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just a question - 12/28/2007 12:45:43 PM   
jakeskajira


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Status: offline 		I read reading a thead on here and was wondering why young Dominants and submissives are being put down so much?
I guess I am just curious because as a 22 year old collared slave who's been married for 2 years to my husband (who happens to be my Master...) I just don't quite understand what is wrong with being young...

I knew I liked BDSM and sexual kink stuff at a young age..and it just got stronger as I got older...

Would a "no limit" sub be "smart" at any age? young or not? I've seen older subs say this...

(I consider myself a no limit slave "now" with my Master, but we have closely aligned beliefs and we've talked alot, we've been married for 2 years... there's alot of other factors.. and it took me along time to throw all my "limits" out the window and submit that deep...)

Im still trying to understand why people make fun of younger people, do you think they find it funny? a way to get laid? a joke? a game? -- and even if they did, is that wrong? why can't everyone be different?

Just trying to wrap my mind around this concept that age means that they shouldn't be taken seriously.

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RE: just a question - 12/28/2007 12:47:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Can you point to some specific examples?

Edited to say... Do you not think it is ridiculous if someone brand new to BDSM declares they have no limits?  How could they know?  Do you not think it is ridiculous if someone who is barely of drinking age declares they have "years of experience" and are also "no limits"?  Yes, there are a few exceptions, but I think I can say with some certainty that they are not the norm.  Therefore, the vast majority of "younger" people who make those declarations will find themselves on the receiving end of snickers (and I don't meant a candy bar).

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Just trying to wrap my mind around this concept that age means that they shouldn't be taken seriously.


It is not their AGE that means they shouldn't be taken seriously, it is their attitude and declarations that mean they shouldn't be taken seriously.

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RE: just a question - 12/28/2007 12:53:53 PM   
jakeskajira


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Status: offline 		As an example, in the "funniest thing on CM" thead... many of the people were laughing and joking about young people having profiles... at 18-21...
I understand that at 18... or even 25 you may not have as much experience in life, or the lifestyle as someone who's 50... but, that shouldn't discredit them... at 20, 5 years seems like along time, 5 years to someone who's 50 is nothing.. thats 1/10th of their life.. not 1/4th.  so I can sort of understand why people would say that, but, I still don't understand why thats "funny"..  (so to a younger person... a year.. two years.. even three years can seem like a long time to them, or a lot of experience to them...). I don't understand why its okay to put younger people down, I mean on the other side you could say that someone in their 20's can spring back easier, heals faster, can take more because they are younger, they could learn faster, they could adapt easier and aren't as stuck in their ways.. I mean age at any age has its advantages and disadvantages... I just don't quite understand why there's so much "young" people bashing. And everyone has to start somewhere... and learn.. so I just don't quite understand the whole concept... I don't see anyone sitting here putting down 50 year olds... even if they are new to the lifestyle.



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RE: just a question - 12/28/2007 12:53:58 PM   
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RE: just a question - 12/28/2007 12:57:37 PM   
jakeskajira


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Status: offline 		Age doesn't always bring wisdom... not everyone learns from their mistakes.... While I agree that more life experience should make you wiser, it is not always the case.  ---

With that said, do you think their attitude is because of their age? and if so, were you, and others not once like that at their age? Just because people are in different places in their life doesn't mean they shouldn't be given a chance or taken seriously... or sometimes a little advice from a wiser person can make a difference...

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RE: just a question - 12/28/2007 1:00:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jakeskajira

As an example, in the "funniest thing on CM" thead... many of the people were laughing and joking about young people having profiles... at 18-21...
I understand that at 18... or even 25 you may not have as much experience in life, or the lifestyle as someone who's 50... but, that shouldn't discredit them... at 20, 5 years seems like along time, 5 years to someone who's 50 is nothing.. thats 1/10th of their life.. not 1/4th.  so I can sort of understand why people would say that, but, I still don't understand why thats "funny"..  (so to a younger person... a year.. two years.. even three years can seem like a long time to them, or a lot of experience to them...). I don't understand why its okay to put younger people down, I mean on the other side you could say that someone in their 20's can spring back easier, heals faster, can take more because they are younger, they could learn faster, they could adapt easier and aren't as stuck in their ways.. I mean age at any age has its advantages and disadvantages... I just don't quite understand why there's so much "young" people bashing. And everyone has to start somewhere... and learn.. so I just don't quite understand the whole concept... I don't see anyone sitting here putting down 50 year olds... even if they are new to the lifestyle.




