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RiotGirl -> RE: Baaaaaaaaad, Bad Bad (8/26/2005 7:07:34 AM)

Yup, i'm staying out of it because i have refused to read the flame war, if thats what it is. What i have to say, is most likely not what others want to hear. Which is quite frankly, why i havent said it. What do you do when, you've two friends and they're both argueing? Over something inane? Do you look at them and say "Grow up?" Do you just ignore them until they're done bickering? Its what i usually do. Because when you jump in, ppl ALWAYS take it personal and think you are chosing sides. No one can be logical. (obviously i'm jumping in now)
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The 'net version of this just happened to me. *sigh*

pinkpleasures


Pink, i dont agree with that statement. Yes its possible, as a year and a half ago, i went through something similiar with a Dom i had met who i decided was abit crazy. Him emailing me to all gods, knowing where i lived.. yada yada. Scared the living hell out of me. Writing that i realise, it wasnt purely net. So again, i dont think its possible. Its very simple to get rid of ppl on the net. Which is why i like it. No, i dont think you had to explain to a 4 year old that the cops maybe showing up at your house and WHY. No i dont think you went to the neighbors and with out TELLING the neighbors why, asked if your kid could play there, so IF things hit the fan, atleast your kid wasnt THERE. No and i dont think it ran through your mind, how you'd be explaining the aftermath. And no, i dont think you told some one you've known for 3 years, point blankly that you'd kill them if they continued. Honestly, i dont think its the same and though i know you are emotionally excitable, i dont think you felt the same. As for what brightspot said. i agree. But i ignored it out of friendship with you.

As for what emerald said. Maybe she wasnt completely on about "you cyber ppl" Maybe you felt that as a flame. But look realisitically. Honestly now girl. Have you been in BDSM off the net? If you have, simply saying so suffices. Sure maybe Emerald shouldnt of called you "you cyber ppl" but its what it looks like. Change the perception if you dont like it. i dont think it was an insult as you took it. She wasnt stating it as an insult, but as a fact. She wasnt trying to put you down.

What tempest first post was saying, again was that they dont think you've any real life experience.

See Pink, that ALL this little war has been about. People saying that what you went through on the net, is not like real life. Did you CHANGE that perception? Did you even touch on that at all? Did you say anything to make things different? No.

Pink, i think your a good person, with ALOT of excitability. It is getting old. You continuelly jump into threads and miss read whats going on. You're jumping. There's alot of drama going on when you post. With alot of things i've read, there has been drama induced by you. i have quite honestly stopped reading what you write. Why? Cos you keep jumping to conclusions and making everything "bad" You're insulting ppl and yelling at ppl. Bickering with them and what not. Every where you go, there is drama. Some one says ONE thing you dont like.. and it takes over the whole thread. Did you NOT introduce yourself to me, through DRAMA? Waking up on morning, with GOD knows what going on in my email box? Having to actually sit here and figure out what in the world is going on. No, it wasnt the nicest thing to think about in the morning. Slander? Lawyers? i was like whoaaaaaaaaa. Hold on cowboy.

Pink, insofar as i can see, you are adding nothing but drama to the boards and ppl are getting tired of it. Did you not see my post to you that said "calm down and relax"? Another post saying "dont worry about what they say here" i was trying to get a POINT across to you. There is more serious things to life then this board. This board is not something to get yourself all bent out of shape over. GOD just CLICK THE X. Course, funnily, that wouldnt be any fun. You throw everything way out of proportion.

It leaves a perception you prolly do not want others to have. Cos you arent posting about your LIFE getting bent out of shape, you are getting bent out of shape over what others say. They havent been mistreating me, as you seem to think. That guy "thelight" that you bombared in my communication thread, he was ONLY trying to help. He wasnt doing anything wrong, yet you took it out of proportion and started jumping up and down.

like i SAID, CALM DOWN. You are getting repetive. Must i pull up the majority of your threads, walk you through each of them and show you what i am talking about? You havent been flamed, i havent been flamed. No one is insulting you or putting you down.

