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RE: Betrayed by Master - 12/30/2007 11:14:50 PM

julietsierra

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ORIGINAL: creatrix

i have hope that i will find it easy to trust/serve another Dom. Just as all men are different, all Doms are different... (aren't they?) This relationship was my first experience serving a Master, so, perhaps that is why i am so glum right now... i really loved serving him... (*gotta stop that remenising* sp?)

i have all of my emails. problem is that I do not have a printer and I really do not want to go to the *library* and print these out. Cyber cafes charge a LOT to print and access, at least in the Detroit area... i will do what i can. at any rate, the headers on the email are dated and nobody can change that.

i am just sick to my stomach over the WHOLE thing. sick...
thanks to all for your input, i appreciate it.

creatrix

Then again, there are those out here who just might print these things out for you. Contact me privately.

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RE: Betrayed by Master - 12/31/2007 4:53:55 AM

ksub4u

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Creatrix, I'm so sorry you're going through this painful time. And for your words to be used without your permission is a horrible invasion.

On the practical side, I am wondering how exactly he is 'publishing' your work. Is it an online publisher? Self-publishing? I'm going to PM you on the other side - if you'd like you can tell me a bit more about the situation and I can see if I can guide you a bit in the pub world. (I have been e-pubbed and was an editor for an e-pub).

*Edited for repeating myself - no coffee yet!

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RE: Betrayed by Master - 12/31/2007 5:25:59 AM

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Well, before anything else is said, I agree, the guy is a creep.

As far as him profiting from your work while he owned you.....if you were truly in a slave relationship at the time, and especially if these writings were things you wrote at his direction, that would not have been written otherwise, then it might be argued that the ownership and profits from them do belong to them. That is why you have to be so very careful before entering a slave relationship. However, by no means does he have the right to sign himself as author. You would be the author, no matter who gets any profit from it. If profit is lost, you can seek legal recourse, and it would be interesting to see how the question of ownership of works produced while in an agreement to be slave, would play out in a court of law. The law does not recognize slavery, but it does recognize written and verbal contracts as far as work/property/money goes.

In future, you should probably choose to be submissive, rather than slave, so that you can avoid any further problems like this. You could specifically spell out in a contract what can be expected of you, and what rights you reserve to yourself.

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RE: Betrayed by Master - 12/31/2007 5:30:44 AM

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I'm very sorry you were treated that way.

On the plus side, you'll never walk into such a situation ever again!!!

I don't think it's worthwhile to follow a lawsuit about the writing, unless you're feeling you really need to. It will keep you thinking about this and about him far longer than you'd otherwise forget about it and move on. That's just my opinion.

Obviously no, doms and masters do not behave this way, otherwise they'd all be dead by now from being bitch-slapped and set upon.

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RE: Betrayed by Master - 12/31/2007 7:05:46 AM

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I also write erotica, and other things....and right now I am so angry for you that I can't see straight.

Someone once used alot of my advise and writtings for a web-site without giving me credit, and I couldn't prove anything, so...

Please, take the advise given here, get someone to print these for you, and mail them to you. Create a paper trail that will prove your ownership. Do it now. And, if he tries to publish...nail him to the wall...slowly, painfully. Do not use power tools, make it last...

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RE: Betrayed by Master - 12/31/2007 7:29:51 AM

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Anyone who writes with an eye to publication should protect their materials, including any research data, notes, outlines, etc. All of the materials for my Master's thesis were stolen, and later published almost verbatim in a well-recognized journal, including my annotated bibliography; I consulted an attorney, and even though my advisor had been privy to these materials, and could testify on my behalf, in the final analysis we could not prove our case to a court's satisfaction.

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RE: Betrayed by Master - 12/31/2007 7:50:43 AM

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I call bs on the ones who say that a Master owns everything a slave has. Sorry, but if I write something, it comes from my heart. It represents my blood, sweat and tears and not Master's. The people who say it is ok to plagarize someone just because that person is serving you tend to be the same people who say a slave should sign over his/her home and bank accounts. Do so if you want to, but do so at your own peril.
Submission shouldn't equal stupid.
(This is not meant to be an implication that the op WAS dumb. I have sent my writings to many people especially those I have served, and I trusted every one of them not to steal my work. Luckilly for me, they lived up to my trust in them.)

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RE: Betrayed by Master - 12/31/2007 7:53:32 AM

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Don't confuse slavery with submission. It is not my style either, but I understand that some have that arrangement.

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RE: Betrayed by Master - 12/31/2007 8:28:03 AM

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Assuming this OP is true, what this guy did has nothing to do with slavery, submission, Ms, Ds, or anything remotely resembling it.

What he did was underhanded. He didn't say "look slave, write for me, because I want to publish it and benefit from your work". He tricked her into writing for him, became coy when she questioned why she wasn't allowed to publish her work, then he told her not to question him about it at all, and then he took her work and had it published under his own name..Lame very very lame.

He pre-meditated an entire scheme of dishonesty and exploitation. This doesn't fall under typical "Master slave" expectations or the "whats mine is his" premise. Dishonesty and deception is not an acceptable basis on which to found any type of relationship, nevermind an Ms relationship. The guy sounds like a cad to me.

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