You just did put down 50 year olds or people with more experience. So you mean to tell me that mature people are less adaptable??? Only the inexperienced would say that. Most are way more adaptable and patient as they get older. For istance, I am going to be patient with you and not tell you off. I cant speak for others you may be flaming.

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RE: just a question - 12/28/2007 1:03:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jakeskajira
With that said, do you think their attitude is because of their age? and if so, were you, and others not once like that at their age?


I think a lot of us with a bit more experience know exactly what we were like when we were young...and we know that we really didn't have much of a clue about anything.

That isn't to say that youth doesn't have it's benefits.  Youthful exuberance can cover for a lot of missing wisdom!  It is just that the young think they know everything and the old know they don't...

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RE: just a question - 12/28/2007 1:06:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jakeskajira

With that said, do you think their attitude is because of their age? and if so, were you, and others not once like that at their age? Just because people are in different places in their life doesn't mean they shouldn't be given a chance or taken seriously... or sometimes a little advice from a wiser person can make a difference...



Given a chance at WHAT??  When I was 20 I didn't go around trying to get people twice my age to take me seriously.  And I surely didn't post in a forum demanding to know why I wasn't taken seriously as a Dominant (several recent threads), pitching a stomping little fit.

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RE: just a question - 12/28/2007 1:07:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		but that is only one person most people once they pass 30 lose a lot of things. patients is a major one. It has been proven that older people bounce back slower learn slower. then there is that chip that a load of them have most people on here at 40 just walked into the life so know even less than someone at 20 whos been working it for 5 years.  but thats just what ive seen an if yall dont like it well blow me

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RE: just a question - 12/28/2007 1:07:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		I apologize if it came off as bashing, that was not my intent, but stastically, the "older" you are, the harder it is to change habits, or change in general when you get set in your ways.  (statstically... it gets harder to "change" as you age, at least thats what I was always taught in my psych classes. -- habits are easier to change when you are younger, and the longer you do them, the harder it gets to break them. -- this is what I meant by adapt. I will try to be mores specific in the future to prevent any miscommunication!)

A lot of this is opinion as well, my Master is quite a bit older then me, and he does have a lot of patience, more so then someone younger might, but thats not set in stone either, but everyone has to LEARN.... you don't stop learning just because you turn 50.. you don't stop learning... just because your 90.  I think of everyone of "every" age has something to offer... that was my point. I will try and clarify myself better in the future.

Regards,
slave emma



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RE: just a question - 12/28/2007 1:10:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CalifChick
And I surely didn't post in a forum demanding to know why I wasn't taken seriously as a Dominant (several recent threads), pitching a stomping little fit.


Was the internet around then? 

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RE: just a question - 12/28/2007 1:14:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		So many people in this life seem to fancy themselves some sort of experts.  I have heard long-winded blowhards pontificating on all their little BDSM theories.  Young dommes make them realize that this is not rocket science and that they do not hold some hare earned wisdom.  Brings them down a peg or two, so they lash out a little.

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RE: just a question - 12/28/2007 1:15:01 PM   
jakeskajira


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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

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ORIGINAL: jakeskajira

With that said, do you think their attitude is because of their age? and if so, were you, and others not once like that at their age? Just because people are in different places in their life doesn't mean they shouldn't be given a chance or taken seriously... or sometimes a little advice from a wiser person can make a difference...



Given a chance at WHAT??  When I was 20 I didn't go around trying to get people twice my age to take me seriously.  And I surely didn't post in a forum demanding to know why I wasn't taken seriously as a Dominant (several recent threads), pitching a stomping little fit.

Cali



and I hadn't read those threads, but I can understand that throwing a "Stomping" fit obviously would be a momentary lapse of judgement... but older people have stomping fits too,  i've seen elderly throw fits... I don't know if fit throwing is age specific... it might be situational... *chuckles*

I don't know, I can see your point, but I just wanted to point out that lumping every young person into the same boat isn't fair.. (I know, I know life isn't fair, but your open minded right? well, you'd have to be to some extent, you live a fairly unsocially acceptable lifestyle.)

I do get what your saying, and I respect your opionion, I just wanted to clarify I guess why there was so many put downs about age.. but if there's alot of fit throwing on the board, that would explain why people are so hostile about it right now...

