Aswad
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ORIGINAL: bipolarber
I have approached your philosophy, based on the holy 26 crappy novels of John Norman, with an open mind and I was thuroughly rejected by those who follow it.
Hey, bipolarber... my philosophy does not derive from the abysmally poor novels of John Norman.
If you'd stuck around long enough, you might have realized that at some point.
Hell knows I have said it more than often enough there.
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I was called an "abomination."
I've been called worse. Get over it.
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I was told by one of your members that he "would sooner spit on me as talk to me."
I might concur, but not for the same reasons. He said it because he was close-minded and prejudiced against your orientation and your inclination. If I were to say it, I would say it because you have insulted me by implying that my assessment is the same, and that I would venerate the shitty fiction spewed by Norman over what I believe to be the philosophy that lies at the core of my religious beliefs. That, and you're too trigger-happy.
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As I say, I approached you guys with an open mind.
As far as I can remember, you did not, but neither were you met with an open mind, so no matter.
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But because your group is bigoted, (against Fem Dom, against male subs, against GLBT in general) I have had to change my views, and consider your philosophy to be worthless.
I have a group now, all of a sudden? This is news to me, to be sure.
Let me address this regarding myself, rather than this supposed group of mine, then:
I find some femdoms attractive as life partners, and most as potential play partners, but I am not the man they are looking for. I can get on my knees for a session, but I cannot thrive while living on my knees. Simple as that. Hell, my mind is flexible enough that I'd probably be able to compartmentalize my mind well enough to submit for a weekend,or maybe even longer. But I cannot be myself in that space over time. And I can't feel that it's real for me if she isn't able to take me there, by force if need be. That excludes most femdoms, but not all, and I can still play with the rest if they want to, but it will be for my enjoyment that I do so, not hers.
I think that pretty much defeats the point for most femdoms that might interest me.
As for male slaves, I would probably be trying out one right now, if his English had been good enough to communicate clearly with regards to expectations, limits and so forth. I have never done so before, although I have had offers. If that is your nature, I respect you for it, and for living true to that nature. It is not my nature, however. Each thing in its place, according to its nature. Hell, even Bull has played with the thought (albeit as a purely service oriented thing). Male subs are unworkable for me, as are female subs at this time, as either would require emotionally bonding to both me and my girl.
I take it you fully comprehend fidelity, and thus my respect for her not being poly (as far as we know).
As for LGBT, if you had read the backlog, you would see that me, Naja, and various others, have explained that this is natural variation. You will also see that I have noted that, scientifically speaking, the brain is born without a preference for either gender, and that this preference arises through scent conditioning (a reversal of the genes involved in this will lead to an inverted effect of this stimulus) via scent-arousal coupling. Later, this preference is modified by the environment in which one is reared, along with exposure and any subsequent intentional efforts at changing the resultant arousal conditioning.
For me, ass is ass. A man has one less hole for me to play with, and will generally look less attractive. Brad is sexy, and I'd do him. But I'd prefer to do his wife. And I would not have a chance at making a relationship work with him, for the simple reason that I do not bond emotionally with men in the same way that I bond with women. Whether that is a consequence of the aforementioned conditioning, doesn't really matter. I might be able to learn to love men, but I have no reason to do so; there's plenty of already compatible people out there, and I don't need to love one to fuck one or play with one.
My girl is bisexual. She may even have a slight preference for the gals; it certainly seems that way at times, going by how many women she will find attractive, compared to how many men she will find attractive. It's her natural orientation. And I certainly don't mind that. Saves me the time it would take to get her used to having sex with women if she'd been heterosexually oriented. I would not want her to live contrary to her orientation.
I've been open about these things all along, and it doesn't stop a significant number of the Gorean men and women on these boards from counting me among their number. Even some who do have the prejudices you describe have done so. Which leads me to suspect that there is something else that caused your reception on those boards, and I find that this suspicion is supported by the observations I made of your posting at the time.
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Being "open minded" means giving something... an idea, a person, a lifestyle... a chance to prove itself.
Bingo. Which is very close to paraphrasing a fundamental tenet: judge by merit alone.
Not everyone follows that tenet perfectly, but we're only human, and thus imperfect, n'est ce pas?
That said, my judgment of your merits was not favorable, which has nothing to do with you being LGBT, being a malesub, or your views on femdoms. Find a femdom that is willing to bring a cute malesub along on a vacation to Norway for some tag-teaming with me, and I'll have a go at it. That is not where the problem with you is at, for me.
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But if it turns out that what you gave a chance to is evil and destructive, then you toss it on a scrap heap and try to tell others of your experience of it, to save them the effort... or at least let them investigate it on their own with their gaurd up.
Actually, if what I've given a chance to is not to my liking, I leave it alone and shrug.
If it's "evil" and destructive in my judgment, I put an end to it.
No reason to pass it on to others.
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There ARE things in BDSM that should be abandoned.
On this, we disagree. Comes back to the "openmindedness" thing.
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Things that are patently dangerous either physically, or mentally.
Driving a car is patently dangerous. In fact, driving to and from work every day on the freeway is as dangerous as being promiscuous without a condom. Yet we allow people to do so. Jumping off a cliff, smoking, drinking excessively, and so forth, are all patently dangerous. Yet we allow people to do so. Going back to an abusive spouse is patently dangerous, both physically and mentally. Yet we leave it up to the battered spouse to choose.
I pick my risks, and if anyone tries to interfere, they will learn that self-defense is for living, not just life.
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It falls under the "safe and sane" part of SSC.
Which is a part that not all of us adhere to, among other things because it's terribly relative.
I take it you're familiar with RACK, for instance.
Health,
al-Aswad.
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"If God saw what any of us did that night, he didn't seem to mind.
From then on I knew: God doesn't make the world this way.
We do." -- Rorschack, Watchmen.
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