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RE: I fucked up my LSAT. I am going to cry. - 12/21/2007 4:54:34 PM   
angelikaJ


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Status: offline 		Re: test taking...on ANY given day you will do better or worse...if you are short by 3 points it is not  solely a reflection of your inteligence.
It is the score you were able to get on that day. No one is going to have every answer every time.

I feel sad that you did really, really well and you are angry with yourself and afraid of the consequences instead of feeling proud and happy with your accomplishment.

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RE: I fucked up my LSAT. I am going to cry. - 12/21/2007 4:56:12 PM   
kitttty


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If he truly cares for you, and wants a life with you as his wife, I dont think he'd leave over a score.


It would be abnormal here, but we are both from Asian countries, where sometimes people do refuse to get married over scores.

My father is going to be downright ashamed of me.

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RE: I fucked up my LSAT. I am going to cry. - 12/21/2007 4:57:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		greetings kitttty,

you are a whole human being, worthy of care and regard, independent of your father, master, or anyone else, and independent of their opinions of you. your value exists independent of their judgment.

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RE: I fucked up my LSAT. I am going to cry. - 12/21/2007 5:00:14 PM   
kitttty


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Status: offline 		Well, I will have to wait and see what he does. I am already not allowed to call or email him because I was delinquent on another matter.

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RE: I fucked up my LSAT. I am going to cry. - 12/21/2007 5:09:52 PM   
MistressNoName


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Status: offline 		Kitty,

Your situation is horrible and I feel for you. As others have said, your score is NOT a failure. Call up some law schools and ask them for yourself. But what really concerns me, aside from this horrible lack of support from your family and master, is that it seems you don't even want to go to law school. That you only took the exam because it was your master's wish. Imagine how much higher you might've scored if your heart had really been in it...goodness!

I shouldn't advise you because I am not in your situation, but your master sounds unrealistic, at best. Setting a goal can be a fine way to motivate oneself. But if one falls 3 points lower than the set goal, lets not go and throw the baby out with the bath water. I think you should re-think why you want him so desperately that you will take this, yes I'm gonna use the "a" word, emotional abuse from him. It sounds like ca-ca to me.

I hope you will find yourself in all of this and determine to do what is best for kitty. Sounds like she deserves it, but she sure ain't gettin' it now.

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RE: I fucked up my LSAT. I am going to cry. - 12/21/2007 5:11:21 PM   
Decimus


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Status: offline 		Kittty,
Um I do agree with others it is not the end of the world, you did do very well on the scores. I understand your cultural background that does put a great deal of pressure on scholastic pressure. However I used the little link someone posted above and (http://www.studentdoc.com/law-schools.php) and for Harvard which as everyone in America knows is a very prestigious law school requires 167 LSAT test and 3.76 GPA. Now I'm not sure what your GPA is but if your LSAT is THAT high then I'd assume you would push yourself to be btwn 3.75 and 4.0 as a GPA. Therefore you could get into Harvard Law school. I personally think thats pretty good and your father and your Master should be proud of you.

Just my two cents. Its gonna be four if you want me to post again! ;)

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RE: I fucked up my LSAT. I am going to cry. - 12/21/2007 5:11:26 PM   
angelikaJ


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Did you take the LSATs to prove to this guy you're smart or to get into law school?


I took it because he told me to take it to go to law school (also his decision).

When I took the test, the very low 170s were the upper range of my practice scores. When I took a princeton review practice a month before, I got a 168. So, I did not improve although I studied on most days.

I do not think he is kidding. He says sometimes he thinks the goals he sets are too hard for me and if that is the case, I should tell him and he will release me and be my friend. But I dont want that at all.

My real father will also be disappointed about my score.


Do you want to be a lawyer?


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RE: I fucked up my LSAT. I am going to cry. - 12/21/2007 5:35:41 PM   
ownedgirlie


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Status: offline 		Hi again, kittty,

I realize part of the worry may be that incredibly high LSAT scores are required as part of entry (particularly if seeking a scholarship) into one of the more prestigious law schools in this country.  For some, entry into such a school is quite important.

If it helps, here is some info on the top 15 law schools, in order of rank, and what their median LSAT scores are.  Most of these schools do not have a "required" minimum; they look at GPA and other criteria, as well.  I'd say you did quite well, given the information below.