Now you might think, with this post i do not like you or i am not your friend. But i tell my friends a whole grand of scheme of things. i've told my friends in a round about way, they were bad parents. i dont offer this kind of advice, when i see ppl doing something wrong, unless i am asked for it. Because its not my place to tell them whats right and wrong. But you asked. i think you are wrong, point blank. And wrong the majority of times. Yes, i'm sure thats hard to hear, and i'm sure you'll throw a fit. But try looking at what i am saying. Heck, go through your old posts and re read through them. i think you are a sincere, with good intentions lady. i've spoke to you. If i didnt think so, i'd of just told you to shut the hell up, and that nobody cared. Either that or i'd of ignored you completely. Out of being friends with you, i have stayed out of your drama and ignored it. But you have brought me into it twice now, looking for back up. i personally like to stick by right and wrong. And honestly, i dont know you to back you up when you're wrong.

So i'm not looking for drama, and i'm not looking for all these messes. i'm telling you what i percieve because you asked and i am friends with you to tell you. Its not personal, its not an insult. Its a perception on the behavior you exhibit. People are getting tired of it. The Mods are deleting your posts, warning you. Its not a good sign. Shape up sweetie. This board aint no thing. And granted i've met ppl off this board, talk to many of them in IMs, it still is no thing. Yet i respect and like alot of ppl here, its still aint no thing. If everyone on the forums told me they DIDNT like me, and they wished me to leave, yeah i'd be a bit bummed out, but it aint no thing. Because quite frankly, this isnt my life.

AND for GODS sake, i'm sick of all the abuse talk. So seriously f*ing sick of it. Its not something, those who have been through it, want to be constantly reminded about. Yeah i'm alittle late saying so, but i figured if i'm clearing the air.. i might as well clear up that one. i dont like thinking about it, re living it, talking about it, or what not. Abuse has NO place in a BDSM forum. This is ABOUT BDSM not abuse.

You asked, i delivered. i tried to ignore, you wanted. Careful what you ask for. Now try and read my words with out the emotions going crazy. OR read it, let your emotions fly, and come back sit down and say something which doesnt completely blow everything out of porportion. Just telling you like i see it.







RiotGirl -> RE: Baaaaaaaaad, Bad Bad (8/26/2005 7:09:07 AM)

And another thing. i havent been flamed. Like i said, you see things that arent there. Continuously and Please, get rid of the Pink. It drives me bonkers. This is why i rarely open my mouth about what i think. People cant handle it.

show me you can




imtempting -> RE: Baaaaaaaaad, Bad Bad (8/26/2005 7:19:48 AM)

Bad to hear what happened. I hope things work out.

I dont think what Pink said in this thread was right but I dont think people needed to go on about her as much as they did. There is a block button and you can simply choose not too reply.

Riot that is sorta flaming and sorta not.

Read what I said about a week ago to see flaming and please drop it against Pink in the thread its about Riot Girl noone else.

If you want to flame then flame me but be prepared to want to brake you keyboard at my replies....





pinkpleasures -> RE: Baaaaaaaaad, Bad Bad (8/26/2005 8:22:39 AM)

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pinkpleasures -> RE: Baaaaaaaaad, Bad Bad (8/26/2005 8:46:29 AM)

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pinkpleasures -> RE: Baaaaaaaaad, Bad Bad (8/26/2005 8:59:54 AM)

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See Pink, that ALL this little war has been about. People saying that what you went through on the net, is not like real life. Did you CHANGE that perception? Did you even touch on that at all? Did you say anything to make things different? No.

RiotGirl


It seems painfully obvious that the flaming has nothing to do with my personal life, but rather, with the fact that my opinions are different than some other members, and that evidentially drives them to flame. i see no reason why i should have to describe my personal life to attain A/anyone's respect. E/everyone here deserves respect, unless/until they do something beyond the pale...and then that's a problem for the Mods. i am NOT turning myself into fodder for gossip by revealing my personal life. If that means certain people will continue insulting me, i am sure the Mods will deal with it.

pinkpleasures




dommemagnet -> RE: Baaaaaaaaad, Bad Bad (8/26/2005 9:06:48 AM)

Can anyone say "hijacked thread"? Sure, I thought you could. Now for more popcorn with fastlane. It's a wonderful day in the neighborhood.




EmeraldSlave2 -> RE: Baaaaaaaaad, Bad Bad (8/26/2005 9:11:01 AM)

In this particular thread, I said that it was wrong of you to compare your cyber experiences to Riots real life issues.

You barked back at me then, when other people agreed with me, you called them gullible.

Who is the one getting worked up over differing opinions?





ModeratorSeven -> RE: Baaaaaaaaad, Bad Bad (8/26/2005 9:44:20 AM)

This is a gentle reminder to all to lower your flames. Riotgirl obviously went through a traumatic experience and came here for support. She does not need this event highjacked by someone else's experience or overshadowed by a flame war. Those who persist on getting off topic will be put on moderation.