Thank you for answering my question.

with respect,
slave emma

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RE: just a question - 12/28/2007 1:21:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Are you exactly the same person you were five years ago? Could the person you were five years ago understand the different stresses and life experiences that you have today? Ten years ago?

As you can see, at your age a few years brings about huge changes. So when someone who ten years ago was playing with Barbies now announces that they know everything, we do laugh because we remember how things have changed enormously in that short period of time.

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RE: just a question - 12/28/2007 1:23:56 PM   
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but that is only one person most people once they pass 30 lose a lot of things. patients is a major one. It has been proven that older people bounce back slower learn slower. then there is that chip that a load of them have most people on here at 40 just walked into the life so know even less than someone at 20 whos been working it for 5 years.  but thats just what ive seen an if yall dont like it well blow me


Way to go Mr. Mature.
Us oldtimers snicker and nod and say....Thanks for proving our point.
Perhaps when you grow up you will develop some class but time will tell. Likely you will be redfaced by that comment and embarrassed in 20 years from now.

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RE: just a question - 12/28/2007 1:27:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterTool

but that is only one person most people once they pass 30 lose a lot of things. patients is a major one. It has been proven that older people bounce back slower learn slower. then there is that chip that a load of them have most people on here at 40 just walked into the life so know even less than someone at 20 whos been working it for 5 years.  but thats just what ive seen an if yall dont like it well blow me


Spelling, apparently, is one of those things we learn as we get older.


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RE: just a question - 12/28/2007 1:28:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterTool
but that is only one person most people once they pass 30 lose a lot of things. patients is a major one. It has been proven that older people bounce back slower learn slower. then there is that chip that a load of them have most people on here at 40 just walked into the life so know even less than someone at 20 whos been working it for 5 years.  but thats just what ive seen an if yall dont like it well blow me


Sources would be nice as I know there was a recent study that proved that although mental capacity writhers as people get older that does not happen in people that keep their minds active.  

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RE: just a question - 12/28/2007 1:28:24 PM   
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Are you exactly the same person you were five years ago? Could the person you were five years ago understand the different stresses and life experiences that you have today? Ten years ago?

As you can see, at your age a few years brings about huge changes. So when someone who ten years ago was playing with Barbies now announces that they know everything, we do laugh because we remember how things have changed enormously in that short period of time.


5 years ago yes, 10 years ago no, but I wasn't playing with barbies 10 years ago, I was shooting people in video games.. does blowing barbies UP count? *giggles*

I understand that people do come off as know it alls, but even older people act like they know it all, they are older and wiser, and obviously know more then me.. right?  And, I appreciate their wisdom, their feedback and hearing about their life experiences, I can choose to learn from other people's mistakes instead of deliberately making the same ones I could avoid just by learning from others or asking...

I do agree that many young people act like they "know it all"... but so do older people, the only difference in that is many older people will admit they act that way while the younger generation is still in denial --

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RE: just a question - 12/28/2007 1:31:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jakeskajira

I apologize if it came off as bashing, that was not my intent, but stastically, the "older" you are, the harder it is to change habits, or change in general when you get set in your ways.  (statstically... it gets harder to "change" as you age, at least thats what I was always taught in my psych classes. -- habits are easier to change when you are younger, and the longer you do them, the harder it gets to break them. -- this is what I meant by adapt. I will try to be mores specific in the future to prevent any miscommunication!)

A lot of this is opinion as well, my Master is quite a bit older then me, and he does have a lot of patience, more so then someone younger might, but thats not set in stone either, but everyone has to LEARN.... you don't stop learning just because you turn 50.. you don't stop learning... just because your 90.  I think of everyone of "every" age has something to offer... that was my point. I will try and clarify myself better in the future.

Regards,
slave emma





you are a nice and sincere girl. I know you dont mean to come off that way and really believe these things. It is true that physically we may not bounce back. I however am in full sexual bloom and way freaker than I ever was at 22. You stop caring what others think of you when mature. Also our ripe sexiness and passion and experience is not only adored by men our own age and older but the younger men will be clammering for you too.
I am all that and a bag of chips.
You have soooo much to look forward to.

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RE: just a question - 12/28/2007 1:34:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		I do not think I have ever been disrespectful to someone on account of their age, in fact some of the posters I like the most here are in their early to mid 20s. I like watching them grow, and have seen such in their posts... and "growth" should not be an age dependent thing... if I am not growing, I am dying.

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