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Perhaps CM Should Rename This Section - 12/19/2007 10:31:29 PM

EvilGenie

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Honestly I would pose to CM to rename this section. This is not Casual Banter. Just count all of the threads in this section which are all out posted to antagonise, goad and bait. This regards those, not the honest topics.

People wasting valuable time out of their lives, not to debate as reasonable people, but to argue, incite, inflame, flame, inflate one's ego, cause havoc, name call and stomp on anyone who disagrees. Those are not the charactaristics of ''debate'' as so many are in love with that word. Most haven't a clue how to have an intelligent debate without enjoying that 'step on someone' factor. I rarely come to this section for this very reason and I know others who will not come near it any more.

Yes, you all post your ''written in blood'' CNN and YouTube links, BBC links et al as if they are the gospel and the only truth. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but CNN and the BBC have been accused of and found guilty of manufacturing news. The remaining news sources are dubious at best. Those who know how to debate and discuss usually do not use news outlets as their major source of informaton. I don't see people debating science and posting links to major research centers but giving opinion. Therein lies the problem.

Everyone has an opinion and it is just as valid as yours and yet you seek out, I have watched many actively seek out, people/anyone whom you can jump on and invalidate the given opinion. This is a kink site not a place to make anyone feel big in their small world by kicking others.

The only times, and they are rare, that I have come here is because an interesting subject blurb comes across my screen and it has brought me here. Frankly I am sick of the flaming, the name calling and the putting down of the many by the few. It has become a willy waving contest and made many appear as wankers.

Perhaps CM should rename this [Belittlement] >> Off Topic Discussion. No, this is not a rant, a vent or a bitch. It is someone who has tired of the BS and has the courage and right to say so.

EG

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RE: Perhaps CM Should Rename This Section - 12/19/2007 10:40:23 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: EvilGenie

This is a kink site not a place to make anyone feel big in their small world by kicking others.

Ummm. This statement seems a bit contradictory.

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RE: Perhaps CM Should Rename This Section - 12/19/2007 10:40:40 PM

MzMia

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Why do you read it?
I come here daily, and I might read 4-5 threads out of the hundreds of new threads
created daily.
Many, many, many topics don't interest me, and guess what?
I DON'T READ THEM.

People have a right to start topics that YOU might not like!
I often have people that post directly to me, and if I read 1 or 2 lines and I don't like it,
guess what?
I just stop reading what they wrote! IF someone continues to annoy you----USE THE BLOCK FEATURE.
I have a few idiots on block and I don't read anything they write anymore.
The block feature is the best feature on here, use it and it will enhance your Collar me experience.
You can't change most people on here, but you sure don't have to read anything they write either.

Happy Holidays!

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RE: Perhaps CM Should Rename This Section - 12/19/2007 10:45:49 PM

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God damn it! We shouldn't have so many fucking threads that just try to antagonize people!

You don't realize that you're just contributing to the problem with posts like this one?

quote:

ORIGINAL: EvilGenie

Honestly I would pose to CM to rename this section. This is not Casual Banter. Just count all of the threads in this section which are all out posted to antagonise, goad and bait.

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RE: Perhaps CM Should Rename This Section - 12/19/2007 10:46:03 PM

EvilGenie

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I explained why and how I have ended up here in the past. After 5 years at CM I know well how to use the block feature and I will repeat once again, this is my opinion on what I see happening here. This thread was begun by me for the purpose of airing my views. While I may read yours and everyone else's post here it does not mean that I need to agree with it nor do I have to disagree in a stomping fashion.

You have created threads solely for the purpose of airing your views which we all have the right to do; respectfully.

Happy Holidays!

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RE: Perhaps CM Should Rename This Section - 12/19/2007 10:48:24 PM

MzMia

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Of course you have the right to your view points.
We all can do that here, within reason.

I read your OP because I found it interesting.
Happy Holidays

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RE: Perhaps CM Should Rename This Section - 12/19/2007 10:49:09 PM

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I actually enjoy reading some of the insults and sarcasm that occur here. It's often quite funny and amusing. I don't come to the forums for a serious debate; I come here to amuse myself. We are all adults here (I hope), and I don't take anything that someone says here personally. Grow up and stop whining; we are not in group.

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RE: Perhaps CM Should Rename This Section - 12/19/2007 10:55:13 PM

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um, WOW??? Lighten up is all I can say. You already have an opinion of this part of the boards, why bother to even visit them, interesting blurb or not? I've noticed the same activity that you say goes on here on many of the other boards.....that is the nature of the beast.

As you said, everyone has an opinion and is entitiled to express it......and everyone on the boards has goaded, baited, flamed, and pissed off someone else at least once. To take it seriously is really kind of silly.....I've dodged around and been missed for the most part, but was actually insulted by someone here once who has no clue about me on a personal level....did it bother me? For all of a nanosecond.....but that's just me. I like this section of the boards....when I need a good belly laugh, I'll pop over here. But, to each their own.

