LadyEllen
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Luscious: you make good points except this onequote:
Do you really think us weak woman really want to work outside the home? Feminists have told us for years that women are capable, independant and in the extreme dont really need men
The serious side of this thread , and you acknowledge it, shows that argument is false.
Women are capable and independent - and dont really need men. Same as men can get by without women. Seems a boring and unsatisfactory state of affairs in both cases though.
Thing is, women and men tend in most cases to like one another and this is indeed fortunate for procreative purposes, in that the raising of a child requires a lot of time and human resources if the job is to be accomplished satisfactorarily. Indeed, for the ideal circumstances it would seem that a wider team effort on the part of extended family and the community too is required.
The problem we have is that we find ourselves in a competitive market economy, where women are required by virtue of market forces to work - and this far and above is a stronger influence than any feminist agenda requiring women to in some way prove themselves as providers. These market forces have been present for a long time before feminist agendas.
The fact that women can become pregnant is fortunate for the continuation of our species, but the equally present fact that pregnancy and raising a child is a time consuming activity alongside the fact that women in today's world must work if they are to provide a home for that child, even where the father is present, is where we are going wrong.
And we make an even greater mistake to assume that the problem is that women can get pregnant and that if they do, then that is their silly fault and they deserve to be disposed of when it comes to employment - because like it or not, we are all in this together and the effects of such thinking are all around us right now. Our falling birth rates are what is driving immigration - we need immigrants because we dont have enough people because we produced a competitive market economy in which women couldnt afford to take time to produce children - and of those children that have been produced, we see a significant proportion bereft of any sort of responsibility for themselves embarking on lives of crime from an early age, which could be attributed to this whole poor state of affairs by way of the absence of their mothers from their lives, because the mothers are working because they have to.
We must understand, that being in this together, the pregnancy of women and their unique role in raising children is not an economic inconvenience, but a vital and essential part of being in this together for the long term. Thus, it is right and necessary that we provide rights to women - privileges even - for doing what is an essential job in our society. That, or learn Polish really quickly.
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