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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 2:50:59 PM   
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Clinton made America a laughingstock around the world


...not to comment on Clinton's domestic record, but i'm afraid he isn't viewed as a laughing stock at all world-wide. Rather he is considered to have presided over the most sane US foreign policy since JFK from a world perspective. That isn't quite the same as saying that he had the best US foreign policy in US terms, but that he basically didn't screw up as many other countries as presidents before or after. The whole monica lewinsky thing, from a world perspective, reflects more on the US right wing than Clinton himself, it was basically seen as a witch hunt over what seemed a trivial matter.....a blow job.

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 2:59:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Now, a president I find nearly as embarrassing as Bush (though he doesn't quite reach Dubbya's level: he can write, for a start; and he hasn't tried to start World War III, well, not yet anyway) is Snarkozy (mistake deliberate).

The latest is that following his much publicised divorce from Cecilia, he is now being touted all over the French press with his new squeeze, an embarrassing Cecilia lookalike.

He's obviously trying to look cool; but he's failing miserably. He has a major handicap, of course: he's a frog. Flying over to the US and eating hotdogs with Dubbya did NOT help his credibility factor.

The moral of the story is: beware who you vote for. You may well get them as your head of state.

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 3:01:24 PM   
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The moral of the story is: beware who you vote for. You may well get them as your head of state.


...constitutional monarchy gets rid of that problem.....

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 3:05:09 PM   
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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 3:09:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Huckabee is someone I fear more than Hillary.

Huckabee fits the definition of a fascist. He's a liberal who likes big government and is obsessed with religion. And if he's elected there is no doubt in my mind that he will use the Oval Office to jam his Christian morality down everyone's throat.

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 3:22:11 PM   
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Owner, the Clintons are low lifes and scumbags.
You might just as well go down to the beach and shovel sand against the tide as to try to defend them.
What's in that for (you?)
They'd run you over in a limo if they were late for dinner.


I  don`t need to defend them.The only thing I was pissed at  him over,was a lie about a(singular,as in one single)blow job.

That`s it.He admitted it(let`s see a republican man up and admit a mistake),apologized for it,and we moved on,that.We`ve(normal folks)have moved on,that is.If only we had the luxury of that level of corruption,now.I`m still waiting for Bush I to admit to his roll in the Iran-Contra-gate scandal,for agreeing to sell high tech weapons to the Iranians,hell will freeze over before Bush II takes responcibility for his deadly lies.

I`ll take Bill Clinton`s competence and abilities any day,over the disaster that has been the last 7 years.Good god,what else can Bush II fuck up,that`s he`s in charge of,that has hasn`t already.

Good god,what would the republicans have said and done,if Al Gore had done any of the things Dick Chaney has?Pah-leeze!


All the republicans ever did(for 8 years) was abuse their power to investigate,and then babel on and on,everyday on every talk-show,about how corrupt the Clintons were.

At the end,after all the millions and millions spent,and the thousands of hours of law enforcement spent,it came down to a misleading statement,in a frivolous civil lawsuit.

Wow.Big whoop.

If only Bush`s lies were that innocuous,that petty.If only we had the luxury to waste time and money,like we did in the 90`s.If only we weren`t wasting money a thousand fold,in Iraq,and worse,wasting our boy`s lives there.

If only...

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 7:32:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Owner, good rant, you're sounding more and more like a Ron Paul man everyday.

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 7:42:12 PM   
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The Huckabee family Christmas card was reviewed (amongst others) on the TV last night.

I didnt know whether to laugh, or be embarasssed for them. I would suggest he tries to avoid bringing his family into his campaign in any way in future - after all, in today's politics, image is so important.

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Were they all dressed in their best white sheets?

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 7:46:16 PM   
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  Why is it,that when one of the 80 asshole leaders of the GOP get caught being a complete asshole,the automatic response is to bring up Bill Clinton?



     Simple.  We aren't so much bringing up Bill Clinton, as we are pointing out the hypocrisy of those on the left who didn't give a rats ass when Clinton did the same thing.  And Wild Bill gave us lots of ammunition .

    

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 10:00:02 PM   
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Why is it,that when one of the 80 asshole leaders of the GOP get caught being a complete asshole,the automatic response is to bring up Bill Clinton?



    Simple.  We aren't so much bringing up Bill Clinton, as we are pointing out the hypocrisy of those on the left who didn't give a rats ass when Clinton did the same thing.  And Wild Bill gave us lots of ammunition .

   


If you're implying that Bill Clinton was on the left, then I've no idea which side of the globe you're looking down from, mate.

Clinton was spot on center-right, at his most left-wing.

Question is: where does that leave you?

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 10:03:44 PM   
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Clinton made America a laughingstock around the world


...not to comment on Clinton's domestic record, but i'm afraid he isn't viewed as a laughing stock at all world-wide. Rather he is considered to have presided over the most sane US foreign policy since JFK from a world perspective. That isn't quite the same as saying that he had the best US foreign policy in US terms, but that he basically didn't screw up as many other countries as presidents before or after. The whole monica lewinsky thing, from a world perspective, reflects more on the US right wing than Clinton himself, it was basically seen as a witch hunt over what seemed a trivial matter.....a blow job.