You do realize that YOU could start a debate thread also, right? If you're not finding anything worth reading here already posted, then put something out there for debate. That way, you can quote whatever sources you'd like.....of course, someone else will have a news link or YouTube link ready to go......again, that is the nature of the beast!

Where is Level when you need him? (or her, I've never really looked!)

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RE: Perhaps CM Should Rename This Section - 12/19/2007 10:59:19 PM

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I have a better idea. PARTICIPATE.

You speak of kicking, look, your computer monitor does not have feet that we can throw in a special keystroke and kick you in the ass, or anywhere else. If you do actually have that feature tell us where you got the computer, because I bet it can do alot of other shit too.

You just don't like how it goes sometimes here, and I agree with you. I will pass by the posts that say mainly "you said this" and then "you said that" and all the other shit "you have nothing to back that up" and the like.

And you have mentioned about some of the most trusted news sources being untrustable, which throws most of that banter out the window. I mean when we can't trust the BBC who can we trust ? This is true and this is a problem. Another is cites, sites and quotes. I could write a webpage that says the sky is green. How do we ever know about any source ?

You're not going to get anywhere with the renaming, but you did bring up some interesting points. Who can we trust ?

T

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RE: Perhaps CM Should Rename This Section - 12/19/2007 11:08:35 PM

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Just goes to show you how vastly different we see things. I consider this section of the boards to be the best {by far} with the most reality-based, normal people.

- R

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RE: Perhaps CM Should Rename This Section - 12/19/2007 11:14:38 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger

Just goes to show you how vastly different we see things. I consider this section of the boards to be the best {by far} with the most reality-based, normal people.

- R

I agree with this statement, often this is the only section I bother to post in.
This is my favorite place on the boards, and I think most of the people that
post here regularly are justttttttt greattttttt!
Most of us here can agree to disagree.

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RE: Perhaps CM Should Rename This Section - 12/19/2007 11:23:02 PM

EvilGenie

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I do participate in what I find interesting. I have also watched those threads descend into a mud slinging match and/or I have seen an interesting topic, read a bit of the way and realise that I cannot (a decision I make) post as people are so busy calling each other names that the original meaning of the thread has been lost and not such a do-able thing to pull it back.

My views are just that, mine. In my 5 years I have seen things go from bad to worse and have also begun plenty of threads of my own. I go to any of the boards to either learn or impart information/help though lately that is a difficult task. Just my POV. Nobody has to agree with me. Also no, I don't see this thread as contributing to the problem when it is simply someone airing a view on how they have seen this section go and their unhappiness with it. I do not come here for intellectual debate nor do I come here for bashing either. If I find a thread offensive I move along. I come to CM in general to spend some of the little time that I have to simply talk or play a game, do a poll etc. When I do weigh in, I would like to think that generally I have something to add to the topic; not to argue with those I have a non-relationship with.

I have little time to participate in anything, though I do. People can flame this to their heart's content, read more into it than is there. That is their perogative though I am being told to lighten up and it seems that many of the replies are not so light themselves. Perhaps, just perhaps, there is a method to my madness.

I Wish You All Goodnight (very late here and work comes) and Happy Holidays!

EG

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RE: Perhaps CM Should Rename This Section - 12/19/2007 11:24:48 PM

EvilGenie

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quote:

ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger

Just goes to show you how vastly different we see things. I consider this section of the boards to be the best {by far} with the most reality-based, normal people.

- R

Yes, we all have a different perspective and that is what makes us human beings wonderful and certainly never dull.

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RE: Perhaps CM Should Rename This Section - 12/19/2007 11:37:46 PM

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I think it is hilariously funny and so ironic to read posts like this, which crop up daily. The poster rants and raves about how the boards have deteriorated into mudslinging matches, flamefests, yadda yadda yadda. They complain that topics get hijacked and lose track. Yawn.

They complain that they have no time to participate, yet somehow are finding the time to peruse all of the these useless threads. Yet they do nothing to add anything of interest to any of the threads they complain about. Instead they say, I was going to post, but got upset by the actions of other posters.

Here is what I tell those who complain: it is the internet, don't expect anything. You tend to get from an experience, that which you contribute to that experience. Meaning: if you participate in the forums with humor, intellect, flexibility, a sense of fun and whimsy, a sense of curiousity, a willingness to listen and share information and experiences or just an openess to be entertained, then your online experience will be a good one.

If you come to the online experience thinking you can control what people write and say, you are shit out of luck. You control nothing but your own reactions. If you are thin skinned and pixels on a screen upset you, perhaps you need to just live life with real live people who have a censoring mechanism so as to not upset you. Because online, there is no censor. We do and say whatever we like. It is called freedom of expression.