Those schools with a range listed reflect the 25th and 75th percentiles.

http://www.top-law-schools.com/rankings.html


Yale – 170-176

Harvard – 170-175

Stanford – Median is 169

New York University – Median is 170

Columbia – Median is 172

University of Chicago – Median is 170

University of PA –165-168

UC Berkeley Boalt School of Law –164-169

University of MI-Ann Arbor –166-169

Duke University – Median is 168

Virginia Law School –167-171

Northwestern University – 166-170

Cornell – 166-168

Georgetown – 162-167

UCLA – 162-167

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RE: I fucked up my LSAT. I am going to cry. - 12/21/2007 5:36:12 PM   
chloe1


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Status: offline 		You said that you'd taken the review course and you still didn't raise your mark. Well, really the LSAT is akin to an intelligence test (at least insofar as intelligence relates to logic and reading comprehension), so while you can learn the patterns associated with the questions, you really can't raise your level of intelligence by taking one test.

I took the LSAT at the beginning of the month as well. I actually -want- to be a lawyer. No one's forcing me, but me. I was damn happy with the 159 I got. Certainly not genius level, but enough to give me a favourable impression. But, as you know, its not just the LSAT that gets you into law school. There are many considerations that schools look at when considering candidates.

Personally, I hope you don't get in. Nothing against you, more against your Master for being such a pompous ass that he thinks that by arbitrarily deciding on your life's work, that he can somehow mold you into the perfect wife. I'm sure you're quite perfect on your own. Maybe not for him, but for someone. Also, I want to be surrounded by people in law school who are as passionate as I am about law - not who are motivated fear of the repricussions of others.

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RE: I fucked up my LSAT. I am going to cry. - 12/21/2007 5:45:29 PM   
kitttty


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Now I'm not sure what your GPA is but if your LSAT is THAT high then I'd assume you would push yourself to be btwn 3.75 and 4.0 as a GPA.


No. I am an underachiever who does not try. I have a 3.45 and dropped out of school for several years until Master made me finish.

Do I want to be a lawyer? I guess so. I want to go to law school. My father says I want to avoid the real world by hiding in school.

I don't think we should make any decisions based on what I want. I am terrible. Despite having an IQ which is within the top 1%, I nearly failed out of high school. The guidance counselor told my parents not to send me to college because it would waste their money. The other kids and teachers publicly discussed how I would never graduate and fail in life. Which was essentially true until Master corrected this.
And its not like I am gifted in some other way. I am not good with my hands (Master is). I am not some artist. I am just a technically book smart person that doesn't even do well in school. I also spent over two years being unemployed after I left school. I actually have no memory of what I did during that time. Laid in bed mostly.

I need my Master. I do not function without him.

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RE: I fucked up my LSAT. I am going to cry. - 12/21/2007 5:46:32 PM   
ThinkingKitten


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ORIGINAL: kitttty

It would be abnormal here, but we are both from Asian countries, where sometimes people do refuse to get married over scores.

My father is going to be downright ashamed of me.

Dear kitttty:
I was going to keep my mouth shut until I saw this post from you. If there's one thing that I remember from my time at University, it was seeing students from Asian backgrounds yawning their heads off on the last bus home, because they didn't go dare go home before then, and are only going now because the library is closing (I overheard them complaining about it - so it's not supposition on my part). They've been getting the push from their parents who have high expectations and want them to be doctors, or lawyers or whatever, because their parents "never had those opportunities, and are now sacrificing everything so their kids can get ahead" (regardless of what their kids want).

Later on, you meet these graduates, and it is obvious they are miserable, and only going through the motions of being a doctor or whatever. Zero passion and interest. Please don't be one of those, and do future legal clients a disservice by trying to represent them, or give legal counsel to anyone when you're not in that profession of your own volition, and really don't care. Don't be one of those living their parent's lives, not their own. When it comes to your Dom, I'd say the same thing. Live YOUR life in his service, not HIS life in his service.

Be proud of what you've done so far. A good LSAT is not a particularly good measure of intelligence - it just means you can answer those kinds of questions well. And if your Dom thinks it is, then he's not nearly as intelligent as he'd like to think he is. If you seriously think you can do better, and YOU want to try again then give it a go. Don't be fooled by irrational external pressures.

Good luck.

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RE: I fucked up my LSAT. I am going to cry. - 12/21/2007 5:46:53 PM   
kitttty


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You said that you'd taken the review course and you still didn't raise your mark.