Mod7




anopheles -> RE: Baaaaaaaaad, Bad Bad (8/26/2005 1:30:57 PM)

Ok, so perhaps I can respond with something relevant.

RiotGirl, it WAS your thread, so...

How are YOU doing now?




subcheryl -> RE: Baaaaaaaaad, Bad Bad (8/26/2005 5:06:02 PM)

Riot Girl, isn't that just emotionally draining? To go thru an experience like that with the fear of losing your child, the hurt, the anger, the bewilderment, and am sure many more emotions I just couldn't put a finger on. I am so happy that you had support with your Dom to get thru this, I went thru just about the same thing but it was my late husbands brother who did it to us, social services came out and did their thing, but remember vividly the pain and all, I was doing the best I could without very little support from the husband at the time. But am happy for the great results, and wish you the best in the future.




ModeratorOne -> RE: Baaaaaaaaad, Bad Bad (8/27/2005 5:33:01 AM)

Please drop the flaming. Next person who flames anyone else for whatever reason on this thread will be placed on forum moderation. Please read the original post and try to limit your discussion to that topic.

We are all adults here, please conduct yourselves as such.

Thank you,

ModOne




krys -> RE: Baaaaaaaaad, Bad Bad (8/27/2005 6:44:26 AM)

What a frightening, but very cautionary, tale. I have gone through some experiences with my ex that make me an extremely untrusting person today. In large part out of fear of things just like what happened to you. But if it is any consolation whatsoever, I will remember your story and try to protect myself a little bit more, hopefully without ever experiencing something like that myself, and for that I am profoundly grateful.




pinkpleasures -> RE: Baaaaaaaaad, Bad Bad (8/27/2005 7:23:26 AM)

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pinkpleasures -> RE: Baaaaaaaaad, Bad Bad (8/27/2005 7:41:18 AM)

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I hate the way people can be.

I try to think the best of people, but they keep proving me wrong.

We're still trying to fly under the radar of unfounded rape accusations by someone we were with a while ago.

(Messed around, hung out, were friends. She was a little too interested in the partner, and didn't respect I was his primary relationship. I todl her it made me uncomfortable. She didn't back off. We ended contact. We hear three months later she's told everyone he raped her and "just barely" convinced her dad not to come kill him.)

Anyway. I try to have faith in people, but when individuals who are supposed to be your friends fuck you....

Riot, I'm sorry your friend wasn't. I think you did a good job dealing.

perversangelic


perversangelic, if i can be of any assistance, please email me.

pinkpleasures




pinkpleasures -> RE: Baaaaaaaaad, Bad Bad (8/27/2005 7:44:12 AM)

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Surely, pink, you don't think the two experiences are equally traumatic, do you???

Riot Girl, it's wonderful you had a good conclusion from all of this...

kc692


i think nothing is as traumatic as a threat to your child. i am truely amazed at how well Riot Girl handled the situation.

pinkpleasures




pinkpleasures -> RE: Baaaaaaaaad, Bad Bad (8/27/2005 7:59:04 AM)

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FelinePersuasion -> RE: Baaaaaaaaad, Bad Bad (8/27/2005 11:03:20 PM)

People can and have lost their kids over bdsm. It's a unpleasent little bit of reality to think about, but it happens. People have lost their whole lives over someone uncouth blabbing about the others involvments. It really shouldn't matter one iota to your job or to any one else who you do why you do it or when you do it. But somehow it does. Somehow work places can care more about someone's personal life ethics than if their a good worker and do their job.


The friend thing going all christian is just one more reason I'm not into deep meaningfull friendships with non kink and or religious people. I'm kinky, I'm perverse I don't want someone who I'd have to hide all that I am from, because the fear they might freak, or that none kinky people just are not cool with the level of "kink" in my life.




tedibare -> RE: Baaaaaaaaad, Bad Bad (8/28/2005 10:09:04 AM)

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I have already given one warning to drop the flame wars. So has ModOne. Anyone caught flaming anyone on this thread and/or not sticking to the OP will be placed on moderation, newcomers included.

Mod7




tedibare -> RE: Baaaaaaaaad, Bad Bad (8/28/2005 10:15:46 AM)


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ORIGINAL: fastlane

Meow....I'll be right back....going to go grab another bucket of popcorn and a coke!


lol fastlane do you practice at bein funny or does it just come naturally? [:D]

tedi




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