And, as someone said, whenever there is a perceived problem, it is best to provide a solution rather than whine about it. So perhaps you could start a fabulously intriguing thread of your own and see how that goes. But don't be surprised or have a hissy fit if it does not go as planned.

I should not be surprised to find so many control freaks on a kink site, but I am. And you cannot control any of us. Because many of us might be bitches to you, but none of us are YOUR bitch.

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RE: Perhaps CM Should Rename This Section - 12/19/2007 11:43:27 PM

EvilGenie

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1

I think it is hilariously funny and so ironic to read posts like this, which crop up daily. The poster rants and raves about how the boards have deteriorated into mudslinging matches, flamefests, yadda yadda yadda. They complain that topics get hijacked and lose track. Yawn.

They complain that they have no time to participate, yet somehow are finding the time to peruse all of the these useless threads. Yet they do nothing to add anything of interest to any of the threads they complain about. Instead they say, I was going to post, but got upset by the actions of other posters.

Here is what I tell those who complain: it is the internet, don't expect anything. You tend to get from an experience, that which you contribute to that experience. Meaning: if you participate in the forums with humor, intellect, flexibility, a sense of fun and whimsy, a sense of curiousity, a willingness to listen and share information and experiences or just an openess to be entertained, then your online experience will be a good one.

If you come to the online experience thinking you can control what people write and say, you are shit out of luck. You control nothing but your own reactions. If you are thin skinned and pixels on a screen upset you, perhaps you need to just live life with real live people who have a censoring mechanism so as to not upset you. Because online, there is no censor. We do and say whatever we like. It is called freedom of expression.

And, as someone said, whenever there is a perceived problem, it is best to provide a solution rather than whine about it. So perhaps you could start a fabulously intriguing thread of your own and see how that goes. But don't be surprised or have a hissy fit if it does not go as planned.

I should not be surprised to find so many control freaks on a kink site, but I am. And you cannot control any of us. Because many of us might be bitches to you, but none of us are YOUR bitch.

And, gee I used to read your posts with great interest also enjoying your sense of humor, sincerely. I find great distaste in referring to anyone as bitches though. Oh, one here is mine though he is not a bitch.

Thank you for leaving a reply!

Now I am seriously off to bed. It is extremely late.

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RE: Perhaps CM Should Rename This Section - 12/19/2007 11:47:06 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: EvilGenie

quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1

And, gee I used to read your posts with great interest also enjoying your sense of humor, sincerely. I find great distaste in referring to anyone as bitches though. Oh, one here is mine though he is not a bitch.

Thank you for leaving a reply!

Now I am seriously off to bed. It is extremely late.

I am glad you used to like to read my posts and used to appreciate my humor. I imagine that because I have disagreed with you, you no longer would enjoy them. Tragic, really.

I used the word bitch in the colloquial term, not derogatory at all; more tongue in cheek. But again, words are subject to interpretation as is intent and most of all, humor. All of which is subjective. Words can only be given the power you attribute to them.

Have a lovely night.

< Message edited by sexyred1 -- 12/19/2007 11:49:50 PM >

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RE: Perhaps CM Should Rename This Section - 12/20/2007 2:36:16 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: EvilGenie

Everyone has an opinion and it is just as valid as yours

EG

Good morning, Genie. An interesting post, but I would disagree with the above comment. Carl Sagan once said, "The well-meaning contention that all ideas have equal merit seems to me little different from the disastrous contention that no ideas have any merit", and I believe that.

The second half of your sentence was:

quote:

and yet you seek out, I have watched many actively seek out, people/anyone whom you can jump on and invalidate the given opinion

I've done that, I'm sure, but I hope not often.

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RE: Perhaps CM Should Rename This Section - 12/20/2007 2:54:00 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: soul2share

Where is Level when you need him? (or her, I've never really looked!)

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RE: Perhaps CM Should Rename This Section - 12/20/2007 2:55:16 AM

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so you complain about something by doing the very thing you are bitching about? i think this should answer your own question.........one persons flaming is another persons interesting topic.......we are all.........hang on to ya bloomers......DIFFERENT!

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RE: Perhaps CM Should Rename This Section - 12/20/2007 3:02:38 AM

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EvilGenie: for once I find myself siding with a majority response by agreeing with those posters who say you are mistaken in your assessment of this section.

One of its major attractions for me is precisely that you can forcibly disagree with posters' opinions. In everyday life we all make compromises in our response to others while secretly moaning under our breath. Well I do anyway.

Here you can just spell it out , expect to receive as well as give, and long may it remain so.
Some threads, but not many, do reduce to a personal mud sling. lol

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