT something you're looking for. What we egotistically control, the Universe will not fight us for.

When the owner is put into the slave's life, the development of the spirit inside can then start. The spirit has always been a part of its owner. When the owner finds his spirit within a slave, and the slave is willing to give it to its rightful owner, then the conditions are, for the first time, in place for its growth.

What develops the slave spirit?

The slave spirit is too wild, too untamed, and so undomesticated that it annot be allowed to act on its own until it learns to obey. Common sense has kept it reined in, under self control, and therefore stifled. The slave cannot begin to know itself until it can explore without self control. The slave cannot begin to explore until it first learns to obey.

When a slave knows how to obey, and is obeying the only person in whom she can place absolute obedience, the one who will protect the sprit, the slave can finally let go. Life is not about controlling. It is about never being able to control again, never having to, and never wanting to.

The development process is one of exploring, to see what the spirit will do, how it will feel, and to find out what it is like. The slave must first learn to know the spirit that lives inside, that has always
belonged to another. Then she must learn to trust and love that spirit, because it is all, and everything, the slave is and will ever be.

The spirit must learn to live and express in the absolutely safe control of the owner through the sessions that both empower and force the spirit to venture into unknown territory. At the same time it must slowly learn to be allowed to live in obedience for the remainder of life, in the work place, in the family, in school, in hobbies and in every area. It is dipped into complete and safe exposure to experience, then taken out to learn to live in a world when the owner isn't physically present, but is only inside, inside as the spirit that lives within.

The perfectionist will attempt to keep tight egotistic controls on the spirit, to make sure it doesn't do anything wrong. This can keep it from being able to run free at all. There will be a fear of being in any position where control cannot be maintained. Excuses will be found to prevent the opportunity to have a session of exposure. As the
willingness to face and accept the truth becomes strong enough, the slave will let the spirit be empowered by its owner, and to let it go anywhere the owner wants it to go.

Only the owner can protect the spirit. Only the owner can empower it to explore. Only the owner can allow the spirit to express itself honestly and without any limits, or bounds. The owner forces it into situations, places, and circumstances where it must be exposed. Nothing can or will remain hidden. No agenda nor control will remain undisclosed.

The conscious obedience to the owner is the only lifeline that can allow the spirit to run free. If the owner calls it back from a dangerous place, without obedience, the spirit will continue and run into the potential dangers. When the slave is sure that she will obey, then the spirit can be allowed to go anywhere and everywhere. The owner's knowledge that she has both the ability and the intention of protecting His own spirit inside the slave, gives the slave spirit the absolute freedom it must have to grow.

The spirit is forced to go where it can expose the hidden desires for control, or for protection. It is forced to uncover the angers, resentments, disappointments, hatred, blame, and judgments that
contaminate us. If we control, or feel inappropriate, any response, then we control all response. We are either open or we are not. We can't be both available and hidden at the same time. Wherever there is any limit, there is every limit.

Honesty is powerhouse of growth. It is easy to direct a slave to have no response during a powerful session. It is easy to direct her to issue lots of "Oh, Yea's" upon command. What is difficult, and the most challenging, is to order a slave to respond honestly, no matter what the response is. The honest response is the only response of any value. All the rest is acting.

When complete honesty is learned, the growth continues through every situation, in business, personal, social, inside and outside the lifestyle. The slave learns that the spirit inside works in complete
moral certainty. Every circumstance and situation has a clear answer when the owner's spirit is allowed to give the answer. Every potential path is known to be the right one or the wrong one, the one intended by its Creator or not, the destined path or the egotistic path.


MERRY CHRISTMAS!

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RE: Being owned - 12/22/2007 5:26:00 AM   
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There are so many things in that post that I find offensive that I feel ill.

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