I did not take the course. I took the free practice on Nov 11 and took the test on Dec 1. I am broke as coke. I wish I could afford a review course.

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RE: I fucked up my LSAT. I am going to cry. - 12/21/2007 5:52:23 PM   
kitttty


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Also, I want to be surrounded by people in law school who are as passionate as I am about law


Man, I think you're the one whose chosen the wrong career. Law has perhaps the highest job dissatisfaction because practically no one is passionate about the law.

I'm deranged. I am passionate only about serving the Master. If he tells me to be passionate about law, I will be. If he tells me to call off the applications, I will do that instead.

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RE: I fucked up my LSAT. I am going to cry. - 12/21/2007 5:55:23 PM   
ThinkingKitten


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ORIGINAL: kitttty

I'm deranged.


I rest my case.

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RE: I fucked up my LSAT. I am going to cry. - 12/21/2007 5:55:55 PM   
kitttty


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I was going to keep my mouth shut until I saw this post from you. If there's one thing that I remember from my time at University, it was seeing students from Asian backgrounds yawning their heads off on the last bus home, because they didn't go dare go home before then, and are only going now because the library is closing (I overheard them complaining about it - so it's not supposition on my part). They've been getting the push from their parents who have high expectations and want them to be doctors, or lawyers or whatever, because their parents "never had those opportunities, and are now sacrificing everything so their kids can get ahead" (regardless of what their kids want).


Yes. My parents do not understand not being overachievers because they both are like this. As are Master's parents. As is Master and his sister and her husband and probably her kids.

quote:

And if your Dom thinks it is, then he's not nearly as intelligent as he'd like to think he is. If you seriously think you can do better, and YOU want to try again then give it a go. Don't be fooled by irrational external pressures.


He will not think I am less intelligent. That he miiight forgive. He will think that I am unmotivated because I am not like the yawning kids on the bus that go home only when the library closes.

Besides, if i am not going to be a slave and I am not going to be a lawyer, I have no clue what I should do with my time.

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RE: I fucked up my LSAT. I am going to cry. - 12/21/2007 6:04:11 PM   
MissMagnolia


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Status: offline 		Albert Einstein had atrocious spelling and a shocking memory. However, he managed to split the atom and was quite a bright chap.

Charles Darwin was reviled, ridiculed and rejected for his idea's on evolution. It turned out that he wasn't quite as off the mark as he seemed.

I have a friend with an IQ of 78. She isn't too good with reading and writing, but ask her about an injured animal, and she talks like a veterinarian and knows exactly what to do.

In other words, an IQ score is the result of someone elses interpretation of intelligence levels. They may be right, or way off the mark. In 1,000 years, I wonder what the new "IQ tests" will show?



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RE: I fucked up my LSAT. I am going to cry. - 12/21/2007 6:08:51 PM   
ThinkingKitten


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Besides, if i am not going to be a slave and I am not going to be a lawyer, I have no clue what I should do with my time.


Then don't sweat it. Get a job to support yourself, and take your time to figure it out. It's not a race to graduate. I didn't go to Univ until I was in my late twenties. Took me that long to figure out what I wanted to do, but by then with a truckload of wordly experience, I had it figured out and was ready to kick some ass in school (and I did, because I really wanted to be there, and really wanted that chosen profession). I've never looked back (nearly fifteen years later).

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RE: I fucked up my LSAT. I am going to cry. - 12/21/2007 6:12:47 PM   
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read all the posts, looked at kitttty's profile =

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RE: I fucked up my LSAT. I am going to cry. - 12/21/2007 6:13:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kitttty

Had to get 170. Got 167.

I want to throw things. Master is going to beat me senseless *if* I'm lucky. Probably something much worse like a ban on seeing him for a really long time. I dunno. I'm freaking out.

Really. Freaking out. This is bad.

I'm worried he'll leave me.


The review class helps but sit down with the test from the last two years, you can get them by ordering them, they are probably online now.  Take them over and over again until you ace them.  You can do it.  It ain't simple logic, the LSAT is a ridiculous test to see if you can take a test.

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RE: I fucked up my LSAT. I am going to cry. - 12/21/2007 6:17:37 PM   
ThinkingKitten


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SMH = shaking my head!!!!!
read all the posts, looked at kitttty's profile =

Wish I could, but don't have a profile there anymore, and hate that stupid disclaimer. But I've read certain allegations before .......

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