It was actually more than a trivial matter, because Bill Clinton committed adultery. As Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces, he is subject to UCMJ laws of conduct, and adultery is expressly against the law.

So it's more than just a matter of a blow job and a lie, as most people make it out to be. Don't get me wrong, it's still nothing too heinous or major, and nothing to get up in arms about, but there was a legitimate law broken.

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 10:26:42 PM   
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Clinton made America a laughingstock around the world


...not to comment on Clinton's domestic record, but i'm afraid he isn't viewed as a laughing stock at all world-wide. Rather he is considered to have presided over the most sane US foreign policy since JFK from a world perspective. That isn't quite the same as saying that he had the best US foreign policy in US terms, but that he basically didn't screw up as many other countries as presidents before or after. The whole monica lewinsky thing, from a world perspective, reflects more on the US right wing than Clinton himself, it was basically seen as a witch hunt over what seemed a trivial matter.....a blow job.


It was actually more than a trivial matter, because Bill Clinton committed adultery. As Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces, he is subject to UCMJ laws of conduct, and adultery is expressly against the law.

So it's more than just a matter of a blow job and a lie, as most people make it out to be. Don't get me wrong, it's still nothing too heinous or major, and nothing to get up in arms about, but there was a legitimate law broken.


Weren't you up in arms about freedom of speech on the 'Hitler' rant a couple of days ago?! So I see you protect a dubious piece of legislation that goes against freedom of cock. Good to know :-) .

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 10:49:45 PM   
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Clinton made America a laughingstock around the world


...not to comment on Clinton's domestic record, but i'm afraid he isn't viewed as a laughing stock at all world-wide. Rather he is considered to have presided over the most sane US foreign policy since JFK from a world perspective. That isn't quite the same as saying that he had the best US foreign policy in US terms, but that he basically didn't screw up as many other countries as presidents before or after. The whole monica lewinsky thing, from a world perspective, reflects more on the US right wing than Clinton himself, it was basically seen as a witch hunt over what seemed a trivial matter.....a blow job.


It was actually more than a trivial matter, because Bill Clinton committed adultery. As Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces, he is subject to UCMJ laws of conduct, and adultery is expressly against the law.

So it's more than just a matter of a blow job and a lie, as most people make it out to be. Don't get me wrong, it's still nothing too heinous or major, and nothing to get up in arms about, but there was a legitimate law broken.


Weren't you up in arms about freedom of speech on the 'Hitler' rant a couple of days ago?! So I see you protect a dubious piece of legislation that goes against freedom of cock. Good to know :-) .


Explain to me exactly where I "protected" a dubious piece of legislation? By pointing out a fact that not that many know about?

And this "freedom of cock" ? Show it to me in the Constitution, this "freedom of cock."

As Commander in Chief, the President of the United States is still held accountable under UCMJ laws. Would you rather the President be above them?

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/21/2007 10:59:31 PM   
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Deliberate harming animals is a sure sign of sociopathy; goes to show, Hucka's not that good at raising his own kids.




if the person is a sociopath, it wouldnt matter HOW well s/he was raised.  ted bundy had a perfect homelife by all accounts, and look how he turned out.  bad brain wiring has nothing to do with how a person was raised.

kitten, who isnt defending the miscreant, just saying.

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/22/2007 12:39:47 AM   
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Weren't you up in arms about freedom of speech on the 'Hitler' rant a couple of days ago?! So I see you protect a dubious piece of legislation that goes against freedom of cock. Good to know :-) .


He does have freedom to fuck anyone he pleases.  However, I have the freedom to view him as a lying, deceitful snake too.  A man that cheats on his wife repeatedly, will cheat on everything else in his life.

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/22/2007 6:16:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Lying is a mandatory exam for would-be politicians, and what people do in their own beds concerns them, and only them. Why are people so obsessed with the sexual cavortings of Clinton, but never mention Dubbya's notorious coke and booze years?! I don't care if Clinton got a BJ when he was in office, more the power to him. Considering the rabid puritanism of America, I am not surprised he lied about it, but I ask again: we start with a thread on Huckabee and people start on yet another rant against Bill. Strange, that!

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/22/2007 6:30:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		        Again, Kitten, it isn't about Bill.  It's about people who want "outrage" when a conservative does something, but had no problem with Bill doing it.

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/22/2007 6:51:50 AM   
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       Again, Kitten, it isn't about Bill.  It's about people who want "outrage" when a conservative does something, but had no problem with Bill doing it.


Is it really? The conversation strikes me as infantile.

Nothing wrong with that, if one's into bratting. It's transparent though, and attempting to cover up the bratting with pseudo-political discourse fools nobody :-) .

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/22/2007 6:58:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		      Sorry if it bothers you that I drove a truck through the hole in your argument.  You are going to run into a lot of that.

      Perhaps if you change the subject often enough, no one will notice?

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RE: Huckabee,Huckabee`s son,a hanged dog,and a fired co... - 12/22/2007 7:07:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Which argument? I had no argument; I wasn't arguing. I was commenting lightheartedly. Your analogy of a 'truck driving through' truly befits your conversational style, Heretic.

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